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Who will win Nanaya Shiki or Ryougi Shiki
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Posted 9/22/09
I'd heard a lot of this recently about Ryougi vs Satsujinki.... I mean... That's handicap EXCEPT if Ryougi is Ryougi VOID (third personality).. Yeah Satsujinki may kill anyone in a flash and no arguing with that but VOID has the ability to kill anything existant like distance itself.. It's also said she can move almost like the speed of sound and she can kill anything within a single motion... ( 1 slash, ___ dead target numbers your choice). So I'd definitely vote for Ryougi that's all....
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Posted 10/26/09
Of course Nanaya Shiki will win although maybe just by little but still he is very great and his ability is real high class assassin. If Ryougi Shiki, she's great too but still her ability is not as good as Nanaya.

Nanaya Shiki Rules!!!
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shadowdog wrote:

..................I really really suck at explaining but from what I read from the TYPE-MOON wiki, from the comments, watched from the movies and tsukihime episodes, I concluded that Ryougi Shiki is much much superior than Shiki Tohno and Nanaya. Why? because she is perfectly fit for the mystic eyes. It doesn't matter whose eyes are more advanced, what really matters is who can win in a fight. I think Ryougi will win because of her physical strength, speed and combat skills. What Tohno only has is his fighting skills from his genetic background, which really doesn't make sense to me. I mean COME ON! you inherit BADASS ASSASSIN SKILLS FROM YOUR GENETIC BACKGROUND??!! That does not make sense to me.Anyway, not only does Ryougi comes from a background of martial artists, but also she is a practitioner of martail arts and kendo as well.

If the two of them would fight RIGHT NOW! Ryougi will kill him instantly because she won't give him time to unleash Nanaya. Even if she gave him time, Ultimately she would be the victor.

Ryougi Shiki is more skilled in combat, has strong body and the right mental stability to fight and handle her mystic eyes than Tohno . She shows no hesitation to kill. She's the perfect assassin/warrior.

Face it, Shiki Tohno has too many drawbacks that I don't feel like mentioning them all. Even if he turned to Nanaya mode, it won't make a really significant difference against Ryougi due to his weak body. The longer he fights, the weaker his body becomes from his extensive use of his mystic eyes and his injured frail body.







How about seeing a Ryougi Shiki being dissected in 17 pieces in a split second by Nanaya Shiki?
Posted 4/3/10 , edited 4/3/10
* Tohno SHIKI (Roa): Technically speaking, these are not "true" mystic eyes of death perception; his ability is to see the life force, and it is because he sees the life force, and not actually the death, that these Mystic Eyes of Death Perception are not considered true MEoDP. Consequently, these eyes are limited to killing living things and can be used to directly damage or annihilate someone's life force. Because the flow of one's life is the same as the flow of one's death, the lines overlap, but their origins are different, and therefore the dots don't. His mystic eyes can't actually "kill" like real MEoDP users. Instead, it would just inflict critical damage on someone's life force. So, rather than dying because their "death" has been directly activated, SHIKI (Roa)'s victims die simply because they can no longer live, which leads to their death.
* Nanaya Shiki: His MEoDP allows him to perceive the death of any concrete, physical existence. So he can kill people, animals, walls, locks, Nero's Soil of Genesis, etc. Basically Nanaya Shiki's Mystic Eyes attack the "point of death" and not the "point of life," so people killed by his mystic eyes die directly. What happens is that as soon as a death is triggered, the object's existence unravels and whatever made the object what it is (like, what makes a living person a living person or a hallway a hallway) immediately ends in the simplest way (Death for the person, and collapsing for the hallway). Those who have accumulated an exceptionally large weight of existence, like Roa or Araya Souren, take longer to die because there is more of their existence that needs to unravel. Also, some things possess death that is too far from human perception to be understood by Shiki, such as a True Ancestor under the full moon. On a side note, Shiki has been known to kill things that have not yet fully assumed physical form, such as when he killed the Tatari in Melty Blood before he had true form in the world or even Arcueid's link to the world. He could also see and kill Akiha's "Plundering" or "Caging Hair" in Tsukihime, but this has been retroactively explained as being a Pure Eyes ability he already possessed.
* Ryougi Shiki: Her MEoDP allows her to perceive the death of more or less anything that exists. Whether it is a person, an object, a ghost, a disease, a thought lingering in someone's mind, magecraft, a ward, a psychic attack, etc., so long as it exists, she can kill it. (In fact, she claims that if God exists, she could kill him.) So, she basically kills whatever she pleases, although she had some difficulty with killing Araya Souren.[14] Nevertheless, Araya Souren himself infers that ultimately she could perceive the death of anything, without exception, if she searched deeply enough.[15] Contrary to what the OVAs may lead one to conclude, her eyes are permanently active, but she doesn't suffer any strain from this.
* Ryougi Shiki (Void): The hidden, third personality of Ryougi Shiki. In fact, it is this personality that is directly connected to the root of all things. Her mystic eyes are much the same as the normal Ryougi Shiki's, only much, much more powerful. She claims that it would be trivially easy for her to annihilate reality.[16]


