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27 / M / ロンドン、カナダ
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"Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others."
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Abortion is murder + an aborter is the murderer of an innocent.
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So the only argument against abortion is the classification of it as murder?

Why would you assume that all the aborted fetuses would want to live a life on this flawed planet in the first place? If you are going to outlaw abortion, then you must outlaw all forms of sexual intercourse that occur outside of a healthy marriage that is strong enough to support children. You can't have it both ways, pro-lifers. Either make sure that pregnancies only occur in the most idealistic situations, or allow people to freely engage in the activity while giving them the option to decline parenthood. No child should have to grow up in a household that never wanted them to begin with, to make them do so is nothing short of slavery, an injustice that is far worse than murder. If you are so concerned about saving lives, why don't you try helping the people already born that need your help? There are plenty of them out there that could use your love and support, and to ignore them (or shun them, making them feel inhuman by calling them names and excluding them from your personal group of friends) is no different than killing them, the very thing that you despise. In fact, it would be better if you did kill them, that way you could relieve their pain instead of piling more of it on with your ignorance. When you choose not to empathize with people, you are essentially killing them by building a wall between their soul and yours, so why should you even concern yourself with saving the lives of unborn babies when they might just end up outside of your castle?

If you call yourself a pro-lifer, then make sure you live up to your name and support any type of life at all, even the lives that you do not understand. Don't sit here and call abortion a murderous act when you are just going to commit murders of your own in the form of bullying.
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^Actually helping the child and mother once it's born? Giving up your time and money after forcing someone to give birth because of your morals? Crazy talk. Once the baby has gone down fanny lane the majority of pro-lifer's regard their work as done, not their problem any longer and they can go home and think of themselves as a Good Person who saved a 'baby'. Who they will then bitch and moan about having to support with their taxes.



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Abortion is murder + an aborter is the murderer of an innocent.




All too easy to come with stuff like this when you aren't in the situation yourself. Many 'pro-life' people have a change of heart when they find themselves with an unplanned pregnancy.

No-one goes about having abortions for fun, due to the pain, cost and judgmental arseholes, it's usually out of desperation.
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if there is no medical emergency, i personally would NEVER have an abortion. I couldn't do it.

However, i could never imagine speaking for another woman and her body/future. NOR WOULD I EVER FEEL THE NEED TO.

If pro-lifers wants to convince people to keep their baby, i feel like they would be more successful "saving lives" giving love and support (because there are certainly a number of women who simply do not have that) instead of trying to pass a law. Just my two cents.
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Abortion is a touchy subject and not something that everyone can agree on. I am pro-choice. I believe it is a woman's choice, because a zygoat is not a person no matter how much people whine that it is. Woman are still going to have abortions whether it is legal or not. Also, and this may be an EXTREMELY unpopular opinion, but I think abortions are a neccessary evil. There are 7 billion people on this earth and one baby not being born is not the end of the world. I'm not saying everyone should have an abortion if they don't want the child, but what is thee use of children being in an orphanage when there are already so many children in that have no parents. Also, I believe that if a woman is raped or her life is in-danger then it should be without guilt.
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Stated this elsewhere today within forums but abortion is a personal right of the female, it is her body. Her comfort or discomfort with the morality of the issue is all that matters. If men wish to have a say in the life of a child then they need to be on birth control as well. And yes there is a very effective and inexpensive male birth control, called Gossypol, read human research on the chemical, not the info on livestock getting into fields of cotton seed and gorging themselves. This chemical has been studied and is within developmental availability it is just that efforts haven't been put into effect because women are already responsible for taking care of the problem and the blame. Wouldn't it be much more prudent if both sexes were responsible for birth and birth control? Thus both parties needing to discontinue birth control if a child is wanted. I believe this would take care of the issue of abortion on the whole though don't you? Mind you accidents will always happen, but far fewer.
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No, Just.. no.
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Goddamn, I had to pick up some discarded pro-life posters near my house and shove them in the bin where they belong.

These people must have serious cash for all these ads and posters, pity they don't use it to actually fucking help women and children who are ALREADY BORN and could actually use some help.

