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Don't you hate people that ''Hate'' America for the simple reason that it makes ''remakes''.
Posted 1/23/09

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Remaking is evil...


explain please?? because i think what you are saying is bullshit -__-


chill man dont have a heart attack


no need to chill just a question is that already forbidden aswell O______O
geez everytime i ASK someone to explain something the noob won't explain instead of that a another guy/girl is quoting me for nothing ~sigh~ the world is doomed TT_TT


did i say it was fuckin forbidden?!!btw y would u call someone noob f u dnt even knoe them in person thats just effin stupid.im just saying u need to fckin chill u dnt have to annihilate.HOLLY


1 i asked if that already was forbidded not that you said that it was forbidden =_=

2 why do i need to chill if i am only asking something??

3 its a noob i am sure of it ^__^

ok sorry mr almighty



=3= there is still nobody who explained it NOES =3=
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Posted 1/24/09

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I DISAGREE COZ AMERICAN REMAKE SUX AND THEIR WILL RUIN THE ORIGINAL


I don't get why people say things like "it will ruin the original". Although it's the same storyline, how does it ruin the original? The original's already out there, people like it. In fact, people like it so much they're making another one. The new one might turn out bad, but it won't affect how good the original is.

But I also think too many remakes of the same thing gets boring. No need to make a HYD for every single country. It's like watching the same movie 10 times in a row. There might be small differences you notice every time that you didn't notice before, but the story and ending is the same. Besides that, most American remakes, compared to the Asian originals, are worse.


"I completely agree. First off, Hollywood is the center of the universe when it comes to entertainment. No country even comes close, and I mean NO COUNTRY. When it comes to the best writers, directors, producers, and actors, the US easily wins, hands down. Sure they make some crappy stuff, but when you are making so many movies and shows every year, not everything is going to be Oscar worthy. As far as remakes go, you do realize almost all of the great filmmakers around the world see Hollywood as their influence. So if you're going to complain about a country who may have 4-5 remakes in a year in which they produce hundreds of original work, you're just hating."


I agree, the whole point to making a remake is to not have it the exactly the same, thats why its called a remake. And its not like you have to watch the remake. But yes I also agree that if its made into a remake to many times, its almost like watching the same thing over and over again. Though I do kind of like Korean version of HYD, all the actors and actresses are all very good at what they do. If you know that the remake is going to be bad then just don't watch it, its that simple. And I have to agree that yes most of the time when Hollywood remakes a movie its normally almost always way off from the original and a lot worse than the original movie. But its also good that Hollywood makes a remake of it. Because then the original gets more viewing and gets more hype and money, and a lot more recognition. Even though the remake may be totally different from the original I still think that the director and the maker of the original are probably pretty happy because their movie was the one to be picked for a remake by Hollywood.


If you're an avid film watcher, you know that being picked by Hollywood or MTV isn't all that, as they make the lower quality films. It is the film companies outside of Hollywood in America that makes the good movies. For example, its more honorable to have a movie remade by Brad Pitt's indie-ish company rather than Hollywood ones.




Yeah thats is true. Personally I don't like Hollywood at all. I just thought the fact that if hollywood or any american film company tries to make a remake of an asian film, they would be pretty happy. First because it gives them more money, and exposes the movie more to the world. Though I don't want to make it sound like the asian film industry is desperate to be able to get into the american one. Ive also forgotten my last reason but oh well. But I have to say I have ssen some remakes and I have liked them. not many but some.
Posted 1/24/09

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Did you do your research? American director/producers are 'interested' in the original? The only way they are interested is finance-wise. And it is not the "American" directors/producers who are 'interested' but a copyright buyer, ROY LEE, who is seeking profit only. Therefore, they could care less about the quality of the film, which is what angers the majority of people who hate remakes. The movie industry in america as it was since 2003 was deteriorating; they had no new ideas. Why else would they do a remake? Duh. Bring in more money from foreign well-done films: which means they're bound to succeed or at least make more money. Yes they credit the original but only slightly. And the profit they make is much more than the original also. Its almost like expoitation.
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What is wrong with that? There you said it A KOREAN-AMERICAN,none the less is the one who is interested in the original,who then does what? Oh,right pitches it to American directors/producers for the American audience,by th copyright,if fans are so mad about this and that Why don't they get mad at the Copyright holder who is giving copyright permission to Roy Lee.What's so bad about changing it for the American audience,all these asian films that have made it big in Hollywood,all my friends and family say that it is to there liking. There is no need of research here,it just comes down to a few things...
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I have no problem with remakes as long as it is as good as the original. Compare The Eye remake, My Sassy Girl remakes, etc to their original counterparts. NO WHERE as good. But look at The Departed. Its almost as good as the original, and won some awards also-because time was put into it so that it'll be of quality. You can tell the directors are genuinely interested in the original and it was not a Roy Lee copyright bought film, it was from the new director's interest. Whereas, the majority of films are slapped together because its bought from Roy Lee and they just want money.
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The departed was a Roy Lee copyright bought film,so what are you talking about? Telling me to do some research when you your self don't seem to know that.
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I have to reiterate that for a time, Hollywood was running out of ideas, while Korean films and foreign films flourished. Thats because of their cultural historical context which produces new stories.

