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The REAL Four Spiritual Laws
Why bad things happen to good people
By Elroy

As a kid growing up in a Fundamentalist Christian church, we often used tracts called "The Four Spiritual Laws" to reach out to losers and other lost people. We believed the Four Spiritual Laws represented the Gospel in a nutshell, and we used this man-made method to proselytize on behalf of the God we believed we followed.
But years of experience with Christians have led me to believe those original four laws were incorrect. Thus, here are the REAL Four Spiritual Laws as spelled out in the Bible (mind you, I don't really believe this, but this is, indeed, what the Bible teaches):

God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life.

But God chose to give the earth and all its people over to the control of a mean bastard evil guy named Satan, whose sole job it is to destroy us as best possible with things like earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes and reruns of 'Three's Company.'

If you plead hard enough and use enough spiritual warfare, it's possible to kick God in the butt just enough to get him to intervene and stop the evil Satan from doing even worse things to us - but usually only on a case-by-case basis.

However, if you've found the most correct of all correct versions of Christianity and can claim a better 'relationship' with the Almighty through a better walk with a better Christ through a better version the Holy Spirit, then it's possible you might be granted a bubble to protect you from Satan, thus granting you a somewhat permanent injunction against the evil that God otherwise allows to destroy his created people (the ones he loves and has created a wonderful plan for their lives).

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so why don't God interneved if he is so loving and all powerfull? and the last time I read the bible Satan is not suffereing in hell so if he is in hell suffereing he would not have the power to prevent us from finding God and threats of hellfire whill not convert people to your religion which is nothing more than a get out of hell/jail freecard
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shinto-male wrote:

so why don't God interneved if he is so loving and all powerfull? and the last time I read the bible Satan is not suffereing in hell so if he is in hell suffereing he would not have the power to prevent us from finding God and threats of hellfire whill not convert people to your religion which is nothing more than a get out of hell/jail freecard


Goes does intervene, but do we ask? Satan wants us to sin, and you can't live in sin and please God at the same time, you can't serve two masters. Satan isn't in hell yet, in fact he roams the earth stirring up trouble and preventing people from knowing the Truth. Satan only has the power he has because God allows Him to have it. Satan hates God with a passion, in fact the first sin was satan's pride and envy. God loves His creation (us) and wants us to enter in a relationship with Him, however, He leaves that choice up to us. God reaches out, and satan tries to pull us back. Christianity isn't about a "get out of hell free card." It's about a complete life change. Christian evangelists tend to make it seem like we try to get our ticket into heaven by believing in Jesus, which is partially correct. However, Jesus even says here Jhn 14:21 Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him." They reach believing in Jesus, but they don't preach loving Jesus and obeying Him as the Messiah. Repentance is turning from sin, not knowing its wrong and doing it over and over again. No one is perfect though, but within our imperfection we can live for Christ by striving to live a sinless life that glorifies God. Jesus taught us the way to live, not just the way to die.
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Christianity mostly the right wing evanglelical kind is a get out of hell freecard according to this doing good works like helping the poor, the sick, doing justice etc while not save us from hell only the belief in Jesus. if God believe in free choice he would not let this satan roam about preventing us from finding him. what kind of loving diety wout act in such a sadist manner. if he love us he would not make so hard to reach him. that's not love that's a tug o war


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Troll thread being taken quite seriously I see
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gordianknot wrote:


MEMPHADON wrote:

BE BRAVE, AND ACCEPT YOUR FATE. NOTHING IS MORE GLORIOUS THAN KNOWING YOU ARE DOOMED AND CHARGING OUT ANYWAYS. THAT IS TRUE COURAGE, AND THAT IS WHAT WILL DETERMINE THE HEROES FROM THE COWARDS WHEN THE FINAL BATTLE BEGINS



Sounds like you're endorsing a fighting game over there.


not a game. there will be a time when all the world seems to go to hell, and when that time comes, the people of the world will either fight for their well being, or flee. but, fight or flee, all will perish. it is in the way that we perish that will separate the heroes from the cowards. to the gods, there is no more glorious a way to die than fighting a battle you can't win, for a cause that may well be lost, but fight anyways. the gods honor such courage, and by such courage the gods themselves will eventually be destroyed. but in return for their valorous sacrifice, the human race will survive.
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I like your face.
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MEMPHADON wrote:

DON'T BELIEVE IN HIS FALSE PROPHET!! ODIN SAW WHAT WAS TRULY GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE END OF DAYS, AND NO GOD CAN PROTECT YOU FROM THAT FATE. PATHETIC CHRISTIANS CLING TO THEIR WEAK GOD, DESPARATELY HOPING THAT THEIR DEAD PROPHET CAN SAVE THEM.

