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Post Reply Do You think 2PAC is in the TOP 5 best rappers EVER?
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Posted 2/11/09 , edited 2/11/09
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Tupac......is over-rated......enough said. As mentioned by the article I placed in the Open Discussion forum Tupac was not the greatest until he died.........other than that he had a good song here and there.
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When Tupac was alive i never even listened to his music, i thought he was just ok, but as time passed i started listening to him, and i was like OoooooKKKKKK i get it now. It's been such a variety of Hip Hop acts,that their is a arugment for him being overrrated, but i also think many say this because so many people say he is the greatest. I think if you can listen to somebody 10 years or more after their death and say WOW that shit is still banging and still relevent then he or she is a great artist, but this can be said about many, but we are in a Tupac thread.. these are some of my requirements for a great artist. I will always love Pac.
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well tupac's music can still relate to 2days time. wut artist out there can do that. all u have is these ca-ca rappers making dance-dance songs, I AM SICK AND TRIED OF IT!!!!!!!!!!! just because they didn't claim him the best while he was still, doesn't mean he wasn't that great. No1 was being claimed yet, cause during that time there was alot of beef going on. plus the media protrait Tupac as bad guy when he really wasnt
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by the way take a look at this website, look who they put top 5 http://rap.about.com/od/toppicks/ss/Top50Emcees_10.htm
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#1 will always be fucking debatable.......mostly b/c Rakim keeps getting so overlooked by everybody. Rakim is certainly a guy with the talent and skillset to compete with B.I.G., Pac, Big L and others for the #1 spot. There's no defined #1, there will be several different versions for the G.O.A.T. of Rap depending on which person you're talking to.

In my opinion, 2Pac is in the top 10 for my list, no doubt. Top 5.........I'm on the fence with that. Tupac can crack the top 5, but there are so many ppl that we overlook just to justify Tupac's impact on hip hop, and these ppl like Rakim, KRS, etc. are pretty damn good as well.

As far as the list Fe-fe posted up, no disrespect to that guy who wrote that list..........he sounds like a bias nigga from the East Coast, no joke. I'm from the East Coast and as much as I have love & respect for my East Coast folk, that shit was WAY TOO EAST COAST BIAS to even be creidible. If he doesn't think Tupac should be in the Top 5, then nor shouldn't BIGGIE and Nas. And I'm a fan of both B.I.G. and Nas, but if he's gonna knock Tupac off the Top 5, then those 2 guys shouldn't be in the Top 5 either. The man put Jay Z over Tupac.....that don't make no god damn sense. You downgrade Tupac for being overrated, THEN YOU PUT ANOTHER OVERRATED NIGGA LIKE JAY Z ABOVE HIM?!
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i know i saw that shit, aint no way Jay should be over Pac... as for Rakim... i havent listened to a lot of him... but i do know of the few verses i've heard... HE KILLED. My main thing is to be the best rapper, more than just rapping ability should be considered. The thing about 2Pac, the impact his music made upon america is by far the greatest... other than Public enemy & N.W.A..... 2Pac shook & captivated white & black america with his words.

No disrespect to Big L, B.I.G. or anybody but none of Pac's peers or predecessors made the type of impact 2pac did.

FYI Eminem did the same thing so that why i consider him as pac's equall as GOAT

Honestly raja i feel sad for u, youre overlooking gold... I just listened to 2pacalypse Now today & it was amazing.... EVERY TRACK....
seriously...
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u know big_j i understand were u coming from, i was pretty shocked at this guys top 5, but then agen evey1 has a diffrent opinion, i bet if i can find another top 5 list, some1 might put Tupac on the top five, thats just on stand point. me and my brother was watching T.V, and they put Biggie #1 n Pac 2nd, so listing top 5 MC's is always gonna be a conflict.
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Fe-fe wrote:

u know big_j i understand were u coming from, i was pretty shocked at this guys top 5, but then agen evey1 has a diffrent opinion, i bet if i can find another top 5 list, some1 might put Tupac on the top five, thats just on stand point. me and my brother was watching T.V, and they put Biggie #1 n Pac 2nd, so listing top 5 MC's is always gonna be a conflict.


