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True Love Only in Christianity?
Posted 1/28/09
meaning true love for the christian God? Yes

Personally I think I can find the right guy for me without god pointing who's the best. It's much more fun that way isn't it?
I don't believe in know-it-all gods, so I don't think that they would really be able to choose the right one for me. Every action that I take can change my future, therefore the gods can't foresee which is gonna be the guy, since they cant have 100% control over me. That's what I believe in, hence it is my reality.
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Actually there is....well maybe not in any kind of religous book but there is something as the two quotes above in the teachings of Christians. Note that teachings does not have tobe simply what is written in the bible, it is more into the meaning behind the words in the bible. I'll try to explain the two quotes:

"The Lord helps thse who help themselves": this saying means that God helps those who give effort into what they are doing. So you can't pray to God, asking for his blessings so that your problems can be solved while you yourself do not try to solve the problem. In the process of your work God will give his blessings.

"Lords power works in mysterious ways": The closest I can get to this one is that "God's work sometimes can't be comprehended by the human mind's logic". Sometimes when we asks for God's blessing, we sometimes say that God is not giving his blessing at all because all we've experience are bad things while actually God is actually giving is blessing. It's just that his way of helping takes a long route/process so we can't see his good intentions behind his actions.

I know this is weird I know, I just don't know how to explain these two quotes better. Sry if this doesn't make sense
Posted 1/28/09
I think if people love each other, gods will or not, it won't matter.

Funny is; that you're saying that only "perfect" love is the love of gods will, so Christians or not if love is deep then it's gods will.

I don't believe in an all knowing god though(no offense), but shit happens.
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Posted 1/28/09
well i think theres a simple
solution for soul mate
the one who fits you most and looks
at your heart because is
alike theirs...
i think thtas a soul mate
but in different words(:
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Posted 1/28/09

-Turbo- wrote:


impala1 wrote:


-Turbo- wrote:

They say when people seek relationships..
they either find Gods "Perfect will" which will have his 'blessing' on it
as the person he brought you together with, with purpose.
Or they find his "permissable will" which has no promise or guarantee
which is when he just allows you to do your own thing..

Hmm...True?


While it's very temping to call this is a total pant-load, I'm going to refrain. "Perfect will" and "Permissable will"? So, I'll bet the meaning behind what you're being told is that if the relationship works out, it was "perfect will". If not, it was "permissable will". Vauge statements like this always bothered me about being raised a christian. Just like:"The lords power works in mysterious ways" or "The lord helps those who help themselves". If I did it myself, I very well didn't need his help now did I? This is the same kind of crap that was shoved on me when I was forced to attend sunday school. Also the reason why I skipped out as much as possible.



Both quotes you used "lords power works in mysterious ways" and "the lord helps those who help themselves"
are both secular sayings that have no biblical roots, or any roots in any other religious book.


Okay.....The root of the mentioned sayings is of no importance. I intended to use them as an example to illistrate what a "cop-out" the idea of a perfect will relationship and permissable one are. These are the responses I received when I asked why something had happened as a kid. Those sayings are also open to personal interpretation as well. I guess I'm not grasping why god would bless one relationship and simply permit another. Help me out here, riddle me this: What is your defenition of "perfect will" and "permissable will" relationships?



Posted 1/28/09

impala1 wrote:


-Turbo- wrote:


impala1 wrote:


-Turbo- wrote:

They say when people seek relationships..
they either find Gods "Perfect will" which will have his 'blessing' on it
as the person he brought you together with, with purpose.
Or they find his "permissable will" which has no promise or guarantee
which is when he just allows you to do your own thing..

Hmm...True?


While it's very temping to call this is a total pant-load, I'm going to refrain. "Perfect will" and "Permissable will"? So, I'll bet the meaning behind what you're being told is that if the relationship works out, it was "perfect will". If not, it was "permissable will". Vauge statements like this always bothered me about being raised a christian. Just like:"The lords power works in mysterious ways" or "The lord helps those who help themselves". If I did it myself, I very well didn't need his help now did I? This is the same kind of crap that was shoved on me when I was forced to attend sunday school. Also the reason why I skipped out as much as possible.



