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Is Taiwan belong to China?
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Posted 11/20/09
Of course not. =/
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Posted 12/1/09
China are commies that wanna eat Taiwan. Go democracy!
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Posted 12/1/09
it is replubic of china..isnt it?
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Posted 12/6/09
NOOOOO .Taiwan is not belong to China....
BUT ,maybe 1 day Taiwan would sold to China.
So wad if its ROC???
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taiwan is definitely it's own country!!!
taiwan is not communist while China is
taiwan has it's own government that's free to do as it wishes; if china were to take over, then taiwan would most likely be communist too
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Posted 1/1/10
no
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Posted 1/5/10
i say yes.
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Posted 1/8/10

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chicasuerte22 wrote:

I don't know. I know that Mandrian is used quite frequently but was mandrian forced onto the taiwanese or did the taiwanese have their own language first? I honestly don't know much about the situation so I can't say what belongs to what. I was just wondering if Taiwan has always belonged to China or did China say that because some chinese fled over to taiwain that it belongs to them or what. I have not a clue. I really would like to know though.


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Taiwan never separated from China. Here is a short history lesson.

China (including mainland and Taiwan) was called Republic of China from 1912 to 1945

The Republic of China was established in 1912 to replace the Qing Dynasty, ending 4,000+ years of imperial rule in China.



The civil war between the Communist Party and Kuomintang (ruling party at time) resulted in mainland Chinese who had fled to Taiwan in or around 1949, at the end of the Chinese Civil War.


Kuomintang claimed Taiwan as Republic of China and the Communist Party claimed mainland China as People's Republic of China (PRC).

By 1970s, most nations and the UN recognized PRC instead of Taiwan.

If there were a key date, it would be the formation of People's Republic of China in 1949.

People should regard Taiwan not as being separated, but rather a civil war that was never finished.
Your history is wrong even though it's widely believed.

Taiwan separated from China since 1895 and before that, the Qing Dynasty only marked it as its territory for a short 9 years period. China most certainly DO NOT include Taiwan from 1912 to 1945. Taiwan was under Japanese rule at the time.

ROC army occupied Taiwan after the war because they were the Ally's army in the Pan Asia region. The island was never legally returned to the ROC government.
When Chinese civil war had ROC government fled to Taiwan, U.S. sees this as an anti-communist opportunity and allowing ROC government to continue to occupy the island till this day. In essence, R.O.C., has ceased to exist since 1949, even its President Chiang Kai-Shek made a speech on its diminish at the time. The civil war was between PROC and ROC, not Taiwan. Taiwan got dragged through the mud that Taiwan should never been part of.
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i dont get it...why the same race sharing the same culture and using the same language should be seperated as 2 country.
U.S. and England were the same race, same culture and same language 200 years ago, why should it be separated into 2 countries? but the fact is, Taiwan and China don't exactly share the same language, race or culture. Heck, even the territories that China currently occupied don't share the same language, culture or race.
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Posted 1/10/10
ofc no = =
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Posted 1/12/10

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ilov_kenny wrote:

i dont get it...why the same race sharing the same culture and using the same language should be seperated as 2 country.
U.S. and England were the same race, same culture and same language 200 years ago, why should it be separated into 2 countries? but the fact is, Taiwan and China don't exactly share the same language, race or culture. Heck, even the territories that China currently occupied don't share the same language, culture or race.


what do you meann china and taiwan do not share the same race , culture and language?
About 98% of the population is of Han Chinese ethnicity. Of these, 86% are descendants of early Han Chinese( which is one the majority ethnic in china) immigrants from mainland china.This group contains two subgroups: the Southern Fujianese or "Hokkien" or "Min-nan" (70% of the total population), who migrated from the coastal Southern Fujian (Min-nan) region in the southeast of mainland China beginning in the 17th century; and the Hakka (15% of the total population), who originally migrated south to Guangdong, its surrounding areas and Taiwan. 12% of population are known as waishengren or "mainlanders" in English and are composed of and descend from mainland Chinese immigrants who arrived after the Second World War.

2% of Taiwan's population is taiwanese aborigines. about 70% speak hokkien (taiwanese) and 15% speak hakka...both of these r chinese dialect.( there are 50+ chinese dialect) Of couse the official one is mandarin..(tradditional chinese)..mainland china use simplified chinese.. and of couse they share the same culture..i see u know nothing about chinese..so you might as well get ur fact right before saying.
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Posted 1/12/10

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ejsu wrote:


ilov_kenny wrote:

i dont get it...why the same race sharing the same culture and using the same language should be seperated as 2 country.
U.S. and England were the same race, same culture and same language 200 years ago, why should it be separated into 2 countries? but the fact is, Taiwan and China don't exactly share the same language, race or culture. Heck, even the territories that China currently occupied don't share the same language, culture or race.


what do you meann china and taiwan do not share the same race , culture and language?
About 98% of the population is of Han Chinese ethnicity. Of these, 86% are descendants of early Han Chinese( which is one the majority ethnic in china) immigrants from mainland china.This group contains two subgroups: the Southern Fujianese or "Hokkien" or "Min-nan" (70% of the total population), who migrated from the coastal Southern Fujian (Min-nan) region in the southeast of mainland China beginning in the 17th century; and the Hakka (15% of the total population), who originally migrated south to Guangdong, its surrounding areas and Taiwan. 12% of population are known as waishengren or "mainlanders" in English and are composed of and descend from mainland Chinese immigrants who arrived after the Second World War.

