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Why do most girls like yaoi?
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Posted 4/4/13 , edited 4/5/13
The same reason most dudes love Yuri. Would you rather watch two dicks or one dick? It's very simple. I suppose those gals aren't really interested in seeing a naked lady so two naked dudes makes them more excited, though some people like to place themselves in the role of that person.
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It's...all about the forbidden love...all about the goosebumps we get when we see those of the same gender commit the ultimate crime...love...at least that's what I think...


I hate to rain on your parade, but that's dumb as shit. A homosexual relationship is as natural as a heterosexual relationship, there ain't anything forbidden about it. Except maybe that there's ignorant people out there who want two people who love each other to not, despite how much it doesn't affect their own lives, just because it's against their beliefs or something.
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HellaStrider wrote:


MentalPowPow wrote:

It's...all about the forbidden love...all about the goosebumps we get when we see those of the same gender commit the ultimate crime...love...at least that's what I think...


I hate to rain on your parade, but that's dumb as shit. A homosexual relationship is as natural as a heterosexual relationship, there ain't anything forbidden about it. Except maybe that there's ignorant people out there who want two people who love each other to not, despite how much it doesn't affect their own lives, just because it's against their beliefs or something.


It doesn't rain on my parade. I, too, believe that there is nothing forbidden about it but I put we as in I am the same gender. It's stupid but hey go ask some girl and I know they will say something of the similar context. Some people think it's forbidden, others don't. I don't like to ruin others fantasies so I just typed that. It's really not dumb when you think about it. To most who lived "normal" lives they think whatever is different is exotic or forbidden....But don't worry next time I comment about sexuality I will use your opinion as a note I learned.
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Posted 4/5/13

MentalPowPow wrote:


HellaStrider wrote:


MentalPowPow wrote:

It's...all about the forbidden love...all about the goosebumps we get when we see those of the same gender commit the ultimate crime...love...at least that's what I think...


I hate to rain on your parade, but that's dumb as shit. A homosexual relationship is as natural as a heterosexual relationship, there ain't anything forbidden about it. Except maybe that there's ignorant people out there who want two people who love each other to not, despite how much it doesn't affect their own lives, just because it's against their beliefs or something.


It doesn't rain on my parade. I, too, believe that there is nothing forbidden about it but I put we as in I am the same gender. It's stupid but hey go ask some girl and I know they will say something of the similar context. Some people think it's forbidden, others don't. I don't like to ruin others fantasies so I just typed that. It's really not dumb when you think about it. To most who lived "normal" lives they think whatever is different is exotic or forbidden....But don't worry next time I comment about sexuality I will use your opinion as a note I learned. :)


I have nothing against people who enjoy queer relationships; it's just the mentality that what they're watching is something wrong or to be looked down upon really irks me because think how it affects real queer relationships. It's pretty effective at pushing the whole movement back a step. I understand that it may be hard to put yourself in their shoes but it's kind of disrespectful when they're trying their hardest to fit in and have their sexuality not get in the way of their personality while others just attach this stereotypical flamboyant personality I see, the whole concept of uke/seme, and how hot it is because it's "forbidden." But maybe for the lack of a better word, you're trying to say the excitement is in watching their struggles to be accepted for their love despite how much society is against it. I'm glad you're trying to look at a different view now though.
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What is the big deal? It is the same as a boy and girl liking eachother. Sooooo why can't i watch it normally like i watch heterosexual shows? The fact that i am a girl is irrelevant. I watch it because i enjoy it, same as all the other non-yaoi shows.
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Speaking as a female, I'm assuming it's because it's a story involving two good-looking men falling in love, because every girl wants a handsome male in their life, and a romantic element is always a welcome addition for most people.

Let's face it. Not nearly as enough girls would watch yaoi if it was about two less-than-average-looking men falling in love.
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My personal reasoning is that a lot of women women like men who are romantic, gentle, empathetic, and intelligent.


Then why is it that so much yaoi focuses on a horrifically unbalanced Seme/Uke dynamic in which the seme forces/coerces the weaker uke into sex/relationships/etc.? I swear there's an inordinate amount of yaoi that could be mistaken for a gay Japanese version of 50 Shades of Grey.


I have to mention that I've personally not seen many yaoi. Thinking about it, I believe the only anime I've watched with any male on male action was OHSHC with the Hitachiin brothers.

My guess would be that women might wish for a partner who would do anything for them/to get them/keep them in a relationship. Same would go for devotion and faithfulness. Anyone would like to feel cherished, chased after and admired. That might be the reason. But like I said, I'm not sure what exactly you mean by, e.g. "horrifically unbalanced", due to my lack of experience in that genre.
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Anime4always14 wrote:

What is the big deal? It is the same as a boy and girl liking eachother. Sooooo why can't i watch it normally like i watch heterosexual shows? The fact that i am a girl is irrelevant. I watch it because i enjoy it, same as all the other non-yaoi shows.