Both quotes you used "lords power works in mysterious ways" and "the lord helps those who help themselves"
are both secular sayings that have no biblical roots, or any roots in any other religious book.


Okay.....The root of the mentioned sayings is of no importance. I intended to use them as an example to illistrate what a "cop-out" the idea of a perfect will relationship and permissable one are. These are the responses I received when I asked why something had happened as a kid. Those sayings are also open to personal interpretation as well. I guess I'm not grasping why god would bless one relationship and simply permit another. Help me out here, riddle me this: What is your defenition of "perfect will" and "permissable will" relationships?




According to the faith, its because to an extent your allowed the option to govern yourself if you wish instead.

Posted 1/28/09
hmm... God guides us wherever we go, which ever path we take, and definitely wont lead us to harm/evil... but it's up to that person to find the person that is made only for him/her... If maybe you entered in a not so good relationship, it's up to you to hold your faith and belief and actually work on improving or making your relationship better with the person you love.. and God will help you through it..

that's what i think.. i hope i'm not off topic >.<
Posted 1/28/09 , edited 1/28/09

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Actually there is....well maybe not in any kind of religous book but there is something as the two quotes above in the teachings of Christians. Note that teachings does not have tobe simply what is written in the bible, it is more into the meaning behind the words in the bible. I'll try to explain the two quotes:

"The Lord helps thse who help themselves": this saying means that God helps those who give effort into what they are doing. So you can't pray to God, asking for his blessings so that your problems can be solved while you yourself do not try to solve the problem. In the process of your work God will give his blessings.

"Lords power works in mysterious ways": The closest I can get to this one is that "God's work sometimes can't be comprehended by the human mind's logic". Sometimes when we asks for God's blessing, we sometimes say that God is not giving his blessing at all because all we've experience are bad things while actually God is actually giving is blessing. It's just that his way of helping takes a long route/process so we can't see his good intentions behind his actions.

I know this is weird I know, I just don't know how to explain these two quotes better. Sry if this doesn't make sense



According to christianity all of their teachings have to be based in their scriptures.
If you can find any of those sayings in their book quote me.
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I Am My Reality and God is a result of my Realising my Awerness Or "Reality"so in essence i Am my own God

Focus and you too could become a God
Posted 1/28/09
I don't care God real or not , I don't want anyone to interfere with my love life and decide for me .
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Posted 1/28/09 , edited 1/28/09
"True love only in Christianity?"

LOL...ROTFLOL...that's like saying Myspace, Facebook, and Internet forums are the only websites with bogus activity...lol.
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Posted 1/28/09
Personally i think not people have been falling in love fine without the aid of Christianity or its practices.
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Kaisin wrote:

Personally i think not people have been falling in love fine without the aid of Christianity or its practices.


topic says whether you believe or not..
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Posted 1/29/09


sure, I'll ask my riest tomorrow if their is such stuff written in the bible
and yes, I was saying that the teachings are written in the bible is just that, there a deeper meaning behind thee written text
ahhhh, I know I'm stupid at explaining sry if u don't understand@_@

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Posted 1/29/09

-Turbo- wrote:

If your raging athiest, or some other religious extremist..
IGNORE No God or Religion bashing nesesary.
Topic for mature people who can discuss without being offensive or falling
into a rants and rages no one cares about..



I learned something new in skol....

Because of sin and evil in the world...
Christians dont necessarily believe in whats called a "soul mate"

The believe in finding the person who is best for you..
which can really only be done by God (since he knows all)
who doesn't judge by appearance like man but "looks at the heart"

They say when people seek relationships..
they either find Gods "Perfect will" which will have his 'blessing' on it
as the person he brought you together with, with purpose.
EDIT: thats reguardless of whether you believe in him or not

Or they find his "permissable will" which has no promise or guarantee
which is when he just allows you to do your own thing..

Hmm...True?




fuck u (only that i can say about u)
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