2% of Taiwan's population is taiwanese aborigines. about 70% speak hokkien (taiwanese) and 15% speak hakka...both of these r chinese dialect.( there are 50+ chinese dialect) Of couse the official one is mandarin..(tradditional chinese)..mainland china use simplified chinese.. and of couse they share the same culture..i see u know nothing about chinese..so you might as well get ur fact right before saying.

I am very aware of your statistical "facts" posted by governments, I think you also missed that I use the word "not exactly".

Are you aware that those roughly 2000 early immigrants from China in 1600's consist of only men? They populate the island by marrying the locate native Formosan and take over their lands, even when those who aren't descendants of the early Chinese immigrants are taught into believing that they have the Chinese heritage over the years.

There are a lot of people I know, personally, that used to believe that they are nothing but Chinese descendants, had their DNA examined, and their DNA contained a lot higher percentage of Austronesian than Chinese. That's a fact.
If you are from Taiwan, and your parents aren't those migrated to Taiwan after WWII, then you probably should think about check your DNA sometime in the future, just so you know who you really are.

If you really know any Taiwanese history, you would know that a lot of native Formosan culture and language still exists with Taiwanese. Even the name "Taiwan" is derived from one of the native language. It's too bad that Taiwanese know very little about themselves due to more more than 400 years of occupation by different cultures.

I see you know nothing about Taiwanese.. so you might as well get your fact straight before saying.
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you r giving a lot of incorrect fact..you just someone who are anti china ..and want to twist all the fact.
So...you r telling me cantonese r not chinese also, just because they speak different dialect?

Posted 1/13/10

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ree132 wrote:


chicasuerte22 wrote:

I don't know. I know that Mandrian is used quite frequently but was mandrian forced onto the taiwanese or did the taiwanese have their own language first? I honestly don't know much about the situation so I can't say what belongs to what. I was just wondering if Taiwan has always belonged to China or did China say that because some chinese fled over to taiwain that it belongs to them or what. I have not a clue. I really would like to know though.


To make this answer short and concise...

Taiwan never separated from China. Here is a short history lesson.

China (including mainland and Taiwan) was called Republic of China from 1912 to 1945

The Republic of China was established in 1912 to replace the Qing Dynasty, ending 4,000+ years of imperial rule in China.



The civil war between the Communist Party and Kuomintang (ruling party at time) resulted in mainland Chinese who had fled to Taiwan in or around 1949, at the end of the Chinese Civil War.


Kuomintang claimed Taiwan as Republic of China and the Communist Party claimed mainland China as People's Republic of China (PRC).

By 1970s, most nations and the UN recognized PRC instead of Taiwan.

If there were a key date, it would be the formation of People's Republic of China in 1949.

People should regard Taiwan not as being separated, but rather a civil war that was never finished.
Your history is wrong even though it's widely believed.

Taiwan separated from China since 1895 and before that, the Qing Dynasty only marked it as its territory for a short 9 years period. China most certainly DO NOT include Taiwan from 1912 to 1945. Taiwan was under Japanese rule at the time.

ROC army occupied Taiwan after the war because they were the Ally's army in the Pan Asia region. The island was never legally returned to the ROC government.
When Chinese civil war had ROC government fled to Taiwan, U.S. sees this as an anti-communist opportunity and allowing ROC government to continue to occupy the island till this day. In essence, R.O.C., has ceased to exist since 1949, even its President Chiang Kai-Shek made a speech on its diminish at the time. The civil war was between PROC and ROC, not Taiwan. Taiwan got dragged through the mud that Taiwan should never been part of.


taiwanese are chinese because they are han chinese.
taiwanese also share same lang, culture...and traditional clothing like qi pao and hanfu ...celebrate chinese new year, mid autumn festival, dumpling festival and more..
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you r giving a lot of incorrect fact..you just someone who are anti china ..and want to twist all the fact.
it's funny, I expected that response. If you are really 17, I've studied Chinese history longer than you have been alive. When I was 17, I believed everything you believed, in fact, I believed everything you believed when I was 30. I won't try to change your mind, but I hope you grow up to question things that has been spoon fed to you.


taiwanese are chinese because they are han chinese.
taiwanese also share same lang, culture...and traditional clothing like qi pao and hanfu ...celebrate chinese new year, mid autumn festival, dumpling festival and more..
Not exactly, Taiwanese that live in Taiwan before WWII are mostly just part Han Chinese. It's common for a stronger culture to overshadow a more mellow one such as native Formosan. The native Formosan tribal cultures also exists in Taiwanese culture. Some marriage traditions such as honoring oldest brother from mothers side is clearly non-Chinese and clearly passed down from Pin-Pu Tribe. The language Taiwanese is also no longer the same as what it was originated from. If you know the language, clearly it has taken heavy influences from Japanese, various Formosan dialogs and some Spanish as well as Portuguese.
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