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I'm pretty sure VIZ will get the rights to Reborn and not Funimation for a few reasons:

1) While Reborn is somewhat popular in the US I don't picture Funimation making much of a profit off of licensing it

2) VIZ already owns rights to the manga so them attempting to get the anime can't be too far down the line.

3) Funimation had the chance to license it. When the started taking it off the internet it would made sense to license it then but they didn't, meaning they didn't have much of an interest in it.

If VIZ gets the dub it will come out either in spring or winter.
Posted 1/18/09
You make good points, but your prediction of the release date is WAAY off. First off, they haven't even put a contract through, licensing anime is a much longer process than one of manga. As first, a consensus of both parties must agree on the licensing terms, which varies, but the routine process is somewhere around three or so months. Afterward, voice dubbers must be found, which usually takes from either 4-5 months, then the actual dubbing takes place, and they, most of the time, dub multiple episodes at a time, so that they can keep up a weekly release of the series, also this is done to free up time for other projects, which also take a good while. The latest a dub would be coming, IF it's coming that is, would be somewhere around early or mid 2010.
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You make good points, but your prediction of the release date is WAAY off. First off, they haven't even put a contract through, licensing anime is a much longer process than one of manga. As first, a consensus of both parties must agree on the licensing terms, which varies, but the routine process is somewhere around three or so months. Afterward, voice dubbers must be found, which usually takes from either 4-5 months, then the actual dubbing takes place, and they, most of the time, dub multiple episodes at a time, so that they can keep up a weekly release of the series, also this is done to free up time for other projects, which also take a good while. The latest a dub would be coming, IF it's coming that is, would be somewhere around early or mid 2010.


I doubt it would come that late, VIZ usually doesn't take anywhere near as long as Funimation or Bandai...
Posted 1/18/09 , edited 1/18/09

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Tsutoki wrote:

You make good points, but your prediction of the release date is WAAY off. First off, they haven't even put a contract through, licensing anime is a much longer process than one of manga. As first, a consensus of both parties must agree on the licensing terms, which varies, but the routine process is somewhere around three or so months. Afterward, voice dubbers must be found, which usually takes from either 4-5 months, then the actual dubbing takes place, and they, most of the time, dub multiple episodes at a time, so that they can keep up a weekly release of the series, also this is done to free up time for other projects, which also take a good while. The latest a dub would be coming, IF it's coming that is, would be somewhere around early or mid 2010.


I doubt it would come that late, VIZ usually doesn't take anywhere near as long as Funimation or Bandai...


I'm not talking about VIZ, I'm talking about the entire general licensing process. You say that as if VIZ has already licensed it, when in reality it's probably fighting other large companies for the rights. It's not as if VIZ can just say "WE HAS THE MANGAZ, SO DA ANIME BELONGZ TO UZZZZZZZZZZ", that's just ignorance. Also, VIZ does take a long time, Funimation actually releases much quicker, and Bandai, well Bandai's just slow in comparison to almost any company, but they have decent releases. Oh crap, episode 116 just got released on torrent, off to watch it.
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Tsutoki wrote:

You make good points, but your prediction of the release date is WAAY off. First off, they haven't even put a contract through, licensing anime is a much longer process than one of manga. As first, a consensus of both parties must agree on the licensing terms, which varies, but the routine process is somewhere around three or so months. Afterward, voice dubbers must be found, which usually takes from either 4-5 months, then the actual dubbing takes place, and they, most of the time, dub multiple episodes at a time, so that they can keep up a weekly release of the series, also this is done to free up time for other projects, which also take a good while. The latest a dub would be coming, IF it's coming that is, would be somewhere around early or mid 2010.


I doubt it would come that late, VIZ usually doesn't take anywhere near as long as Funimation or Bandai...


I'm not talking about VIZ, I'm talking about the entire general licensing process. You say that as if VIZ has already licensed it, when in reality it's probably fighting other large companies for the rights. It's not as if VIZ can just say "WE HAS THE MANGAZ, SO DA ANIME BELONGZ TO UZZZZZZZZZZ", that's just ignorance. Also, VIZ does take a long time, Funimation actually releases much quicker, and Bandai, well Bandai's just slow in comparison to almost any company, but they have decent releases. Oh crap, episode 116 just got released on torrent, off to watch it.


Wonder which companies are after it. Not to disagree with you but I couldn't really picture it working for any company other than VIZ or Funimation...

