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Is Taiwan belong to China?
Posted 6/14/09
I just came back to this fourm, because I found it. And recently, I've seen some films that China have made, which to me seems really nasty. They literally bully them using the media! Turning people against them, does it count as properganda?
Posted 6/16/09 , edited 6/16/09
台灣與中國應該不算一國吧? 一邊是"中華人民共和國"(中國)﹐另一邊是"中華民國"(台灣)﹐都是不同的政府。不過台灣好像也不算是一個國家﹐聯合國與中國也不承認台灣是個國家﹐應該算是自治區吧? 在奧運﹐台灣奧運的代表隊也並不稱為"台灣隊"﹐而是"中華台北隊"!
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Posted 6/21/09 , edited 6/21/09

246858 wrote:

台灣與中國應該不算一國吧? 一邊是"中華人民共和國"(中國)﹐另一邊是"中華民國"(台灣)﹐都是不同的政府。不過台灣好像也不算是一個國家﹐聯合國與中國也不承認台灣是個國家﹐應該算是自治區吧? 在奧運﹐台灣奧運的代表隊也並不稱為"台灣隊"﹐而是"中華台北隊"!



Yes, it's all very complicated and neither side is definitively "right." The PRC (People's Replublic of China) aka communist party claims Taiwan as part of China and if I recall correctly, the ROC (Republic of China) claimed itself to be the official governmental party for mainland China and Taiwan.

Even if you look at history, it's still convoluted and full of grey areas. China lost Taiwan to Japan during the first Sino-Japanese War in ~1895. Japan relinquished rule over Taiwan back to the ROC after they lost World War II. Cue the Chinese Civil War (~1949) between the communists (PRC) and ROC/Kuomintang (KMT). The Communists forced the ROC to relocate/retreat to Taiwan. Taipei becomes the headquaters for the ROC/KMT government, and they govern Taiwan as a party-state dictatorship. The Communists (PRC) claimed to be the sole representative government of China including Taiwan and considered the ROC government as an illegitimate entity. The ROC government in Taiwan continued to claim sovereignty China as well.

The ROC gradually liberalized and democratized; then, in 1986 the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) was formed in Taiwan as an opposing political party to the KMT. Because of democratization, in 1996 Lee Teng-Hui was the first president of Taiwan to be elected by popular vote. Chen Shui-bian of the DPP party was elected in 2000 (horrible fake tan and all), and again in 2004. During his terms as president there was a new constitution for an "independent" Taiwan, and he also pushed for the eventual formal declaration of Taiwan independence, and for Taiwan to be officially known as "Taiwan" instead of the "Republic of China."

Which brings us to the present, with Ma Ying-jeou of the KMT party being elected in 2008. Who's stance on the China-Taiwan issue is better ties with Mainland China under a policy of "mutual nondenial;" basically meaning the status-quo where Taiwan will not officially declare independence, nor will Taiwan acknowledge Mainland China's claim on Taiwan, just as Mainland China does not acknowledge Taiwan as being independent.

It's all terribly confusing with both sides claiming to be the "official" government. Personally, I'm fine with the status-quo, but ideally I'd like for an official declaration of Taiwan independence, though Mainland China's military posturing to prevent such actions is a little daunting, especially since the PRC has publicly stated that they will use any military force necessary to prevent Taiwan from ever seceding. Not to mention the numerous occasions where the PRC performed military maneuvers and tested nuclear capable missiles along the Taiwan Strait to intimidate Taiwan.

I think most people in Taiwan are content with things as they are now as well. They neither want to be part of the PRC as a SAR (like Hong Kong/Macau) nor do they want an official declaration of independence--probably because of fear of PRC retaliation.

Hrm. Didn't intend for this post to turn into an essay of sorts. Ah, well.
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Posted 6/21/09
yes or no....i stilll think they are the same...they r all chinese
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Posted 6/22/09
no but for somereason china (or the majority of the hokko)people belive we still are
for ex. in the china version of axis powers hetila vol. 2 in taiwan profile its says she is also part of china but it is not incluled in all the other versions
Posted 6/24/09
i dunno
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Posted 6/28/09
i think china will take back taiwan one day.
provided that united states dun intervene
Posted 6/28/09
yea, i think so??
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Posted 6/29/09
I would say so, since Taiwan hasn't been recognized as a country by alot of countries
in my opinion, a country isn't a country until the original country (which is China in this case) actually recognize the new country as a country
(not that I don't want Taiwan to be a country, I am Taiwanese too it just doesn't work if you just declare yourself as a country and you automatically turn into one just because you say so...)
Posted 6/29/09
i think so
Posted 7/11/09
What is 'Neither' ?
btw, anser is No.
Posted 7/11/09
What is 'Neither' ?
btw, answer is No.
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Posted 7/11/09
yes or no don't really work... neither was the best choice. taiwan is not an independent country as only 23 countries in the world officially recognize it as separate from china. none of those 23 countries have any major power/say in global affairs. the UN doesn't recognize taiwan either. also china claims that it owns taiwan but... other then saying it they really have no control on taiwan's diplomatic relations with other countries. however china's claim was strong enough to make the rest of the world recognize mainland china as the only china so... taiwan's status in my opinion is blurry.
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Posted 7/19/09
No.

China is a part Taiwan! Bahaha >=D
Posted 7/30/09
nahh... they not connected >.<
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