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New video player quality?
Posted 12/30/07
I prefer the old player better than the new one. The old one has a louder sound.
Posted 12/31/07

gurenwei01 wrote:

I prefer the old player better than the new one. The old one has a louder sound.


*whisper* Turn your speakers up */whisper*
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Posted 12/31/07
new player is better
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Posted 12/31/07

koitenshi wrote:

No problems here on my end, BUT I have noticed that unless you are using an Intel based CPU, the HD versions do NOT look any better - this may be a CPU issue more than anything else, that only Intel is supported and not AMD - since I exclusively use AMD and only see Intel on other people's machines (like I am using now).

I dont have any slowdowns at all - but I have 2Gb of RAM on my machine.


wow thats a very interesting point but i don't see any reason i mean, gpu is the hardware that deals with all videos and image related processes, so i think you are mistaken when you say that, it might be that just the GPu is different in the machines i mean CPU does really not effect any processes handling when it comes to video

i mean HD is just MP4 so ist not a huge thing and i am sure that most of its handling is done by the GPU the CPU does not really effect the output of the file, unless the operating systems are different or the Flash on teh Pcs are of different compiles you would not see a difference, its a very funny point u are making, i say its the Flash versions that are effecting teh video ony way to know is to download teh streamed content and play it in teh same player on both pcs under teh same os version and teh same GPU
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Posted 12/31/07
i havent had any problems with the new one, it loads quickly and the sub titles are good so yeah i like it ^_^
Posted 12/31/07
i can't tell the difference i never realised they was a new player :
but i think they both good
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Posted 12/31/07
what's the different between both player? mmm... the image maybe?
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Posted 12/31/07
i prefer the old player cos its much faster.
Posted 1/1/08

vachi wrote:


koitenshi wrote:

No problems here on my end, BUT I have noticed that unless you are using an Intel based CPU, the HD versions do NOT look any better - this may be a CPU issue more than anything else, that only Intel is supported and not AMD - since I exclusively use AMD and only see Intel on other people's machines (like I am using now).

I dont have any slowdowns at all - but I have 2Gb of RAM on my machine.


wow thats a very interesting point but i don't see any reason i mean, gpu is the hardware that deals with all videos and image related processes, so i think you are mistaken when you say that, it might be that just the GPu is different in the machines i mean CPU does really not effect any processes handling when it comes to video

i mean HD is just MP4 so ist not a huge thing and i am sure that most of its handling is done by the GPU the CPU does not really effect the output of the file, unless the operating systems are different or the Flash on teh Pcs are of different compiles you would not see a difference, its a very funny point u are making, i say its the Flash versions that are effecting teh video ony way to know is to download teh streamed content and play it in teh same player on both pcs under teh same os version and teh same GPU

The GPU thing does actually only matter if you've installed the graphics card and told it to do hardware computations, or else it's just your CPU working, that said the CPU shouldn't make the videos differ, it's more probably some other factor.
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Posted 1/1/08
The new player is better because we will know how much time we consumed watching a certain video.
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Posted 1/1/08

torerling wrote:


vachi wrote:


koitenshi wrote:

No problems here on my end, BUT I have noticed that unless you are using an Intel based CPU, the HD versions do NOT look any better - this may be a CPU issue more than anything else, that only Intel is supported and not AMD - since I exclusively use AMD and only see Intel on other people's machines (like I am using now).

I dont have any slowdowns at all - but I have 2Gb of RAM on my machine.


wow thats a very interesting point but i don't see any reason i mean, gpu is the hardware that deals with all videos and image related processes, so i think you are mistaken when you say that, it might be that just the GPu is different in the machines i mean CPU does really not effect any processes handling when it comes to video

i mean HD is just MP4 so ist not a huge thing and i am sure that most of its handling is done by the GPU the CPU does not really effect the output of the file, unless the operating systems are different or the Flash on teh Pcs are of different compiles you would not see a difference, its a very funny point u are making, i say its the Flash versions that are effecting teh video ony way to know is to download teh streamed content and play it in teh same player on both pcs under teh same os version and teh same GPU

The GPU thing does actually only matter if you've installed the graphics card and told it to do hardware computations, or else it's just your CPU working, that said the CPU shouldn't make the videos differ, it's more probably some other factor.


teh gpu thing haha, thats a nice way to say it, A graphics processing unit or GPU ( is a dedicated graphics rendering device.
Now that said, if like you say its not the GPU thingy, than the only thing that is different is the OS. Because the AMD and Intel CPU structure is very similar, tehre is nothing that would effect calculation related to video output. That said i was trying to say that its not the CPU differences, tehre are numerous things that can effect the video out put, such as the GPU, the compilement of the application used to view the video. to many thing such as teh amount of RAM. but even teh amount of ram should not effect the quality of the stream, it would effect the frame rate or the buffer but not teh quality. the gpu, the video configuration on the OS used and the lol monitor are the things that would effect the video output.

and GPU are either integrated or separately installed, so by default it is the handler of video related calculations so idk what you mean "GPU thing does actually only matter if you've installed the graphics card and told it to do hardware computations"

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Posted 1/1/08
i can't really tell the difference in quality but i think that the old player loads a bit faster than the newer one.
Posted 1/1/08

vachi wrote:
teh gpu thing haha, thats a nice way to say it, A graphics processing unit or GPU ( is a dedicated graphics rendering device.