Absolutely loving your answer!
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SeraphimAda wrote:

But like I said, I'm not sure what exactly you mean by, e.g. "horrifically unbalanced", due to my lack of experience in that genre.


It's basically like I said, 50 Shades of Grey/Twilight esque relationships were the dominant partner forces/coerces the weaker partner into doing whatever they want regardless of whether or not they have their consent. Even if there isn't the whole "rape as love" thing you've usually got the weaker of the two, the uke, following/being dragged along by the often abusive seme with little to no input all the while fawning over him because being emotionally manipulative is sexy. When the uke inevitably falls for the seme they often come across like an abused child with Stockholm syndrome.
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Posted 4/7/13
Oh well... let the people like what they like. No one is empowered to judge one others tasts.
For me its quite obvious. I would rather see two girls playing the game than two boys
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Well, yaoi is generally drawn by women for women. It's very rare that you'll actually find a guy who is attracted to men who likes yaoi.

It's romanticized image of what a homosexual male couple would look and act like, that is specifically made to appeal to women. As a homosexual male, I've never found yaoi appealing, nor have I ever really found it to be an accurate representation of what most gay couples are actually like. For one, all of the guys tend to be very prettyboy-ish, which is just not attractive to me at all, because they essentially almost look like girls. Plus the whole Seme/Uke thing is just not how most couples work, and it's really just there because writers of yaoi basically try to take a heterosexual couple, but then replace the girl with an equally effeminate girl. In reality, you will very rarely find homosexual male couples that have one partner who is far more masculine than the other. We're usually kind of drawn to guys who are similar to us in size, body type, personality, etc.

So yeah, it's just made to appeal to women.
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Posted 4/8/13
Fetishes.

Straight women love that D.
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Posted 4/9/13

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SeraphimAda wrote:

But like I said, I'm not sure what exactly you mean by, e.g. "horrifically unbalanced", due to my lack of experience in that genre.


It's basically like I said, 50 Shades of Grey/Twilight esque relationships were the dominant partner forces/coerces the weaker partner into doing whatever they want regardless of whether or not they have their consent. Even if there isn't the whole "rape as love" thing you've usually got the weaker of the two, the uke, following/being dragged along by the often abusive seme with little to no input all the while fawning over him because being emotionally manipulative is sexy. When the uke inevitably falls for the seme they often come across like an abused child with Stockholm syndrome.


There's also the point that the fact that fans think there HAS to be a seme/uke in every homosexual relationship is pretty damn ignorant. It's like their mindset can't get out of the thought that there doesn't have to be a man and a woman in each relationship; there couldn't possibly exist one where there were two men or two women. I don't judge them for having fetishes, but I just can't stand when they start thinking they're actually helping the gay cause or something, especially not when they're essentially erasing actual homosexual relationships in their portrayals in manga/shows.
Posted 4/9/13
My brother got me into it (cause he's gay lol)... I became addicted to it
And because they show more love and passion than regular couples. :3
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Pomff wrote:


SeraphimAda wrote:

But like I said, I'm not sure what exactly you mean by, e.g. "horrifically unbalanced", due to my lack of experience in that genre.


It's basically like I said, 50 Shades of Grey/Twilight esque relationships were the dominant partner forces/coerces the weaker partner into doing whatever they want regardless of whether or not they have their consent. Even if there isn't the whole "rape as love" thing you've usually got the weaker of the two, the uke, following/being dragged along by the often abusive seme with little to no input all the while fawning over him because being emotionally manipulative is sexy. When the uke inevitably falls for the seme they often come across like an abused child with Stockholm syndrome.


This concept is not exclusive to yaoi. The whole anime Amnesia, for example, revolves around a worthless female (who could stand in as the uke) and a couple of guys she has relationships with. Without getting too much into the story line, some of those guys basically "abuse" her and even lock her up in a cage. In the end, she comes across like someone with Stockholm syndrome, just like you said.

I believe there are underlying psychological reasons for finding these scenarios attractive. I have looked into this a little due to this thread but there is surprisingly little research on it and I can't read any Japanese, so I can't look there...
I have the slight suspicion, that it feels "safer" for women to watch two men in these kind of situations than a man/woman, which would remind us more of abuse.

I personally haven't seen any "hardcore" yaoi and don't really care to, either. I enjoy romance a lot and don't care whether it is hetero- or homosexual. But that's a different story, it seems.
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