Posted 1/18/09

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Tsutoki wrote:


Ninjahare wrote:


Tsutoki wrote:

You make good points, but your prediction of the release date is WAAY off. First off, they haven't even put a contract through, licensing anime is a much longer process than one of manga. As first, a consensus of both parties must agree on the licensing terms, which varies, but the routine process is somewhere around three or so months. Afterward, voice dubbers must be found, which usually takes from either 4-5 months, then the actual dubbing takes place, and they, most of the time, dub multiple episodes at a time, so that they can keep up a weekly release of the series, also this is done to free up time for other projects, which also take a good while. The latest a dub would be coming, IF it's coming that is, would be somewhere around early or mid 2010.


I doubt it would come that late, VIZ usually doesn't take anywhere near as long as Funimation or Bandai...


I'm not talking about VIZ, I'm talking about the entire general licensing process. You say that as if VIZ has already licensed it, when in reality it's probably fighting other large companies for the rights. It's not as if VIZ can just say "WE HAS THE MANGAZ, SO DA ANIME BELONGZ TO UZZZZZZZZZZ", that's just ignorance. Also, VIZ does take a long time, Funimation actually releases much quicker, and Bandai, well Bandai's just slow in comparison to almost any company, but they have decent releases. Oh crap, episode 116 just got released on torrent, off to watch it.


Wonder which companies are after it. Not to disagree with you but I couldn't really picture it working for any company other than VIZ or Funimation...



A good number actually, VIZ and Funimation are probably the two that have the best chance of it, but others want a piece of the action. Though, it's not who's going to get it that delays the process, it's how many people want it, as long as KHR is still on the table, licensers will be pressuring d-rights, and having to go through offers slows down its licensing greatly.
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KHR Shouldn't be dubbed in the first place cause its about japanese, people in japan, speaking japanese, and the only other exception is italian. maybe since adult swim shows little intrest in showing anime it goes right back to theory but thats just the argument for americans with tvs, so the only other option for getting it on american tv would be (oh i dread) 4kids, but i dout it. Even so getting voice actors alone will be a hassle and it usually doesn't matter whether which licensers get it as long as it dubbed. though i regret stating what i think i just dout that it will ever get dubbed and if its already in process then a bunch of people might get angry at this cause a majority of people prefer japanese versions of anime rather than the english dubb.
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anybody but viz should do the anime. I would cry if it was them
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i would cry too. dubbing english really sucks, i had heard before, some speaks with no emotion and absolutely corrupts the anime and makes me off the tv with disgust. Other than that, they cut some parts too, to make the anime family-friendly. and other than japanese voiced, other languages simply don't match japanese animation, spoken with wrong tone of voice, going happy/excited/angry in wrong parts. >-<
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i would cry too. dubbing english really sucks, i had heard before, some speaks with no emotion and absolutely corrupts the anime and makes me off the tv with disgust. Other than that, they cut some parts too, to make the anime family-friendly. and other than japanese voiced, other languages simply don't match japanese animation, spoken with wrong tone of voice, going happy/excited/angry in wrong parts. >-<


Agreed.Hasn't english dubbing one of the worst activities among many America anime dubbing productions in the world?Basically,non-american anime fan hates the english dub.Unless if they watched the english dub of a anime first,they might change their mind.Whatever you see first,is probably what you prefer.
And actually,Americans make Japanese Anime just for 'Little Children'.They think the watchers are 3 year olds,hence the cutting of scenes and horrible dubbing.Even the Openings and endings too.They screw them up with lots of random scenes of the openings and endings with some parts in the show,so TA-DA!The magical mixed up dumb OP of terror.Examples are the english dubbing of almost every anime,with one known as PPGZ.I would cry if they do something to our KHR OPs and EDs.
Posted 1/30/09

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i would cry too. dubbing english really sucks, i had heard before, some speaks with no emotion and absolutely corrupts the anime and makes me off the tv with disgust. Other than that, they cut some parts too, to make the anime family-friendly. and other than japanese voiced, other languages simply don't match japanese animation, spoken with wrong tone of voice, going happy/excited/angry in wrong parts. >-<


Agreed.Hasn't english dubbing one of the worst activities among many America anime dubbing productions in the world?Basically,non-american anime fan hates the english dub.Unless if they watched the english dub of a anime first,they might change their mind.Whatever you see first,is probably what you prefer.
And actually,Americans make Japanese Anime just for 'Little Children'.They think the watchers are 3 year olds,hence the cutting of scenes and horrible dubbing.Even the Openings and endings too.They screw them up with lots of random scenes of the openings and endings with some parts in the show,so TA-DA!The magical mixed up dumb OP of terror.Examples are the english dubbing of almost every anime,with one known as PPGZ.I would cry if they do something to our KHR OPs and EDs.