As for Asian remakes of another asian film such as Hana Yori Dango, thats no biggie because its based of a manga. There is no cultural difference that would change the storyline and make the fans hate it. The majority of Hollywood remakes have asian cultural ties that are lost when set in American environment and therefore the movie lacks substance, meaning and purpose.
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You see this is where you are actually wrong,there is a cultural difference,not extremely huge,but it still is there...Why do you think there are different HYD's,as people say with your views why can't S.Korea just show the Japanese version with Korean subtitles(Like you wish for America to show the original with sibtitles). SIMPLE,because it would be better to switch it up for the Korean audience,it would have never gotten the media attention it has if it was the Japanese version.
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Then there are films such as upcoming Dragon Ball Z where Goku is some whacky caucasian kid (ok, the anime has blone hair too, but it is mutually agreed that he's more "Asian"). And the film is obviously a terrible live action. Thus, another large group of fans are hating it.
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WTH! Are you talking about Goku is an alien,he was never Asian! Even if you say he was Asian because of where he was raised that is just stupid,and now you are being ignorant.That's like saying if you were born in Mexico,but were raised in Asia,your Asian. You see how stupid that sounds,people need to realize that.
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And then there's the live-action of Street Fighter- blah.
And the live action of AVATAR. Well, the main character is obviously Asian, yet they're casting caucasians as the main characters and probably some asians on the side. AHEM! Who's racist? The directors are, not the audience or fans or asians.
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Again! This is for the American audience,I do agree that it would be better for those kinds of Movies to use asian actors/actresses,but truly most of the characters on Street Fighter look white. Also,What about Asia making American remakes do they use American actors,NO they don't,you really are not making a good argument,when you are yourself looking at it from a biased point.
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Come on, this is just another way of westerners using, abusing, exploiting Asians for their goods and then 'dispose' of them when they're not wanted. This past racist historical act is happening again in this century under different circumstances: movies and copyrights...= money. The only interest they ever have with Asians are labor exploitation and goods. They see/saw asia with stereotypical eyes, labeled Asia(ns) with dehumanizing stereotypes and used them yet set them apart from society. GO STUDY YOUR HISTORY and get your facts straight first, before you post another ignorant opinion/view on a subject matter.
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You really need to see things from a different perspective,and instead of telling me to go study history or something about an ignorant view,REVIEW what you just said,and take your own advice.SIMPLE AS THAT!
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Posted 1/24/09

kismetsu wrote:

Oh and one more thing.

If they sooo had an interest in the original, why not just SHOW THE ORIGINAL? And if they ca't understand, find good voice actors or just subtitle it.
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Like I said the same thing could have been said to the Asian Entertainment industry that just makes remakes of HYD,why don't they just show the Japanese version instead of making a Korean version!? CAUSE THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN CULTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :
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Does it hurt to see an asian lead cast on screen? Americans were perfectly fine watching Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon with subtitles.

Did you also notice how asians are always the villain, sidekick, slut, whore? Yea...racist. All we want is just some credit to asians and minorities. I mean, look at 21. The movie is based on MIT college kids who are all asian with the asian professor, but the cast is changed to all white and one lazy asian guy-the bad role, again.
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Wow! Are you serious? You seem to be the ignorant one,You could say the same thing for other Minorities,or even WHITES,Asians are not the only bad guys,maybe it's just what your watching...I rarely see asian bad guys,in the movies I've seen they play the smart roles.
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Are you that dense that you don't see the inequality and the true intentions behind most remakes and the history of 'east and west'?


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Posted 1/24/09
Nah~ I have nothing against american remakes.

But I do have something against asians who think america is the best, richest country in the world, and the place where all your dreams come true.

I'm no racist. I'm half asian myself.
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Posted 1/24/09 , edited 1/24/09
YES!!!
well not necessarily hate.
just annoyed about how
they all complain.
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Posted 1/24/09
why all the hate for remakes??lol it doesnt bother me at all..i dont get it
of course some will be better than others and if a remake sucks it wont change the original or "ruin" it..
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From Bridget Jones' Diary (a tedious and unfunny unfeelgood Pride and Prejudice mangle) on through Cheaper by the Dozen and Bewitched, I believe the worst remakes in American history have all come out within the last ten years.

