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Posted 3/18/13
Stated this elsewhere today within forums but abortion is a personal right of the female, it is her body. Her comfort or discomfort with the morality of the issue is all that matters. If men wish to have a say in the life of a child then they need to be on birth control as well. And yes there is a very effective and inexpensive male birth control, called Gossypol, read human research on the chemical, not the info on livestock getting into fields of cotton seed and gorging themselves. This chemical has been studied and is within developmental availability it is just that efforts haven't been put into effect because women are already responsible for taking care of the problem and the blame. Wouldn't it be much more prudent if both sexes were responsible for birth and birth control? Thus both parties needing to discontinue birth control if a child is wanted. I believe this would take care of the issue of abortion on the whole though don't you? Mind you accidents will always happen, but far fewer.
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Posted 3/29/13
No, Just.. no.
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Goddamn, I had to pick up some discarded pro-life posters near my house and shove them in the bin where they belong.

These people must have serious cash for all these ads and posters, pity they don't use it to actually fucking help women and children who are ALREADY BORN and could actually use some help.

I don't like the way pro-lifers lie so much either, as these posters did, they're not doing themselves any favours at all with that carry on. Plus it makes the subject really tiring to debate when so many people believe the lies these cunts spout because their mis-information is so widespread.

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Bitches can do as they please. U care about someone taking ur guns away, so why should u care about abortion
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Boganis wrote:

Stated this elsewhere today within forums but abortion is a personal right of the female, it is her body. Her comfort or discomfort with the morality of the issue is all that matters. If men wish to have a say in the life of a child then they need to be on birth control as well. And yes there is a very effective and inexpensive male birth control, called Gossypol, read human research on the chemical, not the info on livestock getting into fields of cotton seed and gorging themselves. This chemical has been studied and is within developmental availability it is just that efforts haven't been put into effect because women are already responsible for taking care of the problem and the blame. Wouldn't it be much more prudent if both sexes were responsible for birth and birth control? Thus both parties needing to discontinue birth control if a child is wanted. I believe this would take care of the issue of abortion on the whole though don't you? Mind you accidents will always happen, but far fewer.


^Pretty much sums up my opinion on it for the most part.
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digs wrote:

Life begins at conception. Once the sperm and egg meet then they are a human life. Abortion is wrong on soooo many levels.


That was beautifull. Nuff said.
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If you are incapable of taking care of a child, then you totally should be able to have an abortion.

Why should you be forced to go through the emotional and possibly physical ramifications of having a child?

My mother almost bled to death having me. (fancy c-sec) Fuck that shit.

If a chick wants to not have to worry about the whole possibly dying/financial trouble/potential disabilities of the child, then fine by me.

If you're not a position to be a mother, then you shouldn't have to be.
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Personally, the thought of having to keep my rapist's baby 'because it is 'innocent' fills me with disgust. I would have an abortion without hesitation and I very much doubt I'd have any regrets, other than that I can't have my rapist thrown into an acid vat. I'd wager a quite a few women feel the same way (maybe not with my idea of revenge though)

I see that you live in Ireland, but in many U.S. states, unless a woman would be be A-okay co-parenting with a rapist, they'd need to throw them in an acid vat, bankrupt themselves paying lawyers to represent them in family court, take their child and go into hiding or never press charges for the rape if that would mean naming him as the father (or he'd figure it out during the course of the trial, like if she were visibly pregnant; he could demand a DNA test the same as anyone else), because rapists have the exact same parental rights as any other father. This means the woman couldn't just give the child up for adoption, either, without the rapist's consent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/26/pregnant-rape-abortion_n_2552183.html

I just wanted to put this out there, because a lot of people think a child being conceived in rape automatically denies the father parental rights.

Untrue, at least in the applicable U.S. states and wherever else it might apply.

For those who believe women should still give birth even in cases of rape, how does this factor?
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miserykitsune wrote:
Personally, the thought of having to keep my rapist's baby 'because it is 'innocent' fills me with disgust. I would have an abortion without hesitation and I very much doubt I'd have any regrets, other than that I can't have my rapist thrown into an acid vat. I'd wager a quite a few women feel the same way (maybe not with my idea of revenge though)

I see that you live in Ireland, but in many U.S. states, unless a woman would be be A-okay co-parenting with a rapist, they'd need to throw them in an acid vat, bankrupt themselves paying lawyers to represent them in family court, take their child and go into hiding or never press charges for the rape if that would mean naming him as the father (or he'd figure it out during the course of the trial, like if she were visibly pregnant; he could demand a DNA test the same as anyone else), because rapists have the exact same parental rights as any other father. This means the woman couldn't just give the child up for adoption, either, without the rapist's consent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/26/pregnant-rape-abortion_n_2552183.html

I just wanted to put this out there, because a lot of people think a child being conceived in rape automatically denies the father parental rights.

