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best method to train for fighting
Posted 2/6/09
a Rocky training montage of course
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iPFK5T_G3U
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Posted 2/6/09
"Well you see, fighting takes skill. skills that I don't have. To make up for that I have practiced getting beaten up so that if anyone tries to attack me, they'll beat me up and get eventually get bored and leave."
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Posted 2/9/09

tobydiah wrote:


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I'll spend 1 hour to go to the store and get a gun. It's called the "shoot you in the face" technique.


illegal in my country as well as restricted. peace over war


I'm all for peace too. But martial arts is fighting regardless of someone says. Guys don't learn martial arts for beauty, peace, or any artistic reason. They do it because it looks cool and/or they want to be able to fight. I've taken martial arts and self defense classes will be adequate when being attacked by someone. Any further fighting is needed if you want to fight someone. A baseball bat, gun, taser gun, etc will get the job done easily. In my opinion.


all martial arts have thier origin in war, but
martial arts can be many things.Many guys/girls do martial arts for various reasons. It depends on the indiviudal. i have done martial arts for peace, meditation, artistic motives, sport,fitness, self defense, fighting, ect.i know instructors who teach it for these various reasons.

guns and weapons will get the job done easily, but in reality, depending on your situation,environment, country, ect. weapons may not always be present and cant always be legally used.For instance, in america, you cant use a gun or knive to defend yourself from an unarmed attacker.Weapons arnt allowed on a plane. a martial artist must be prepared for all possible situations. Some policmen dont care about the amendments, and will arrest you for carrying a gun in america, even with a permit. peace over war
Posted 2/9/09
The ability to try new things, it doesn't have to be "Do Kata now!", don't hesitate to try new things to get:

- Core strength
- Balance
- Peace of Mind
- Flexibility
- Speed

Do some Yoga to free up your mind, you know your good at martial arts when you can react without even thinking first, you've got to be sharp and on your guard.
Go climbing (agonising but worth it) for all over work out
Swimming is good for everything.

It doesn't matter how big your muscles are as long as your fitness is good and you have the balance of a ballerina, and you know what your doing inside and out...pffft...your invincible.

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Posted 2/9/09
Fight dirty.
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Posted 2/9/09
watch alot of bruce lee,Jet lee,jackie chan and Shu qi action movies
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Posted 2/9/09

JJT2 wrote:

How do you train for fights?best method? :mellow:

I personaly use martial arts as a sport to measure my overall fighting abillity.i train my body by lifting it and pushups.i learn techiques from all fighters/martial arts.Then i use them to create my own fighting style.


I havnt found the perfect training method for fighting.I cant go out in the streets and beat up random people for training at my age.i will go to jail.I cant rely on the use of the "no contact ne thing goes sparring method" because it trains you how to pull punches when u do fight.I cant rely on the sport competetions because of the rules and restrictions that dont exists in real fighting.and its really hard to balance these 3 methods. each have their strengths and weaknesses.I cant do the full contact anything goes sparring method with or without pads becuase it poses the problem of serious injury or death, or lack of movenment.(from too much padding)

Pads or no pads, its really hard to find a perfected system of training that can teach u everything u need to know about fighting.perhaps it was never meant to be perfect.perhaps training methods (like all fighting/martial arts) is based on the individual- your thoughts? peace over war


best method would be to throw you into a mountain or inhabited island or the jungle and let you survive there for a month..

after the survival training is over, you either died or gained tons of experience. hence, you wont be afraid in a fight and then you can just go learn some basics of martial arts and master the basics (basics is all its about, those fancy moves are pretty much useless in actual fights).
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Posted 2/12/09

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MUAY THAI! hahaha i think thats the most effective form of martial arts!


from all the post i have read, perfection simply doesnt exists...and there is no such thing as a "most effective" martial art. Its all about the individual, what works for u may not work for me. (there is another topic in furom that says "strongest martial art"- i argue this myth completely there)

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Posted 2/12/09 , edited 2/12/09
Repetition of martial arts or another form of training with more and more weight resistance...it'll be store as muscle memory then you won't know how not to win a fight.
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I've trained in martial arts for a very long time and can tell you about pretty much anything, but these are the most important parts for martial artists that plan to fight.

1. Experience: Definitely necessary, you have to spar, there's no way around this! You pretty much listed every type possible, so you have to pick one. I would recommend full contact with padding, but make sure to tell your sparring partner to go at a certain level rather than all out if you are scared of injury. Don't be afraid to tell your partner to go easier or to stop if you are hurt and don't want to continue. If you have no one to spar with, you will probably have to join a class, club, etc. Important: Use gloves and hand wraps or you will your damage your wrist and hands unless you have "tempered" your fist and hands. (Don't be afraid to take a punch)

2. Conditioning: Any kind of cardio exercise is good, especially running and swimming. Also, you should probably lift weights if you can to get some muscle, not only good for strength but also helps nullify the opponents hits. Be consistent, stop for a couple of days and you will break the habit of your exercise routine. If you plan to fight without gloves and padding, kill the nerves on your fists, elbows, knees, shins, and feet. You can do this by hitting anything with a hard surface, (start slowly! you will eventually be able to go full strength.), and you can also constantly roll something like a rolling pin over your feet and shins.

