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New video player quality?
Posted 1/1/08

vachi wrote:
lol my smarty pants, i am a dumb kid man, i see what you mean, right so teh codec effects it wall, ok one more question tha, are you saying teh video card does not effect teh screen output. and lol sure external things can effect the monitor output, but what i was trying to say in teh begining is that there is no way that the CPU difference can effect the video quality, so liek you said originally koitenshi wrote that AMD and Intel will have different video qualities, and i wanted to disprove that, with all teh mistakes and incorrect things i said

yup, that's true as long as the different ain't that one of the cpu's are ancient it won't have anything to do with the videoquality whatsoever ;)
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Posted 1/1/08

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vachi wrote:
lol my smarty pants, i am a dumb kid man, i see what you mean, right so teh codec effects it wall, ok one more question tha, are you saying teh video card does not effect teh screen output. and lol sure external things can effect the monitor output, but what i was trying to say in teh begining is that there is no way that the CPU difference can effect the video quality, so liek you said originally koitenshi wrote that AMD and Intel will have different video qualities, and i wanted to disprove that, with all teh mistakes and incorrect things i said

yup, that's true as long as the different ain't that one of the cpu's are ancient it won't have anything to do with the videoquality whatsoever ;)


good to hear, and by teh way i am a Debian user all teh way, Linux for life hahaha

Posted 1/1/08

vachi wrote:


torerling wrote:


vachi wrote:
lol my smarty pants, i am a dumb kid man, i see what you mean, right so teh codec effects it wall, ok one more question tha, are you saying teh video card does not effect teh screen output. and lol sure external things can effect the monitor output, but what i was trying to say in teh begining is that there is no way that the CPU difference can effect the video quality, so liek you said originally koitenshi wrote that AMD and Intel will have different video qualities, and i wanted to disprove that, with all teh mistakes and incorrect things i said

yup, that's true as long as the different ain't that one of the cpu's are ancient it won't have anything to do with the videoquality whatsoever ;)


good to hear, and by teh way i am a Debian user all teh way, Linux for life hahaha


Debian is nice and clean have been a fan of arch lately, it really is fast and easy to configure I got tired of ubuntu being slow arch + fluxbox for the win ;)

and to throw in something for this not to get all off topic, the quality of the video seems to be pretty much the same to me, the difference in the player doesn't seem to be too different between the players, I see the players take some more time running on windows than my archbox, but no differences between players.
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Posted 1/1/08
Even if very late ... Torerling thank you very very very much for your help ^__^ ... And Happy New Year 2008 Everyone ^^
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Posted 1/1/08
To me the new player is better... in my comp it loads so darn fast!!!... and i like how it buffs at the starts, its good!
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Posted 1/2/08
hm...others seems to say that the player is the same??

hm...but for me it seems that the video quality is now better than the old player!! and yeah th eold player load alot faster!!than this new one but
crunchy is still the best!!!
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Posted 1/2/08
its nice... than the old one

hmm

now it very fast streaming

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Posted 1/2/08
For me ...I think the new player pic quality is better but slower buffering than old player...i hope it will be update one more thing i hope we can watch the video in fullscreen mode
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Posted 1/2/08

vachi wrote:


torerling wrote:


vachi wrote:
teh gpu thing haha, thats a nice way to say it, A graphics processing unit or GPU ( is a dedicated graphics rendering device.

sorry for being unclear I do know what a gpu is, and I've been struggeling a bit with this stuff, since linux was a bit flaky some years ago, with graphic cards...

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Now that said, if like you say its not the GPU thingy, than the only thing that is different is the OS. Because the AMD and Intel CPU structure is very similar, tehre is nothing that would effect calculation related to video output. That said i was trying to say that its not the CPU differences, tehre are numerous things that can effect the video out put, such as the GPU, the compilement of the application used to view the video. to many thing such as teh amount of RAM. but even teh amount of ram should not effect the quality of the stream, it would effect the frame rate or the buffer but not teh quality. the gpu, the video configuration on the OS used and the lol monitor are the things that would effect the video output.
and GPU are either integrated or separately installed, so by default it is the handler of video related calculations so idk what you mean "GPU thing does actually only matter if you've installed the graphics card and told it to do hardware computations"

I don't get what you mean, the gpu isn't used much when decoding video, the gpuchips usually works with polygons and game graphics, not for decoding video. When you decode xvid, mpeg or h.264 it's not the gpu doing the decoding but the cpu.
To check this out just to be sure that I ain't saying anything wrong I ran my system with vesa drivers (you mr smartypants should know this does not support gpu hardware running) and it doesn't do a thing different for the videoquality. The thing is that when you run widows you actually have a lot of processes running in the background all the time, antivirus, virii, adware, and some startup prossesses, while this do not directly affect the quality per se it does somewhat lower the framerate of the video, and that in time makes the videos impression less good, and you can also say that it makes the quality less good.