Ryougi Shiki is the most powerful end of story. and no one and nothing would stand a chance against her I mean this explains it all....seriously did anyone weven take time to read this? Ryougi Shiki is practically a god or even above god.
Posted 4/4/10
you fanboys/girls know the truth o-o Nanaya would be the one getting dissected non not even dissected he would simply vanish with one swipe of ryougi's Well whatever she chooses to annihilate him with ;D
Posted 4/4/10
16. Kara no Kyoukai, Original Epilogue. "Right, that is Shikis power. Like Fujino she can see channels that normal people can't see, she is able to see the spiral of origin with her eyes. But, I can go even deeper. No... maybe I myself am that spiral."

".... Spiral of origin, its where all cause and effect begin, where everything and nothing exist, that is my true identity. Even though we are just connected, but since I am part of it, I too am an equivocal existence, right? That is why I can do anything..hmm like restructuring the laws governing atomic matter, or go back in time to change the evolution and development of all life, to reconstruct the orders and laws of this world is easy for me too. Not making change to the existing world, but rather annihilate the old one with a new reality."


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Posted 4/24/10
hahahaha i have no idea who they are but i chose nanaya cuz he was hotter ;D
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Posted 4/24/10 , edited 4/26/10
That picture of Nanaya is really Tohno Shiki from the Manga adaption (Bonus Color Page in Volume). The Nanaya Shiki I think you are refering to is really a incarnation for the Melty Blood series

Here is my belief as to who is stronger:

Satsujinki Shiki > Ryougi Shiki (After Coma) > Nanaya Shiki (created by White Len) > Tohno Shiki > Tohno SHIKI (Roa) > Nanaya Kiri > [ Nanaya Shiki (Created by Night of Wallachia) = Rougi Shiki (Before Coma) ]



Ryougi Vs Nanaya (Melty Blood)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0h8aEePT6k
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Correct me if I'm wrong but, I was under the impression that Ryougi's 3rd personality was basically the same thing as Akasha. Even if Nayaya is some hyper inbred buffed up human, he can't really beat something that is Akasha itself. -_- Won't she just kill reality if she gets pissed?
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Posted 7/30/10 , edited 7/31/10
V.Akiha couldn't kill Nanaya and if she wants,she can kill things the moment she sees them.The problem was that Nanaya was so fast,she couldnt even see him properly.Or when Nero sended his dozens of beasts too kill Shiki it was so easy for Nanaya to kill them that it made me laugh.....and lets not forget Nero himself.His speed was "inhuman",but still,Shiki kicked his apostolic ass.Now,how cool is that.On the other side,Ryougi Shiki aways had trouble with plot-stains...in one episode she was caught twice from a FRIKIN' ZOMBIES(COME ON!)......now,how cool is that(not cool).The problem with Nanaya(instincts on) vs Ryougi(after coma) is solved.Now lets see Shiki Satsujinki vs 3rd personality.Clear win for Satsujinki.In one of the notes he killed a dead apostle called Louvre.Louvre didn't even realize that he's been killed..

Won't she just kill reality if she gets pissed?