Untrue, at least in the applicable U.S. states and wherever else it might apply.

For those who believe women should still give birth even in cases of rape, how does this factor?



I don't think that is the case in Ireland, as bad as we are, but it is absolutely disgusting.

Who the fuck thought that would be a good idea?

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miserykitsune wrote:


ravinia2112 wrote:


miserykitsune wrote:
Personally, the thought of having to keep my rapist's baby 'because it is 'innocent' fills me with disgust. I would have an abortion without hesitation and I very much doubt I'd have any regrets, other than that I can't have my rapist thrown into an acid vat. I'd wager a quite a few women feel the same way (maybe not with my idea of revenge though)

I see that you live in Ireland, but in many U.S. states, unless a woman would be be A-okay co-parenting with a rapist, they'd need to throw them in an acid vat, bankrupt themselves paying lawyers to represent them in family court, take their child and go into hiding or never press charges for the rape if that would mean naming him as the father (or he'd figure it out during the course of the trial, like if she were visibly pregnant; he could demand a DNA test the same as anyone else), because rapists have the exact same parental rights as any other father. This means the woman couldn't just give the child up for adoption, either, without the rapist's consent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/26/pregnant-rape-abortion_n_2552183.html

I just wanted to put this out there, because a lot of people think a child being conceived in rape automatically denies the father parental rights.

Untrue, at least in the applicable U.S. states and wherever else it might apply.

For those who believe women should still give birth even in cases of rape, how does this factor?



I don't think that is the case in Ireland, as bad as we are, but it is absolutely disgusting.

Who the fuck thought that would be a good idea?



From what I understand, the majority of it's been allowed due what could be called...oversight? It was assumed that rapists would either never seek parental rights, or they wouldn't be granted if they did. (AFAIK, occurrences of their seeking rights have been fairly recent, so I guess it could also be called a new issue?) So because there was no specific rule against it, by default they were granted the same rights as anyone else. I haven't seen anything saying that any of the states allowing it actually decided to allow it, but AFAIK, those who don't had to pass specific legislation disallowing it. I'm not positive the map is currently 100% accurate, as I read that a few other states had/have legislation in the works to disallow. Missouri, Maryland, Utah, Arkansas and Florida, if I remember correctly. I believe Missouri's and Utah's passed. Not certain how the others turned out. But even if it passed in all five of those, that would still leave 26 states allowing it.

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Alright this is a pretty interesting Topic. If you want to say wether abortion is wrong or not, you first have to precisly define when human live begins. And IMO it begins with the baby being born. I think this way because a child has only limited apperceptions (I think this is the correct term), when its still unborn. I think abortion needs to be allowed, because people do mistakes they may regret and abortion may help those who think they did a mistake by getting a child.
Posted 4/4/13
In my opinion abortion is not right or wrong. It is the intention that counts.
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Posted 4/5/13
I would never want to give birth to a child I didn't even want, who wishes they were never even born, who continues to live a miserable life until they commit suicide.
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Another interesting thing I heard.

There is quite the possibility your mother had an abortion before she had you, and the only reason you exist is BECAUSE of the abortion she had before.

Another take on the whole 'What if you had been aborted?' thing.

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Posted 4/8/13

miserykitsune wrote:

^Actually helping the child and mother once it's born? Giving up your time and money after forcing someone to give birth because of your morals? Crazy talk. Once the baby has gone down fanny lane the majority of pro-lifer's regard their work as done, not their problem any longer and they can go home and think of themselves as a Good Person who saved a 'baby'. Who they will then bitch and moan about having to support with their taxes.



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Abortion is murder + an aborter is the murderer of an innocent.




All too easy to come with stuff like this when you aren't in the situation yourself. Many 'pro-life' people have a change of heart when they find themselves with an unplanned pregnancy.

No-one goes about having abortions for fun, due to the pain, cost and judgmental arseholes, it's usually out of desperation.


um. what you said is very true of course... but abortion is killing someone and when one kills another doesn't the killer become a murderer?
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