And you're wrong in the things you say can interfere, it's some more things, your cables, the things you have around your computer (big magnets make bad quality images on screen) and even your glasses can make a difference if we're first into as far off stuff as monitors. But the number of pixels in the video and everything other than the flow and buffertime of the video is decided solely by the codec and the program you view it in and doesn't have anything to say for the video quality, I can watch crystal clear and as good video on my 133 Mhz old pc and my new dual core laptop, both running linux wich must be the only similar things apart from the keyboard on the two systems..


lol my smarty pants, i am a dumb kid man, i see what you mean, right so teh codec effects it wall, ok one more question tha, are you saying teh video card does not effect teh screen output. and lol sure external things can effect the monitor output, but what i was trying to say in teh begining is that there is no way that the CPU difference can effect the video quality, so liek you said originally koitenshi wrote that AMD and Intel will have different video qualities, and i wanted to disprove that, with all teh mistakes and incorrect things i said


It is apparantly a FLASH bug related to AMD CPU processing - updating to the latest FLASH release solved this problem - but only with some videos. Some videos need to be re-made after having Flash CS3 updated with the bug fixes for H.264 generation downloaded - so anything made before like Dec. 14th may have issues (according to Adobe's info anyways).
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Posted 1/2/08

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Actually, i think the old player loads much faster than the new one. Other than that, the qualities of both players are about the same.
yah cause it takes time to make it better but there s no change at all

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Posted 1/2/08
new player is great
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Posted 1/2/08
The new player is really small on my screen, it might be that i'm using Opera.



Old player works fine except a little bugy
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Posted 1/2/08 , edited 4/18/08
I dont think i saw the old players.
These are pretty fast though! XD
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Posted 1/2/08 , edited 4/18/08

koitenshi wrote:


vachi wrote:


torerling wrote:


vachi wrote:
teh gpu thing haha, thats a nice way to say it, A graphics processing unit or GPU ( is a dedicated graphics rendering device.

sorry for being unclear I do know what a gpu is, and I've been struggeling a bit with this stuff, since linux was a bit flaky some years ago, with graphic cards...

vachi wrote:
Now that said, if like you say its not the GPU thingy, than the only thing that is different is the OS. Because the AMD and Intel CPU structure is very similar, tehre is nothing that would effect calculation related to video output. That said i was trying to say that its not the CPU differences, tehre are numerous things that can effect the video out put, such as the GPU, the compilement of the application used to view the video. to many thing such as teh amount of RAM. but even teh amount of ram should not effect the quality of the stream, it would effect the frame rate or the buffer but not teh quality. the gpu, the video configuration on the OS used and the lol monitor are the things that would effect the video output.
and GPU are either integrated or separately installed, so by default it is the handler of video related calculations so idk what you mean "GPU thing does actually only matter if you've installed the graphics card and told it to do hardware computations"

I don't get what you mean, the gpu isn't used much when decoding video, the gpuchips usually works with polygons and game graphics, not for decoding video. When you decode xvid, mpeg or h.264 it's not the gpu doing the decoding but the cpu.
To check this out just to be sure that I ain't saying anything wrong I ran my system with vesa drivers (you mr smartypants should know this does not support gpu hardware running) and it doesn't do a thing different for the videoquality. The thing is that when you run widows you actually have a lot of processes running in the background all the time, antivirus, virii, adware, and some startup prossesses, while this do not directly affect the quality per se it does somewhat lower the framerate of the video, and that in time makes the videos impression less good, and you can also say that it makes the quality less good.

And you're wrong in the things you say can interfere, it's some more things, your cables, the things you have around your computer (big magnets make bad quality images on screen) and even your glasses can make a difference if we're first into as far off stuff as monitors. But the number of pixels in the video and everything other than the flow and buffertime of the video is decided solely by the codec and the program you view it in and doesn't have anything to say for the video quality, I can watch crystal clear and as good video on my 133 Mhz old pc and my new dual core laptop, both running linux wich must be the only similar things apart from the keyboard on the two systems..


lol my smarty pants, i am a dumb kid man, i see what you mean, right so teh codec effects it wall, ok one more question tha, are you saying teh video card does not effect teh screen output. and lol sure external things can effect the monitor output, but what i was trying to say in teh begining is that there is no way that the CPU difference can effect the video quality, so liek you said originally koitenshi wrote that AMD and Intel will have different video qualities, and i wanted to disprove that, with all teh mistakes and incorrect things i said


It is apparantly a FLASH bug related to AMD CPU processing - updating to the latest FLASH release solved this problem - but only with some videos. Some videos need to be re-made after having Flash CS3 updated with the bug fixes for H.264 generation downloaded - so anything made before like Dec. 14th may have issues (according to Adobe's info anyways).


very interesting, so its a bug of the flash compilement for AMD cpu, tx for teh info
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Posted 1/2/08 , edited 4/18/08
the new player is more good looking..hehehe..but it has no difference from d 1st one...
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