sorry for being unclear I do know what a gpu is, and I've been struggeling a bit with this stuff, since linux was a bit flaky some years ago, with graphic cards...

vachi wrote:
Now that said, if like you say its not the GPU thingy, than the only thing that is different is the OS. Because the AMD and Intel CPU structure is very similar, tehre is nothing that would effect calculation related to video output. That said i was trying to say that its not the CPU differences, tehre are numerous things that can effect the video out put, such as the GPU, the compilement of the application used to view the video. to many thing such as teh amount of RAM. but even teh amount of ram should not effect the quality of the stream, it would effect the frame rate or the buffer but not teh quality. the gpu, the video configuration on the OS used and the lol monitor are the things that would effect the video output.
and GPU are either integrated or separately installed, so by default it is the handler of video related calculations so idk what you mean "GPU thing does actually only matter if you've installed the graphics card and told it to do hardware computations"

I don't get what you mean, the gpu isn't used much when decoding video, the gpuchips usually works with polygons and game graphics, not for decoding video. When you decode xvid, mpeg or h.264 it's not the gpu doing the decoding but the cpu.
To check this out just to be sure that I ain't saying anything wrong I ran my system with vesa drivers (you mr smartypants should know this does not support gpu hardware running) and it doesn't do a thing different for the videoquality. The thing is that when you run widows you actually have a lot of processes running in the background all the time, antivirus, virii, adware, and some startup prossesses, while this do not directly affect the quality per se it does somewhat lower the framerate of the video, and that in time makes the videos impression less good, and you can also say that it makes the quality less good.

And you're wrong in the things you say can interfere, it's some more things, your cables, the things you have around your computer (big magnets make bad quality images on screen) and even your glasses can make a difference if we're first into as far off stuff as monitors. But the number of pixels in the video and everything other than the flow and buffertime of the video is decided solely by the codec and the program you view it in and doesn't have anything to say for the video quality, I can watch crystal clear and as good video on my 133 Mhz old pc and my new dual core laptop, both running linux wich must be the only similar things apart from the keyboard on the two systems..
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Posted 1/1/08

shinji wrote:

it seems a few users have commented that the new player video quality is not as good as the old player~

if you are having this problem, please try the new player again, its been updated earlier today. theres a link you can click to switch to the old player and compare ;P

if it still doesn't look as good as the old player, please upload a screenshot (with the handy image uploader) in this thread, as well as how fast your computer is, and help me debug this issue!

if they both look the same to you, i want to hear your feedback also, so i know i'm not going crazy.

thanks -_-

edit 12/18/07: i've updated the player to have antialiasing/smoothing for subtitles. lemme know if it looks better or worse!

edit 12/19/07: added a bugreport link for those with audio but no video. lemme know if it's still happening!



why cant we ALL see the best quality videos
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Posted 1/1/08

torerling wrote:


vachi wrote:
teh gpu thing haha, thats a nice way to say it, A graphics processing unit or GPU ( is a dedicated graphics rendering device.

sorry for being unclear I do know what a gpu is, and I've been struggeling a bit with this stuff, since linux was a bit flaky some years ago, with graphic cards...

vachi wrote:
Now that said, if like you say its not the GPU thingy, than the only thing that is different is the OS. Because the AMD and Intel CPU structure is very similar, tehre is nothing that would effect calculation related to video output. That said i was trying to say that its not the CPU differences, tehre are numerous things that can effect the video out put, such as the GPU, the compilement of the application used to view the video. to many thing such as teh amount of RAM. but even teh amount of ram should not effect the quality of the stream, it would effect the frame rate or the buffer but not teh quality. the gpu, the video configuration on the OS used and the lol monitor are the things that would effect the video output.
and GPU are either integrated or separately installed, so by default it is the handler of video related calculations so idk what you mean "GPU thing does actually only matter if you've installed the graphics card and told it to do hardware computations"

I don't get what you mean, the gpu isn't used much when decoding video, the gpuchips usually works with polygons and game graphics, not for decoding video. When you decode xvid, mpeg or h.264 it's not the gpu doing the decoding but the cpu.
To check this out just to be sure that I ain't saying anything wrong I ran my system with vesa drivers (you mr smartypants should know this does not support gpu hardware running) and it doesn't do a thing different for the videoquality. The thing is that when you run widows you actually have a lot of processes running in the background all the time, antivirus, virii, adware, and some startup prossesses, while this do not directly affect the quality per se it does somewhat lower the framerate of the video, and that in time makes the videos impression less good, and you can also say that it makes the quality less good.

And you're wrong in the things you say can interfere, it's some more things, your cables, the things you have around your computer (big magnets make bad quality images on screen) and even your glasses can make a difference if we're first into as far off stuff as monitors. But the number of pixels in the video and everything other than the flow and buffertime of the video is decided solely by the codec and the program you view it in and doesn't have anything to say for the video quality, I can watch crystal clear and as good video on my 133 Mhz old pc and my new dual core laptop, both running linux wich must be the only similar things apart from the keyboard on the two systems..


lol my smarty pants, i am a dumb kid man, i see what you mean, right so teh codec effects it wall, ok one more question tha, are you saying teh video card does not effect teh screen output. and lol sure external things can effect the monitor output, but what i was trying to say in teh begining is that there is no way that the CPU difference can effect the video quality, so liek you said originally koitenshi wrote that AMD and Intel will have different video qualities, and i wanted to disprove that, with all teh mistakes and incorrect things i said
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