I don't blame anyone for losing respect for us culturally on this and other grounds. We have a lot of making up to do as far as our world image goes, and our films are far from the main reason. This is just another example of how much damage the Bush administration did to America's international standing.
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i agree with u ........ i dont wanna sound racist BUT really i think its a race thing ......people just dont want to see THERE thing taken by another ...ummm....community ......especially if they watched it since they were kids.....it FEELS like the people that are taking it wanna change it or make it worse......but thats just how i see it....
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America has just kind of culturally shut down over the last decade. I think the mindlessness in music and movies is because it's hard to be creative when you have to completely shut down so much of your awareness of what your country is doing, so you don't become consumed by guilt and disgust.
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As for Asian remakes of another asian film such as Hana Yori Dango, thats no biggie because its based of a manga. There is no cultural difference that would change the storyline and make the fans hate it. The majority of Hollywood remakes have asian cultural ties that are lost when set in American environment and therefore the movie lacks substance, meaning and purpose.


Akira Kurosawa, the LEGENDARY Japanese director, based three, count them-three, of his movies on Shakepeare’s Works (Macbeth, Hamlet, and King Lear). Now, do you think that he had his actors speaking Japanese in Iambic pentameter or upheld the Western-specific symbolism? No. His Macbeth took great liberalities, more than most versions do. But Throne of Blood is considered by literary critics to be one of the best adaptations of Macbeth there is. It even has endorsements from Harold Bloom, a very esteemed literary critic, and T.S. Elliot. Furthermore, Kurosawa based several other of his movies on books by American and Russian novelists.

Are going to tell me that because he lost the Western cultural ties in these movies that his movies lack substance, meaning, and purpose? Are you going to tell me that his movies should have kept the Western names and Western actors? No. He’s known for a reason. It can be done, and it is done more often than not.

Guess what? Asians do remakes too. Overboard was remade as Couple or Trouble. Happy Killing was a remake of a French movie. I included other Western countries in my post because of their cultural differences would supposedly have an impact on the quality of the remake.

What makes a remake bad? Well, depends what people mean as bad? If they mean different from the original, then pretty much anything. People like to be elitist about their movies. What annoys me is when people generalize and automatically assume that because they’re doing a few remakes that they’re “running out of ideas” or leeching off those poor Asian writers, directors, and producers, as if they’re not receiving a cut from this.


Bridget Jones' Diary (a tedious and unfunny unfeelgood Pride and Prejudice mangle)


Actually, you can thank a British author for the tedious and unfunny Pride and Prejudice mangle, as it was her book Bridget Jones’ diary that was made into the movie. (I’m sorry, if I read it wrong, but it seems you were saying the movie was a direct adaptation of Pride and Prejudice rather than the book Bridget Jones’ diary.)
Posted 1/25/09
i DONT agree nor disagree...
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yeah i think they should hate us for the horrendous decisions we've made recently although its hopefully going to change now! i think that other countries hate us less because of the outcome of our recent election... i'm not trying to be political i'm just stating the facts... but i dislike the fact that the US makes so many damn remakes and i'm a US citizen... it's sad though. we need some originality...
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Posted 1/25/09 , edited 1/25/09

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i agree with u ........ i dont wanna sound racist BUT really i think its a race thing ......people just dont want to see THERE thing taken by another ...ummm....community ......especially if they watched it since they were kids.....it FEELS like the people that are taking it wanna change it or make it worse......but thats just how i see it....


i dont think its that really.... its more the fact that the companies want as much money as possible so they look toward hit movies from other countires to try to gain popularity. but some have been failures. like the lake house. it's original was ll mare with jun ji hyun. it did well in korea i think but it didnt do so well here. it's probably because of the actors... no offense to them but jun ji hyun is really popular because of her good movies(my sassy girl, windstruck, etc..) and her astounding acting (you don't have to like her but i think that she's a pretty good actress) but sandra bullock and keanu reeves just dont have the same affect (no ofense to them or anyone that likes them i dont hate them just stating facts the movie was okay but didnt bring in alot of money). same with my sassy girl. it did well in korea so the industres in the us thought they could make bank on that. another money idea is that they will split the 7th book of harry potter into two movies. that desicion isn't to have more in the movies but it's to make more money on a really popular movie of a really popular book. that's why they made twilight. because girls were dropping like flies at the thought of edward and other hot vampires or werewolves (whatever your preference may be) they thought that they could make alot of money (which they did) if tehy didnt screw it up (well... they kinda did but kinda many people didn't mind) it appealed and borought them (millions/billions?). unlike most remakes. hmmm... can anyone think of movies that have done well as remakes in the US????? cuz i cant...maybe the industries should learn that most remakes are flops. also what about remakes in asia of American movies or tv show??? have you noticed that they most remakes made are horror movies. japan makes really good ones and america tends to screw them up. for example the grudge, the ring, one missed call, and much more. any other horror movies or any other movies and dramas in general that the US made that you can think of??? there's probably a lot i cant think of any. sorry for the huge amount of writing... but while people can be racist (its definitely true) i think it's all about money... and that's why the people hate the movie industries so much (yet still go to the movies)...
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