I agree actually, my very first anime was Doraemon when I was around four years old and I was with my grandparents in Hokkaido. When I first saw a dub and compared it to what I watched in Japan, I was surprised. BUT I will give it this, most anime watchers, well those who watch subs, probably got into anime when they watched a dub, so I will contribute the large amount of American anime viewers because of dubs. Now, even though I really think poorly of CR, I do actually like that it streams subbed episodes, though I'm still all for downloading.
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Tsutoki wrote:


LiSiaoGirl wrote:


theGirlx wrote:

i would cry too. dubbing english really sucks, i had heard before, some speaks with no emotion and absolutely corrupts the anime and makes me off the tv with disgust. Other than that, they cut some parts too, to make the anime family-friendly. and other than japanese voiced, other languages simply don't match japanese animation, spoken with wrong tone of voice, going happy/excited/angry in wrong parts. >-<


Agreed.Hasn't english dubbing one of the worst activities among many America anime dubbing productions in the world?Basically,non-american anime fan hates the english dub.Unless if they watched the english dub of a anime first,they might change their mind.Whatever you see first,is probably what you prefer.
And actually,Americans make Japanese Anime just for 'Little Children'.They think the watchers are 3 year olds,hence the cutting of scenes and horrible dubbing.Even the Openings and endings too.They screw them up with lots of random scenes of the openings and endings with some parts in the show,so TA-DA!The magical mixed up dumb OP of terror.Examples are the english dubbing of almost every anime,with one known as PPGZ.I would cry if they do something to our KHR OPs and EDs.


I agree actually, my very first anime was Doraemon when I was around four years old and I was with my grandparents in Hokkaido. When I first saw a dub and compared it to what I watched in Japan, I was surprised. BUT I will give it this, most anime watchers, well those who watch subs, probably got into anime when they watched a dub, so I will contribute the large amount of American anime viewers because of dubs. Now, even though I really think poorly of CR, I do actually like that it streams subbed episodes, though I'm still all for downloading.


Well, i finally understood why the cutting of scenes. Anime isn't cartoon, and it seemed to me that the America anime peeps are looking down on Japanese animation. Fairly well, almost everyone know the difference between Anime and Cartoons. And yeah, if they did SOMETHING to KHR, i probably go to their house and throw them into the sea (nah, i am kidding)
my first anime was also Doraemon, but i watched it in Chinese, perhaps because i watched dubbed first, i find it nicer. But the dubbers speaks with feelings, not those exaggarated kind, going low and high pitch in wrong parts. Then again, if anyone subscribed to cartoon net works, there is naruto being broadcasted. I watched a little bit of it, and i was like, 'oh my god, is this really naruto?' and the anime is totally being destroyed, the way of their pronouncement of naruto, they say it in, Na- RU (abit kind of high at the RU) -to
and my friend ended up laughing like crazy after just seeing the previews.

But CR is quite a nice site, at least the owner went to fight for the rights and allowed us once again to watch subbed episodes instead of being licensed.
Posted 1/30/09

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Tsutoki wrote:


LiSiaoGirl wrote:


theGirlx wrote:

i would cry too. dubbing english really sucks, i had heard before, some speaks with no emotion and absolutely corrupts the anime and makes me off the tv with disgust. Other than that, they cut some parts too, to make the anime family-friendly. and other than japanese voiced, other languages simply don't match japanese animation, spoken with wrong tone of voice, going happy/excited/angry in wrong parts. >-<


Agreed.Hasn't english dubbing one of the worst activities among many America anime dubbing productions in the world?Basically,non-american anime fan hates the english dub.Unless if they watched the english dub of a anime first,they might change their mind.Whatever you see first,is probably what you prefer.
And actually,Americans make Japanese Anime just for 'Little Children'.They think the watchers are 3 year olds,hence the cutting of scenes and horrible dubbing.Even the Openings and endings too.They screw them up with lots of random scenes of the openings and endings with some parts in the show,so TA-DA!The magical mixed up dumb OP of terror.Examples are the english dubbing of almost every anime,with one known as PPGZ.I would cry if they do something to our KHR OPs and EDs.


I agree actually, my very first anime was Doraemon when I was around four years old and I was with my grandparents in Hokkaido. When I first saw a dub and compared it to what I watched in Japan, I was surprised. BUT I will give it this, most anime watchers, well those who watch subs, probably got into anime when they watched a dub, so I will contribute the large amount of American anime viewers because of dubs. Now, even though I really think poorly of CR, I do actually like that it streams subbed episodes, though I'm still all for downloading.


