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Why do most girls like yaoi?
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There's also the point that the fact that fans think there HAS to be a seme/uke in every homosexual relationship is pretty damn ignorant. It's like their mindset can't get out of the thought that there doesn't have to be a man and a woman in each relationship; there couldn't possibly exist one where there were two men or two women. I don't judge them for having fetishes, but I just can't stand when they start thinking they're actually helping the gay cause or something, especially not when they're essentially erasing actual homosexual relationships in their portrayals in manga/shows.


I really don't think that anyone would believe they're "helping the gay cause" by watching yaoi. That's just demented. So are people, thinking that they can educate themselves on homosexual relationships (and heterosexual ones likewise) by watching anime.
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There's also the point that the fact that fans think there HAS to be a seme/uke in every homosexual relationship is pretty damn ignorant. It's like their mindset can't get out of the thought that there doesn't have to be a man and a woman in each relationship; there couldn't possibly exist one where there were two men or two women. I don't judge them for having fetishes, but I just can't stand when they start thinking they're actually helping the gay cause or something, especially not when they're essentially erasing actual homosexual relationships in their portrayals in manga/shows.


I really don't think that anyone would believe they're "helping the gay cause" by watching yaoi. That's just demented. So are people, thinking that they can educate themselves on homosexual relationships (and heterosexual ones likewise) by watching anime.


You have no idea how many fangirls I see who attack others as being homophobic for not supporting their gay otp or actually posting how they wish gay marriage would be legalized so that their otps can get married. There's more but that already gives you an idea how detrimental their support is. Haha, that last part reminds me of how I used to have a friend who wanted to do foreign affairs/international business and learned Japanese through anime rather than attempting to go outside getting actual classes and learning from real guides. She had a quite broken understanding of the language and probably picked up strange slang.
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You have no idea how many fangirls I see who attack others as being homophobic for not supporting their gay otp or actually posting how they wish gay marriage would be legalized so that their otps can get married. There's more but that already gives you an idea how detrimental their support is. Haha, that last part reminds me of how I used to have a friend who wanted to do foreign affairs/international business and learned Japanese through anime rather than attempting to go outside getting actual classes and learning from real guides. She had a quite broken understanding of the language and probably picked up strange slang.


While I do believe that marriage equality is very important, I don't really see any connection to yaoi. It is mostly by women, for women. I'm sure there are the occasional male watchers but that doesn't mean they're gay. Nor do I see any connection between anime genre and sexual orientation or gender identity. Making these correlations is rather ignorant. But what's new, right?

About your other point, I can understand that someone would hope to pick up a language by just watching some tv. It is imagined to be effortless and intertwined with something fun. I wish learning a language was that easy. It took many years for me to learn proper English... grammar, tenses and lots of irregular verbs. Not fun but necessary. But hey, at least she made an effort, right?!
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You have no idea how many fangirls I see who attack others as being homophobic for not supporting their gay otp or actually posting how they wish gay marriage would be legalized so that their otps can get married. There's more but that already gives you an idea how detrimental their support is. Haha, that last part reminds me of how I used to have a friend who wanted to do foreign affairs/international business and learned Japanese through anime rather than attempting to go outside getting actual classes and learning from real guides. She had a quite broken understanding of the language and probably picked up strange slang.


While I do believe that marriage equality is very important, I don't really see any connection to yaoi. It is mostly by women, for women. I'm sure there are the occasional male watchers but that doesn't mean they're gay. Nor do I see any connection between anime genre and sexual orientation or gender identity. Making these correlations is rather ignorant. But what's new, right?

About your other point, I can understand that someone would hope to pick up a language by just watching some tv. It is imagined to be effortless and intertwined with something fun. I wish learning a language was that easy. It took many years for me to learn proper English... grammar, tenses and lots of irregular verbs. Not fun but necessary. But hey, at least she made an effort, right?!


I did not mean that that specific case was the default for all the blatantly bad fangirlism(i use this as a neutral noun) I see in people who ship homosexual characters, but that it was a case of people making the homosexual struggles/movement a place for their own feelings about their otps rather than concern about the actual issues. I may be getting a bit less off track of simply yaoi but fans of homosexual relationships of all medias. But the fallacious ideas incorporated in most yaoi are what stick with the fans and that is how they approach actual homosexual relationships. I'm only criticizing the fans that cannot separate reality and fantasy.
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I did not mean that that specific case was the default for all the blatantly bad fangirlism(i use this as a neutral noun) I see in people who ship homosexual characters, but that it was a case of people making the homosexual struggles/movement a place for their own feelings about their otps rather than concern about the actual issues. I may be getting a bit less off track of simply yaoi but fans of homosexual relationships of all medias. But the fallacious ideas incorporated in most yaoi are what stick with the fans and that is how they approach actual homosexual relationships. I'm only criticizing the fans that cannot separate reality and fantasy.


Don't worry, we're on the same page! Sorry, if I came across a bit harsh.... it wasn't directed at you!
What I am basically trying to say is, that I do understand that some people might watch anime/yaoi and admire some of the traits a character might exhibit and daydream about how it would be if their real-life partner might act in the same manner.
What I don't understand is, if people make these traits a prerequisite or something along that line. It's delusional.
I believe that yaoi has a very extensive psychological aspect that I'm not qualified to discuss. So who knows.

Personally, I don't care about the sex of the characters. Romance is romance and I enjoy it thoroughly. It has me daydreaming, like I mentioned above.
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Wait. Girls like yaoi?
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yaoi is more.....nvm.....i donno....\
my friend reads yaoi....O_O and she showed it to me.....
and.......nvm.
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There is a great analysis of the subject presented here by Natalia Batista:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IzJqG_7uH14

It's a bit annoying that the audience seems kind of immature and loud at times, but if you can overlook that it surely is an interesting watch, even for those who don't particularly like yaoi. I haven't even read any yaoi at all since I was about 15 (I'm 19 now), but still thought it gave a great point of view to things you never thought about before.
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Posted 4/11/13
I don't know why. All we can be pretty sure of is that you're all probably going to hell...

I hear Otaku Hell is pretty Yaoi.
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I think it's because it's taboo and 2 hot guys
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