BE BRAVE, AND ACCEPT YOUR FATE. NOTHING IS MORE GLORIOUS THAN KNOWING YOU ARE DOOMED AND CHARGING OUT ANYWAYS. THAT IS TRUE COURAGE, AND THAT IS WHAT WILL DETERMINE THE HEROES FROM THE COWARDS WHEN THE FINAL BATTLE BEGINS




chea ill see u in valhalla!!! ill b fucking valkaries and drinking mead
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vaghpia wrote:

If you have not received Yahushua as your messiah, do so before it is too late. Get right with Yahushua and cast off all that he hates and strive to enter the sabbath with Yahushua to grow in holiness. For is it worth going to hell for foolish reasons such as doubting, bickering, gossiping, stealing, lying, lusting, and so forth? Is your life worth throwing away for petty treasures that will rot and rust?

By your knowledge and power you cannot save yourself. Do not pretend and delude yourself any longer with imaginations. In humility, seek the truth with eyes untainted and ears unfiltered. The truth is Yahushua. He is the good shepherd who will feed, clothe, and protect you. He promises the gift of salvation and so much more. Do not take it for granted. Make it today to seek him, to receive him, to obey him, and to prepare yourself by living holy unto him.

The end is coming very near.

There will come many things will cause you to lose faith in the little that you have, and to be overwhelmed with the deception that is to come. There will be many signs and wonders that will cause even the christians to fall away from the truth. If you being an unbeliever, how much more lost will you be in the midst of the confusion? Be prudent and set your time into studying and meditating upon scripture. Pray for the Holy Spirit to guide you to all truths. Knowledge without love will be meaningless. Seek for the meaning and you shall receiving the meaning. Do not continue to walk in disbelief. Pray to see the truth, for it is there. It is only that you allowed the deception to blind you that you do not see.

Yahushua died that whoever shall believe in him shall not have to go to hell. Believe in his words and his death and resurrection, and trust him with all your heart and mind, and strive to obey him. Strive! You are not adhered to obey what you do not understand. Is a 5th grader going to be able to take on a college course? Ridiculous. Immerse into the faith, and gradually grow taking a step at a time until you grow into the fullness of the word of Yah. It is not a burden too heavy for anyone to carry. If you will only have faith, miracles will follow. Test if his promises are true. Have faith and miracles will follow indeed. Put to practice the words of Yahushua and see for yourself that his words are true.

Seek to have faith in Yahushua by reading and hearing of the testimonies. Begin walking in holiness by abstaining from eating blood, eating meat from strangled animals, eating food sacrificed to idols, and sexual immorality. Strive to learn the ways of by daily meditating and studying the scripture that you will grow in the truth. For when you have the truth in you, the truth shall set you free. Now all will not be able to bare these words, but to the one that the Ruach convicts, do not procrastinate or wait. The time is at hand. Open your eyes and ears to the spiritual time and you will realize the hour is indeed near midnight. Wake up and prepare quickly, for he is coming.

Shalom.

For those truly seeking, go here to get more bread and water of life: http://www.amightywind.com/prophecy/iprophecynum.htm?124,18



LOL, right. Jashin-sama is much better
Posted 1/22/09
I choose to believe in the flying spaghetti monster o3o
Posted 1/22/09
The internet is full of lazy idiots such as myself, who won't read that. Especially sense it sounded like a advertisement...it sounded like you were going for a hook, but then yeah I just gave up.
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REPORTED FOR BEING ANNOYINGLY GAY!!!
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In the Christian moral universe, it is a greater moral evil to reject Jesus than it is to gas 6 million Jews, for gassing can be forgiven- rejecting Jesus can not. In the Christian moral scheme, a person who killed the entire population of planet Earth and then went on to destroy the entire Universe is LESS evil than the 12 year old boy who "blasphemes the Holy Spirit" after hitting his thumb with a hammer, for the one can be forgiven, whereas the boy can never be forgiven.



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vaghpia wrote:

http://www.amightywind.com/prophecy/iprophecynum.htm?124,18



"amighywind.com". So....Yahushua is a fart?

Posted 1/23/09
I do believe Satan owns my soul so.........
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