Well, i finally understood why the cutting of scenes. Anime isn't cartoon, and it seemed to me that the America anime peeps are looking down on Japanese animation. Fairly well, almost everyone know the difference between Anime and Cartoons. And yeah, if they did SOMETHING to KHR, i probably go to their house and throw them into the sea (nah, i am kidding)
my first anime was also Doraemon, but i watched it in Chinese, perhaps because i watched dubbed first, i find it nicer. But the dubbers speaks with feelings, not those exaggarated kind, going low and high pitch in wrong parts. Then again, if anyone subscribed to cartoon net works, there is naruto being broadcasted. I watched a little bit of it, and i was like, 'oh my god, is this really naruto?' and the anime is totally being destroyed, the way of their pronouncement of naruto, they say it in, Na- RU (abit kind of high at the RU) -to
and my friend ended up laughing like crazy after just seeing the previews.

But CR is quite a nice site, at least the owner went to fight for the rights and allowed us once again to watch subbed episodes instead of being licensed.


Actually, he doesn't fight against anything. The shows are STILL licensed, but Shinji obtains the licensing rights in order to allow CR to stream episodes, so in essence, he's not "fighting", he's getting a cut of the deal.
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Tsutoki wrote:


theGirlx wrote:


Tsutoki wrote:


LiSiaoGirl wrote:


theGirlx wrote:

i would cry too. dubbing english really sucks, i had heard before, some speaks with no emotion and absolutely corrupts the anime and makes me off the tv with disgust. Other than that, they cut some parts too, to make the anime family-friendly. and other than japanese voiced, other languages simply don't match japanese animation, spoken with wrong tone of voice, going happy/excited/angry in wrong parts. >-<


Agreed.Hasn't english dubbing one of the worst activities among many America anime dubbing productions in the world?Basically,non-american anime fan hates the english dub.Unless if they watched the english dub of a anime first,they might change their mind.Whatever you see first,is probably what you prefer.
And actually,Americans make Japanese Anime just for 'Little Children'.They think the watchers are 3 year olds,hence the cutting of scenes and horrible dubbing.Even the Openings and endings too.They screw them up with lots of random scenes of the openings and endings with some parts in the show,so TA-DA!The magical mixed up dumb OP of terror.Examples are the english dubbing of almost every anime,with one known as PPGZ.I would cry if they do something to our KHR OPs and EDs.


I agree actually, my very first anime was Doraemon when I was around four years old and I was with my grandparents in Hokkaido. When I first saw a dub and compared it to what I watched in Japan, I was surprised. BUT I will give it this, most anime watchers, well those who watch subs, probably got into anime when they watched a dub, so I will contribute the large amount of American anime viewers because of dubs. Now, even though I really think poorly of CR, I do actually like that it streams subbed episodes, though I'm still all for downloading.


Well, i finally understood why the cutting of scenes. Anime isn't cartoon, and it seemed to me that the America anime peeps are looking down on Japanese animation. Fairly well, almost everyone know the difference between Anime and Cartoons. And yeah, if they did SOMETHING to KHR, i probably go to their house and throw them into the sea (nah, i am kidding)
my first anime was also Doraemon, but i watched it in Chinese, perhaps because i watched dubbed first, i find it nicer. But the dubbers speaks with feelings, not those exaggarated kind, going low and high pitch in wrong parts. Then again, if anyone subscribed to cartoon net works, there is naruto being broadcasted. I watched a little bit of it, and i was like, 'oh my god, is this really naruto?' and the anime is totally being destroyed, the way of their pronouncement of naruto, they say it in, Na- RU (abit kind of high at the RU) -to
and my friend ended up laughing like crazy after just seeing the previews.

But CR is quite a nice site, at least the owner went to fight for the rights and allowed us once again to watch subbed episodes instead of being licensed.


Actually, he doesn't fight against anything. The shows are STILL licensed, but Shinji obtains the licensing rights in order to allow CR to stream episodes, so in essence, he's not "fighting", he's getting a cut of the deal.


I agree.Shinji made CR a offical anime watching site.Basically I have nothing much to say but even if Shinji got licensing rights for about every anime,some animes are not easily viewed from some countries.THE owner tried his best to make it around the whole world to watch animes.It'll take forever for CR to get all the animes to be able to be watched.
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Okay, understood. Does Shinji needs to pay money? I think he probably needs a great deal of money, since those videos are made available to whoever signs up on crunchyroll.

But at least the efforts are good;D And i hope Shinji will get the rights for Hitman reborn.
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