I don't like the way pro-lifers lie so much either, as these posters did, they're not doing themselves any favours at all with that carry on. Plus it makes the subject really tiring to debate when so many people believe the lies these cunts spout because their mis-information is so widespread.

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Bitches can do as they please. U care about someone taking ur guns away, so why should u care about abortion
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Boganis wrote:

Stated this elsewhere today within forums but abortion is a personal right of the female, it is her body. Her comfort or discomfort with the morality of the issue is all that matters. If men wish to have a say in the life of a child then they need to be on birth control as well. And yes there is a very effective and inexpensive male birth control, called Gossypol, read human research on the chemical, not the info on livestock getting into fields of cotton seed and gorging themselves. This chemical has been studied and is within developmental availability it is just that efforts haven't been put into effect because women are already responsible for taking care of the problem and the blame. Wouldn't it be much more prudent if both sexes were responsible for birth and birth control? Thus both parties needing to discontinue birth control if a child is wanted. I believe this would take care of the issue of abortion on the whole though don't you? Mind you accidents will always happen, but far fewer.


^Pretty much sums up my opinion on it for the most part.
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digs wrote:

Life begins at conception. Once the sperm and egg meet then they are a human life. Abortion is wrong on soooo many levels.


That was beautifull. Nuff said.
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If you are incapable of taking care of a child, then you totally should be able to have an abortion.

Why should you be forced to go through the emotional and possibly physical ramifications of having a child?

My mother almost bled to death having me. (fancy c-sec) Fuck that shit.

If a chick wants to not have to worry about the whole possibly dying/financial trouble/potential disabilities of the child, then fine by me.

If you're not a position to be a mother, then you shouldn't have to be.
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Personally, the thought of having to keep my rapist's baby 'because it is 'innocent' fills me with disgust. I would have an abortion without hesitation and I very much doubt I'd have any regrets, other than that I can't have my rapist thrown into an acid vat. I'd wager a quite a few women feel the same way (maybe not with my idea of revenge though)

I see that you live in Ireland, but in many U.S. states, unless a woman would be be A-okay co-parenting with a rapist, they'd need to throw them in an acid vat, bankrupt themselves paying lawyers to represent them in family court, take their child and go into hiding or never press charges for the rape if that would mean naming him as the father (or he'd figure it out during the course of the trial, like if she were visibly pregnant; he could demand a DNA test the same as anyone else), because rapists have the exact same parental rights as any other father. This means the woman couldn't just give the child up for adoption, either, without the rapist's consent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/26/pregnant-rape-abortion_n_2552183.html

I just wanted to put this out there, because a lot of people think a child being conceived in rape automatically denies the father parental rights.

Untrue, at least in the applicable U.S. states and wherever else it might apply.

For those who believe women should still give birth even in cases of rape, how does this factor?
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ravinia2112 wrote:


miserykitsune wrote:
Personally, the thought of having to keep my rapist's baby 'because it is 'innocent' fills me with disgust. I would have an abortion without hesitation and I very much doubt I'd have any regrets, other than that I can't have my rapist thrown into an acid vat. I'd wager a quite a few women feel the same way (maybe not with my idea of revenge though)

I see that you live in Ireland, but in many U.S. states, unless a woman would be be A-okay co-parenting with a rapist, they'd need to throw them in an acid vat, bankrupt themselves paying lawyers to represent them in family court, take their child and go into hiding or never press charges for the rape if that would mean naming him as the father (or he'd figure it out during the course of the trial, like if she were visibly pregnant; he could demand a DNA test the same as anyone else), because rapists have the exact same parental rights as any other father. This means the woman couldn't just give the child up for adoption, either, without the rapist's consent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/26/pregnant-rape-abortion_n_2552183.html

I just wanted to put this out there, because a lot of people think a child being conceived in rape automatically denies the father parental rights.

Untrue, at least in the applicable U.S. states and wherever else it might apply.

For those who believe women should still give birth even in cases of rape, how does this factor?



I don't think that is the case in Ireland, as bad as we are, but it is absolutely disgusting.

Who the fuck thought that would be a good idea?

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