christmas/happy holidays controversy
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Posted 12/16/07
People try to change christmas into the phrase "happy holidays" for the people who don't believe in Jesus. I believe its sorta stupid because if your so offended about people say merry christmas, then don't celebrate christmas at all. If you were to give gifts during the "holidays" then what IS the point of giving gifts (in christmas you give gifts cuz of the three wise men thing) I mean personally, i'd rather have someone say merry christmas when giving me a gift than saying happy holidays. My religion might be affected with my judgement, but what do you guys think
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Um...I'm not sure if you know this but Christmas is probably not Christian's birthday Apparently, my friend told me this a while back, a long time ago, December 25th use to be a holiday for another big religious thing. But these people wanted everyone to believe in Jesus but were afraid they were too use to celebrating on December 24th/25th, so they made December 25th Jesus's B-day. Happy Holidays can refer to more than just Christmas, it could be Hanukkah or something. Holidays = Celebration time. Including, Halloween, etc. Although people instantly assume its Christmas with that phrase. People give gifts even if they don't believe in Christian, hence the "Who really rules Christmas? Jesus or Santa?" topic. So overall, I really couldn't care less if someone was to say "Happy Holidays" when giving me a gift instead of, "Merry Christmas."
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as I heard it is a romen holiday that got maid in to a christion holiday wen rome become christion I think it is right mabye I should look it up
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This reminds me of a couple years ago at my church, someone was complaining about how people wrote X-Mas instead of Christmas and said that they were purposely trying to take out the Christ so that Christmas wasn't affiliated with religion or something like that.

I don't really mind if someone says happy holidays instead of merry Christmas or writes X-Mas on their Christmas cards because not everyone is religious or even celebrates Christmas anyways.
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everybody seems don't know the meaning of X-mas... it's marking Christ a X mark... or deleting Christ from Christmas, its very rude and immoral, so next time don't say merry X-mas it should be Merry Christmas... except if you are an atheist..

by the way it doesn't matter for me if someone says happy holidays or Merry Christmas.. as long as it came from their hearts... no plasticity
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Posted 12/20/07
i'm fine w/ people saying happy holidays but i celebrate Christmas and i say Merry Christmas
also i think that you should be able to say Merry Chistmas, Happy Hnukkah, or whatever you celebrate w/out people getting offended
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Posted 12/20/07

anime_otaku-nerd wrote:

Um...I'm not sure if you know this but Christmas is probably not Christian's birthday Apparently, my friend told me this a while back, a long time ago, December 25th use to be a holiday for another big religious thing. But these people wanted everyone to believe in Jesus but were afraid they were too use to celebrating on December 24th/25th, so they made December 25th Jesus's B-day. Happy Holidays can refer to more than just Christmas, it could be Hanukkah or something. Holidays = Celebration time. Including, Halloween, etc. Although people instantly assume its Christmas with that phrase. People give gifts even if they don't believe in Christian, hence the "Who really rules Christmas? Jesus or Santa?" topic. So overall, I really couldn't care less if someone was to say "Happy Holidays" when giving me a gift instead of, "Merry Christmas."


Scientifically speaking it was not, sadly. The true meaning of christmas was the visitation of the three kings, it wasnt necessarily Jesus's birth, that is why some of us christians who knows, celebrate it as thanksgiving to the three kings who gave Jesus gifts, and as noted, it is to celebrate the birth of Jesus, I think there is no harm on celebrating a day of someone's birth even if it is really not. And I think that the christians created Santa to distract people from saying and asking " Dec. 25 is not Jesus's birthday?(!)"

~ To thread starter, they changed it to happy holidays especially in the United States since the country has no main religion, and people everywhere have different religions, so they try to be fair and not be one sided.
~ In some countries, like maybe Spain and Philippines, true believers of Christianism, they would refer to it as Christmas Day....
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i think this topics is comfsuing me but anyways i celebrate it
Posted 12/20/07
i dont think it matters how people say it.. x)
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Posted 12/20/07
doesnt matter..........call it whatever you want as long as ur happy about it
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Posted 12/20/07
what does giving gifts have to do with christmas ne ways?
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Posted 12/20/07
Here's a list of the holidays during this time of year:
* Hanukkah (Jewish) -- Begins at sundown on December 4 (ends December 12)
* Saint Nicholas Day (Christian) -- December 6
* Ramadan -- Began September 13
* Eid al-Fitr (Muslim) -- October 13
* Fiesta of Our Lady of Guadalupe (Mexican) -- December 12
* St. Lucia Day (Swedish) -- December 13
* Christmas (Christian) -- December 25
* Boxing Day (Australian, Canadian, English, Irish) -- December 26
* Kwanzaa (African American) -- December 26 to January 1
* Omisoka (Japanese) -- December 31
* Eid'ul-Adha (Muslim) -- December 20-22
* Epiphany (Christian) -- January 6
* New Year - January 1
* Winter Solstice (Northern Hemisphere) - December 22
So, I cheat and simply say "Happy Holidays". (Frankly, I'd celebrate all of them if it meant that I'm excused from doing normal everyday drudgery.)
By the way, I think anime_otaku-nerd is referring to "Saturnalia", which ancient Romans celebrated in the middle of December, in homage to the god, Saturn. (Gads, still remember what I learned in Latin class eons ago.)
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Posted 12/29/07
When I'm texting my friends or something quick like that I use X-mas. not to take Christ out, but because I'm lazy
I celebrate Christmas religiously, so I go to church and all that, but I don't do it because I think Dec25 is the day JC was born. I do it because I'm glad He was born and that's my way of honoring His birth.
But I do like getting presents
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