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well basically I'm not altering my own time line... hmmmmm... Lets explain the concept of Time Travel shall we^^

The Grandfather paradox:

Suppose you could go back in time, lets say several decades and found your grandfather when he was two years old. In his house you could grab a knife and stab him to death. He doesn't get the chance to have children with your grandmother. Therefore either your mother or father doesn't get born. Your parents can't give birth to you because one of them don't exist. You could never have been born and don't even exist. But could your grandfather have been killed by someone who doesn't exist? He must have lived through his childhood. This would allow you to exist if this is the case. Seemingly you can go back in time to commit the murder if you are born but then you would never have been born. And so on and so on. This situation is not consistent with itself. It doesn't make sense and can't possibly happen.

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A parallel universe might be created when you seem to change the past. Imagine if time itself was just like a tree. The different branches show different ways events could have happened. Every time we decide to do or not to do something time splits. Even if we are not aware we decided something it have affects. Quantum physics reveals a many worlds theory like this.

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Since this parallel universe is not really your past (despite it's first appearance) anything you do there does not affect you. You can prevent a version of yourself from being born because you are not really related to anyone there. They just look very like your family and friends. You are not home! You may be somewhere that looks like the place you live but a different universe in quantum physics is a completely different reality.

- explanation courtesy of John Titor (A fellow time traveller from the future)

Of coarse this is classified information that no esper, alien or menial-tasking human must know... Peace^^
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Then I would share the Nuclear Bomb technology to the Nazi! Hahaha!!! Boom Boom Boom!!!

HAIL HITLER!
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silentxeifer wrote:

well basically I'm not altering my own time line... hmmmmm... Lets explain the concept of Time Travel shall we^^

The Grandfather paradox:

Suppose you could go back in time, lets say several decades and found your grandfather when he was two years old. In his house you could grab a knife and stab him to death. He doesn't get the chance to have children with your grandmother. Therefore either your mother or father doesn't get born. Your parents can't give birth to you because one of them don't exist. You could never have been born and don't even exist. But could your grandfather have been killed by someone who doesn't exist? He must have lived through his childhood. This would allow you to exist if this is the case. Seemingly you can go back in time to commit the murder if you are born but then you would never have been born. And so on and so on. This situation is not consistent with itself. It doesn't make sense and can't possibly happen.

Solutions:

A parallel universe might be created when you seem to change the past. Imagine if time itself was just like a tree. The different branches show different ways events could have happened. Every time we decide to do or not to do something time splits. Even if we are not aware we decided something it have affects. Quantum physics reveals a many worlds theory like this.

Conclusion:

Since this parallel universe is not really your past (despite it's first appearance) anything you do there does not affect you. You can prevent a version of yourself from being born because you are not really related to anyone there. They just look very like your family and friends. You are not home! You may be somewhere that looks like the place you live but a different universe in quantum physics is a completely different reality.

- explanation courtesy of John Titor (A fellow time traveller from the future)

Of coarse this is classified information that no esper, alien or menial-tasking human must know... Peace^^


I see you're point but you'd still be altering the time line by creating a parallel universe where you're never born though it doesnt directly effect you, It could destroy this alternative universe you created, It could kill millions in anothers timeline, you wouldn''t feel even a little responsible for creating that universe
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no... quite the opposite really ^_^ since its still a hypothetical scenario as well... in some way I could be saving other people's lives as well... I could have stopped a mass murderer from being born or prevented the eruption of another world war...

Whether or not I could alter another alternate universe... Nothing would happen! That universe would not end and there are no paradox problems that could threaten existence. Temporal space-time is made up of every possible quantum state. so in saying that: "Every possible thing that can happen or will happen has already happened" so maybe If I didn't do it... some alternate "me" in another universe would be otherwise... I hope you get what I mean to say... ^_^
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i agree that anything is possible! Everything is possible for us time travelers!!!
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silentxeifer wrote:

no... quite the opposite really ^_^ since its still a hypothetical scenario as well... in some way I could be saving other people's lives as well... I could have stopped a mass murderer from being born or prevented the eruption of another world war...

Whether or not I could alter another alternate universe... Nothing would happen! That universe would not end and there are no paradox problems that could threaten existence. Temporal space-time is made up of every possible quantum state. so in saying that: "Every possible thing that can happen or will happen has already happened" so maybe If I didn't do it... some alternate "me" in another universe would be otherwise... I hope you get what I mean to say... ^_^


I do get what you say, but there are many therories about this complex cycle of time, and heck we time travelers got all the time in the world, so lets leave this as, time is complex and should not be messed with by those aliens or espers, lets keep these timely secrets within the realm of other time travelers
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Posted 2/19/08
i think what you two are saying can't really be proven. logically both your theories are possible. it's like a question of destiny...
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hokorioni wrote:

i think what you two are saying can't really be proven. logically both your theories are possible. it's like a question of destiny...


And we have all the time in the universe to fingure it out
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Posted 2/20/08
luckily, we're time travelers. we never run out of time, hehehe
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Posted 2/26/08
but that depends on what suzumiya do
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Posted 2/26/08
first off, do you mean "depends on what she does". and secondly sure I loved the anime, but shes not a time traveler.
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and she doesn't know, anyway that time travelers really exist... her common sense does not permit her to do so.
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hokorioni wrote:

Then I would share the Nuclear Bomb technology to the Nazi! Hahaha!!! Boom Boom Boom!!!

HAIL HITLER!


omg don't talk about hitler here you know what he did!
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Posted 3/4/08
I as a fellow time traverler do not support mr hitler
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sorry, I am terribly sorry if I offended anyone...
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