Prolly, there have been lists where I've seen that they list Eazy E as #1. Like I said, the list will vary amongst every hip hop fan out there.......especially with the shitty 3rd generation hip hop fans. Some of them have Soulja Boy in their top 10, which that nigga shouldn't even touch the top 100 of any damn music list with the garbage he makes.
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oh yeah u'll be shocked at this persons top 10


(this is not my top ten, this is wut i saw on T.V) so don't go "fe-fe thats bullsh*t ur top ten sucks"

10) Jim Jones (they felt he's better than Nas) How? IDK
9) Common
8) 50 Cent
7) Jay-Z
6) Young Jeezy
5) Kanye West
4)Andre 3000
3) The Game
2) T.I
1) Lil' Wayne

i wish i can explain this list but i cant but this is getting outta topic, i should post this somewhere else but back to Tupac, i like All Eyes on Me. and his songs r still relvent till this day.

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Haha lol and all u talking about RAkim Being overlooked........
U overlook sooo many for example Big DAddy Kane (prob the best overall)

No eminem.... Wayne ...2pac and so on will be the best they are populair but that doest say they have technical skill...
as i said before 2pac raps like a barking dog... maybe his lyrics are interresting for some... but idk he dont have a nice flow...

This kinda rappers dont even make it in the top 50 of rappers.....
Go Back in time and listen to some real skills....... But prob 90% of that stuff ppl dont know of cause they dont play it on radio

SO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 2BARK is certainly not top 5

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Hmmm.... I love Pac just as much as everyone but in the top 5? I don't think so. People always say that Pac was overrated and his lyrics wasn't so hot. In some ways I agree with them but the one thing about Pac that people loved about him was his passion and the way his music hit people emotionally. No one can deny the imapct he made but there are many Hip Hop artists that are considered better than Pac and influenced the game just as much or more.
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Pacs definattely in my top 5 FAVOURITE rappers
top 5 BEST is debatable....
but depends on the criterea u use to judge
who u compare him to and so on and so forth.....
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Haha lol and all u talking about RAkim Being overlooked........
U overlook sooo many for example Big DAddy Kane (prob the best overall)

No eminem.... Wayne ...2pac and so on will be the best they are populair but that doest say they have technical skill...
as i said before 2pac raps like a barking dog... maybe his lyrics are interresting for some... but idk he dont have a nice flow...

This kinda rappers dont even make it in the top 50 of rappers.....
Go Back in time and listen to some real skills....... But prob 90% of that stuff ppl dont know of cause they dont play it on radio

SO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 2BARK is certainly not top 5

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u....r....insane....
have u eard the track where pac and big daddy kane go back to back?
BDK is sick but Pac tears his head OFF
and thats not a bias opinion, find and listen to the tune, u'll see
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Posted 2/15/09 , edited 2/15/09
& 2Pac and Big L

BUT if any of you think 2Pac IS NOT TOP 10... at the very least... Name the most well rounded Rappers in your opinion

CRITERIA

-Lyrics (which cover everything from song content to rhyme scheme)

-Delivery (level of energy/emotion they provoke)

-Level of Fame/Respect (are they known just in they city or around the world)

-Timelessness (can this rapper's music stand the test of time or are they just another 1 hit wonder)

any else....?

AND REMEMBER COME UP WITH 5 NAMES .... if u can
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Bramboe wrote:

Haha lol and all u talking about RAkim Being overlooked........
U overlook sooo many for example Big DAddy Kane (prob the best overall)

No eminem.... Wayne ...2pac and so on will be the best they are populair but that doest say they have technical skill...
as i said before 2pac raps like a barking dog... maybe his lyrics are interresting for some... but idk he dont have a nice flow...

This kinda rappers dont even make it in the top 50 of rappers.....
Go Back in time and listen to some real skills....... But prob 90% of that stuff ppl dont know of cause they dont play it on radio

SO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 2BARK is certainly not top 5

Peace


u....r....insane....
have u eard the track where pac and big daddy kane go back to back?
BDK is sick but Pac tears his head OFF
and thats not a bias opinion, find and listen to the tune, u'll see


Uhhh but im not talking about 1 song lol..... i listened to it maybe ur rite but hey this beat.... is a West coast G beat.. not typically
Bdk style and this is tupac his style of beat so i dont buy it....

I dont base my opinion off 1 song i hear wich favors in this case maybe tupac.. in the end BDK is still Supreme

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