3. Training: Do not stick with one style, train in various styles and take the good parts and incorporate them into your own system. If you want to learn new moves, make sure they are practical, no butterfly kicks! Personally, I recommend taking muay thai, some karate, brazilian jiujitsu, and boxing. I also recommend you not take anything impractical styles like tae kwon do, kung fu, or pretty much any style that looks like it belongs in a movie rather than in a street fight or a ring.

That's about it, the rest pretty much depends on how consistent you are with your practice. Hope this helps.

PS: I have taken many classes for various styles before, so please, don't assume I'm one sided on this.
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Can't say it better myself, good post .
Posted 2/15/09
Don't get fat. Discipline yourself with whatever you do.
Fight with someone stronger than you to know if you've become stronger.
Always challenge yourself for improvement.

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Posted 2/17/09

hayate87 wrote:

I've trained in martial arts for a very long time and can tell you about pretty much anything, but these are the most important parts for martial artists that plan to fight.

1. Experience: Definitely necessary, you have to spar, there's no way around this! You pretty much listed every type possible, so you have to pick one. I would recommend full contact with padding, but make sure to tell your sparring partner to go at a certain level rather than all out if you are scared of injury. Don't be afraid to tell your partner to go easier or to stop if you are hurt and don't want to continue. If you have no one to spar with, you will probably have to join a class, club, etc. Important: Use gloves and hand wraps or you will your damage your wrist and hands unless you have "tempered" your fist and hands. (Don't be afraid to take a punch)

2. Conditioning: Any kind of cardio exercise is good, especially running and swimming. Also, you should probably lift weights if you can to get some muscle, not only good for strength but also helps nullify the opponents hits. Be consistent, stop for a couple of days and you will break the habit of your exercise routine. If you plan to fight without gloves and padding, kill the nerves on your fists, elbows, knees, shins, and feet. You can do this by hitting anything with a hard surface, (start slowly! you will eventually be able to go full strength.), and you can also constantly roll something like a rolling pin over your feet and shins.

3. Training: Do not stick with one style, train in various styles and take the good parts and incorporate them into your own system. If you want to learn new moves, make sure they are practical, no butterfly kicks! Personally, I recommend taking muay thai, some karate, brazilian jiujitsu, and boxing. I also recommend you not take anything impractical styles like tae kwon do, kung fu, or pretty much any style that looks like it belongs in a movie rather than in a street fight or a ring.

That's about it, the rest pretty much depends on how consistent you are with your practice. Hope this helps.

PS: I have taken many classes for various styles before, so please, don't assume I'm one sided on this.


im just going to argue with point 3 you made. The first part sounds good, Bruce Lee said the same thing,but on the same token, its not good to be a jack of all trades and a master of none.Bruce Lee also said that he doesnt fear the man that knows 10,000 martial arts, but he does fear a man who practiced one technique 10,000 times. but the whole

"I also recommend you not take anything impractical styles like tae kwon do, kung fu, or pretty much any style that looks like it belongs in a movie rather than in a street fight or a ring."

is a little one sided and rather ignorant. Focusing on the "combative" aspects of martial arts only, there are no such thing as impracticle styles. Its all about the individual and what works for them. And what nessesarily works in a ring wont nessesarily work in a street fight.

All martial arts r similiar and they r all equal. fighting deals with the individual. The "myth" of all these movie martial arts is that they are truly martial arts. They r cariographed and resemble dancing. So when discussing martial arts, you must never refer to movies as an example. Those r opticle illusions that mimic fighting.

All martial arts at one point in time had a combative purpose and was used in armies. Taekwondo and kung fu styles are no different.Focusing on the combative aspects, they are just as effective as ne other art form, it just depends on the individual and what works best for them.

Its just that ever since the 1960s,some Kung fu and taekwondo was turned into a sport and form of expression rather than combat.Dont be fooled into thinking that is all there is to it. Both can be trained for combat like ne other martial art.Im a black belt in taekwondo and train it as a sport and as a form of expression. I can tell you from experience that the techniques drasticly change from sparring class to XMA class (flips and stuff).

Combative taekwondo and even sporting taekwondo doesnt use all of the crap u see in movies and XMA. Just look at one sparring match.You will only see side kicks and round house kicks. Maybe a few spinning back kicks or spinning hook kicks from the advanced fighters. Never will you see ne one spin more then one time, flip, fly kicking, butter fly kick,cresit kick, or ne thing that wont work in combat.And the moment someone tries it, they get knocked flat on thier ass from a side kick.

I have experience in many other martial arts including "muay thai, some karate, brazilian jiujitsu, and boxing".And i can tell you that the basic kicks,philosophys,and foot work in taekwondo carry over to each of the arts and many more i havn't mensioned above.Although i have no experience in kung fu styles, i bet the same thing apply to them as well. If all you know of taekwondo and kung fu comes from movies, then the only true knowlege you can attest to is knowing u know nothing of either.(based off of Sacrates quote).

Dont mix up the combative aspects with the sporting and expressive aspects.And yes, i do use taekwondo's kicks in combat, as well as muy thai's.So i do know what works in combat "for me" opposed to what might not work at all "for me". peace over war
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Posted 2/17/09 , edited 2/17/09

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"Can't say it better myself, good post :)" .


i agree with everything except point 3, i argue this just one comment above this one. peace over war
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If you die you were never meant to be strong.
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