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they can put the child up for adoption. Just because they might not love the child doesn't justify killing it.

Rape is wrong, but its not the babies fault that she got pregnant. The woman should go along with the pregnancy and put the child up for adoption if she wan't to. 2 wrongs don't make a right.
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women who have been raped in general should give birth to kids who serve as a daily reminder of what happened to them.


Please tell me that was a typo and you didn't just say that women who have been raped should have a daily reminder. If that's what you meant, you should kill yourself now.


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they can put the child up for adoption. Just because they might not love the child doesn't justify killing it.


What so they can end up in some abusive household? So they can live each day knowing that they were never meant to be? Knowing that their progenitor is a rapist?
Would you want to live your life like that?
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JoSh242 wrote:

yeah but what u dont get is that fact thatby not having abortion your forcing them to commit to loving a child they dont want i just think its unfair. If they want an abortion they can. I mean if say someone i knew wanted an abortion i would sup[port them 100% cos its their choice and we live in a world where we can make choices.

Also by having to live with consiquence of having that child it becmes a punishment and having children should not be a punishment


it should be a punishment if you did it out of fun and had it happen by screwing up. abortion is just the easy way out in that circumstance, without having to own up to any responsibility.

i did like the fact someone mentioned medical implications. that's also another exception to my stance on abortion. making people suffer needlessly when it's not their fault is wrong.
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digs wrote:

they can put the child up for adoption. Just because they might not love the child doesn't justify killing it.

Rape is wrong, but its not the babies fault that she got pregnant. The woman should go along with the pregnancy and put the child up for adoption if she wan't to. 2 wrongs don't make a right.


Your saying its the womans fault that hse got pregant : / tbh like i said you should rasie the child your self and it shouldnt be a punishment.

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yes, you can't make judments like that based on "what" the child "might"
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aznfarseer wrote:

Yeah, I don't agree with abortion. If a legit couple has the mistake of conceiving a child they don't want, they have the responsibility to carry it out, even if it's to put it in an orphanage later. Abortion is like killing someone you don't like out of inconvenience.

There are exceptions, however. Suppose a woman is raped and later finds out she's pregnant because of it... there's no reason to put her in one-nine months of agony and a constant reminder of the horrendous event.





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To me abortion isn't murder. Although it can be abused. If a woman was raped and became pregnant, would you tell her that she couldn't get an abortion? That she should live with a constant reminder of being raped?

Also, if a girl gets pregnant and can't support the child, it should be aborted. Rather than carry the pregnancy to term just to give it up for adoption. I mean does Child Services need anymore on its plate? Its bad enough that they can't handle what they have now.

Also, people need to get over the moral issue and think about the consequences. Having a baby at the wrong time can potentially destroy a family, or a persons life. And then the child gets caught up in that? That's just not fair.

Now I will say that I don't think abortions should just be handed out to people. People should be educated on valid forms of birth control and to practice safe sex. If people were 100% compliant to that, there would be no need for abortions.




Well, maybe if a woman gets raped it would be expecting a lot for her to go through the pregnancy, but how does that change it?

To be truthful I doubt I would be strong enough to carry through with something like that in such a situation, but it’s still murder. Perhaps murder with a reason, rather than the usual cold blood murder, but murder none the less. If it’s killing in one situation it’s certainly killing in another.

What was said about it not being fair for a child to be caught up in that, well it’s not fair to take the child’s chance of a happy life away either. You can put the child up for adoption after she/he is born.

And about the no reason thing: Sure there’s a reason. The child’s life! Where is the unborn babies HUMAN rights?

Which returns us to the debate about what a Human –is-…


EDIT: PEOPLE! Stop watching movies about abused orphans! Life in foster homes and orphanages is -not- generally that bad!
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aznfarseer wrote:


JoSh242 wrote:

yeah but what u dont get is that fact thatby not having abortion your forcing them to commit to loving a child they dont want i just think its unfair. If they want an abortion they can. I mean if say someone i knew wanted an abortion i would sup[port them 100% cos its their choice and we live in a world where we can make choices.

Also by having to live with consiquence of having that child it becmes a punishment and having children should not be a punishment


it should be a punishment if you did it out of fun and had it happen by screwing up. abortion is just the easy way out in that circumstance, without having to own up to any responsibility.

i did like the fact someone mentioned medical implications. that's also another exception to my stance on abortion. making people suffer needlessly when it's not their fault is wrong.


: / uhh not if its by accedent and that is incredibly harsh on the child

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but in the end if the parent do not resort to abortion, the child suffers... in the eyes of the parent, the child is a living photo of something the parent do not want to remember...
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Stop acting like you can foresee what the child is going to think. Life isn't supposed to be all roses and happy. Its not fair to deny it life just because it might be unhappy.
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digs wrote:

they can put the child up for adoption. Just because they might not love the child doesn't justify killing it.



Rape is wrong, but its not the babies fault that she got pregnant. The woman should go along with the pregnancy and put the child up for adoption if she wan't to. 2 wrongs don't make a right.


but what if he/she don't get love from her adopted parents



So you're going to justify the snuffing of a life on an "if?" I see this woman walking, what if her husband beats her? I should kill her to protect her from that... ??
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this is why religon really hampers the growth of the world. These are incredibly old fashoned views. We live in a diffrent society now where we are not so religion ddependent.
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the "child" hasn't even really lived a day in its life.

not to mention you guys with your though shall not kill. are you all vegans? you against the death penalty?

whats worst? killing a life that no one can say with one hundred percent certainty is a life, or ruining lives that we can say for certain are lives?

end of the day i don't want abortions to happen, however sometimes they do have to happen. womans body is hers to decide what to do with.
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Yeah, a society that bases everythings on "ifs." I think its stupid to kill someone just because of what "might" happen. Give it a chance. And don't bash religion.
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JoSh, nobody has been putting much religion into this. So far the topic has been adressed in an almost 100% secular way.
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yeah but you want to say abortion is wrong because it may be alive.
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