Well,that being said,she wouldn't even get pissed,because she wont realize that she is getting killed.Plus Nanaya has far superior quotes in MB:AA than Ryougi.Period on everything I said.
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wait wait a second guys.. i have watched tsukihime.. i know that nanaya shiki is strong.. i have also watched garden of sinners also known as kara no kyoukai... i have compared them two and knew that ryougi shiki is stronger the fact that she is female... nanaya shiki is male... one [email protected] guy said that ryougi shiki cant kill thiongs???? i mean wtF?? as you see in movie 5 or 6 of garden of sinners she killed a lock!! so does that mean what you basically said was wrong?? if i weigh their skills ryougi shiki will win the fact that she doesn't have headaches or anything and what she sees is the origin of oneself!!! i mean the origin of you and where you came from!! she can kill your past lives and erase you from existence... RYOUGI SHIKI IS THE WINNER PERIOD..
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Posted 10/15/10
also ryougi shiki wears a kimono which is very hard when you fight in a kimono also she has a powerful left hand that is customized by the most powerful mage in the anime,, and she is not even a dagger user herself but as you see when you are watching the movie she is using a dagger one enemy said to her that she is a swordswoman.. but she is good on both..
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Posted 10/19/10
Ryougi Shiki.
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Posted 10/20/10
one more thing .. why do you think that ryougi shiki is a secret boss of fate stay night? huh? and not nanaya shiki? and one [email protected] guy said that it's not cool that ryougi got caught by a zombie... well nanaya shiki got caught many times too now how cool is that? (not cool)
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Posted 10/23/10 , edited 10/23/10

francisosorio243 wrote:

wait wait a second guys.. i have watched tsukihime.. i know that nanaya shiki is strong.. i have also watched garden of sinners also known as kara no kyoukai... i have compared them two and knew that ryougi shiki is stronger the fact that she is female... nanaya shiki is male... one [email protected] guy said that ryougi shiki cant kill thiongs???? i mean wtF?? as you see in movie 5 or 6 of garden of sinners she killed a lock!! so does that mean what you basically said was wrong?? if i weigh their skills ryougi shiki will win the fact that she doesn't have headaches or anything and what she sees is the origin of oneself!!! i mean the origin of you and where you came from!! she can kill your past lives and erase you from existence... RYOUGI SHIKI IS THE WINNER PERIOD..


LOL WHAT?You have watched "Tsukihime"??Tsukihime the anime?That explains why you think Ryougi is stronger.Read the VISUAL NOVEL Tsukihime and you will see Tohno Shiki in action.The anime Tsukihime was a tasteless joke compared to the original(the visual novel).And you wont see Nanaya(Tohno Shiki on bloodlust mode)getting caught a single time,at least not by some freaking zombie(he wasn't caught AT ALL).Do you know why?Because he is cool.And I advice you to read Kagetsu Tohya as well.There is an explanation where its stated that when he toss his knife,the knifes speed is as fast as a bullet and Nanaya himself can outrun the knife.Really,there wont be any fight between Ryougi and Nanaya,because Nanaya(Tohno on bloodlust)will rip her head off before she recognize him as an enemy.Even if she can change reality,she is going to die before she recognize him as an obstacle,no better yet,she wont find who killed her.
Its the same contrariwise she can erase him so fast with her imba 3rd personality,but the turning point is that she isn't a spree killer who kills for fun......she is terrified by this dark side of hers,but Nanaya Shiki IS a spree killer who kills for fun and will kill her even if he doesn't recognize her as an enemy and think she is just a hot chick.
Oh and "francisosorio243" let me say that you must read the whole post before replying,not only the first two sentences,because if you read my whole previous post I was discussing the fight between Nanaya and Ryougi without her 3rd personality and after then I was discussing the fight between Satsujinki and Ryougi's 3rd persona.


one [email protected] guy said that ryougi shiki cant kill thiongs???? i mean wtF?? as you see in movie 5 or 6 of garden of sinners she killed a lock!!

BTW I said V.Akiha(Tohno Shikis sister) could kill things the moments she see them,literally.For exapmple,if I had her eye powers I could make you explode the moment I see your figure.But I guess you wouldn't know because you haven't read the Visual Novel.
I haven't said anything against [email protected]
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