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How can they Biblically justify indulgence? This makes me somewhat angry as it isn't Biblical and no man or priest has the authority to forgive sins, only Jesus can do that.


That's because religion isn't about god, religion is a money making business. That's how you make the big bucks, by starting a religion, then hopefully it gets popular, people donate, buy things, ect, anyone can do it.
Posted 5/31/09

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digs wrote:

How can they Biblically justify indulgence? This makes me somewhat angry as it isn't Biblical and no man or priest has the authority to forgive sins, only Jesus can do that.


That's because religion isn't about god, religion is a money making business. That's how you make the big bucks, by starting a religion, then hopefully it gets popular, people donate, buy things, ect, anyone can do it.


As much as i hate to agree with you, you do have a point there. Just look a Scientology created by Elron Hubbard an well know sci fi writer. Hell he even had a contest with the creator of star trek to see which would pick up 1st and yeah look at what happened, but I will always have some faith because in hope in being reunited with my love ones some day no matter how stupid that sounds lol.
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digs wrote:

How can they Biblically justify indulgence? This makes me somewhat angry as it isn't Biblical and no man or priest has the authority to forgive sins, only Jesus can do that.


And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
(Luke 11:9) lols

Seriously, am I like the only Catholic who understands how to answer these types of oppositions?

btw, this page was scanned straight from a bible, no joke.

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digs wrote:

How can they Biblically justify indulgence? This makes me somewhat angry as it isn't Biblical and no man or priest has the authority to forgive sins, only Jesus can do that.


That's because religion isn't about god, religion is a money making business. That's how you make the big bucks, by starting a religion, then hopefully it gets popular, people donate, buy things, ect, anyone can do it.


Odin, that's like any organization, they all make money either as profit as their primary goal or to maintain their budget. I will say a majority of churches and religions out there aren't about making money and keeping it in the bank (scientology is probably one of the exceptions). They use it to like renovate their facilities, feed homeless, maintain utilities, as comprable (and in the catholic church feeble) income for the priest/preacher, and to make other buildings to facilitate the church's agenda. Their budgets don't leave a whole lot of profit. Starting a small business would be a better idea if profit was the primary goal in mind.
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Allhailodin wrote:


digs wrote:

How can they Biblically justify indulgence? This makes me somewhat angry as it isn't Biblical and no man or priest has the authority to forgive sins, only Jesus can do that.


That's because religion isn't about god, religion is a money making business. That's how you make the big bucks, by starting a religion, then hopefully it gets popular, people donate, buy things, ect, anyone can do it.


Odin, that's like any organization, they all make money either as profit as their primary goal or to maintain their budget. I will say a majority of churches and religions out there aren't about making money and keeping it in the bank (scientology is probably one of the exceptions). They use it to like renovate their facilities, feed homeless, maintain utilities, as comprable (and in the catholic church feeble) income for the priest/preacher, and to make other buildings to facilitate the church's agenda. Their budgets don't leave a whole lot of profit. Starting a small business would be a better idea if profit was the primary goal in mind.


That all depends on how popular your new religion becomes. If it takes off, then you could easily make billions. If it doesn't you wont make much, Its a gamble really.


But the catholic church isn't really a religious deal, the catholic church is a business, that simply uses religion to manipulate its "customers", if your catholic, your not a faithful servant of the catholic church, you are its customer.
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Posted 5/31/09

Allhailodin wrote:


crunchypibb wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


digs wrote:

How can they Biblically justify indulgence? This makes me somewhat angry as it isn't Biblical and no man or priest has the authority to forgive sins, only Jesus can do that.


That's because religion isn't about god, religion is a money making business. That's how you make the big bucks, by starting a religion, then hopefully it gets popular, people donate, buy things, ect, anyone can do it.


Odin, that's like any organization, they all make money either as profit as their primary goal or to maintain their budget. I will say a majority of churches and religions out there aren't about making money and keeping it in the bank (scientology is probably one of the exceptions). They use it to like renovate their facilities, feed homeless, maintain utilities, as comprable (and in the catholic church feeble) income for the priest/preacher, and to make other buildings to facilitate the church's agenda. Their budgets don't leave a whole lot of profit. Starting a small business would be a better idea if profit was the primary goal in mind.


That all depends on how popular your new religion becomes. If it takes off, then you could easily make billions. If it doesn't you wont make much, Its a gamble really.


But the catholic church isn't really a religious deal, the catholic church is a business, that simply uses religion to manipulate its "customers", if your catholic, your not a faithful servant of the catholic church, you are its customer.


You really think the catholic church is a profitable church? It may make a lot of money, since the religion is big after all, but as far as pocket money goes, it sucks in that department.
Now a better example of a profitable church is the one purely based on evangelization like Billy Graham's church. The dude has a personal helicopter for himself for recreational use. The pope has a car for himself too but that's an armored car so he doesn't die from assassination.
Lastly, it's technically not your right to talk about the catholic church like that unless you've seen both the opposition and the supporters side.
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crunchypibb wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


crunchypibb wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


digs wrote:

How can they Biblically justify indulgence? This makes me somewhat angry as it isn't Biblical and no man or priest has the authority to forgive sins, only Jesus can do that.


That's because religion isn't about god, religion is a money making business. That's how you make the big bucks, by starting a religion, then hopefully it gets popular, people donate, buy things, ect, anyone can do it.


Odin, that's like any organization, they all make money either as profit as their primary goal or to maintain their budget. I will say a majority of churches and religions out there aren't about making money and keeping it in the bank (scientology is probably one of the exceptions). They use it to like renovate their facilities, feed homeless, maintain utilities, as comprable (and in the catholic church feeble) income for the priest/preacher, and to make other buildings to facilitate the church's agenda. Their budgets don't leave a whole lot of profit. Starting a small business would be a better idea if profit was the primary goal in mind.


That all depends on how popular your new religion becomes. If it takes off, then you could easily make billions. If it doesn't you wont make much, Its a gamble really.


But the catholic church isn't really a religious deal, the catholic church is a business, that simply uses religion to manipulate its "customers", if your catholic, your not a faithful servant of the catholic church, you are its customer.


You really think the catholic church is a profitable church? It may make a lot of money, since the religion is big after all, but as far as pocket money goes, it sucks in that department.
Now a better example of a profitable church is the one purely based on evangelization like Billy Graham's church. The dude has a personal helicopter for himself for recreational use. The pope has a car for himself too but that's an armored car so he doesn't die from assassination.
Lastly, it's technically not your right to talk about the catholic church like that unless you've seen both the opposition and the supporters side.


Ever year the catholic church spends billions protecting their pedofiles. those billions of dollars is what people like you and me call profit, not money for maintaining anything, feeding homeless, none of that, that money is solid profit. If they have that kind of money to spend like that, cause i mean, you can always find new priests, that's not hard, you could train anyone to be a priest, so why bother to save em ? I call that kind of organization a business.
Posted 5/31/09

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crunchypibb wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


crunchypibb wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


digs wrote:

How can they Biblically justify indulgence? This makes me somewhat angry as it isn't Biblical and no man or priest has the authority to forgive sins, only Jesus can do that.


That's because religion isn't about god, religion is a money making business. That's how you make the big bucks, by starting a religion, then hopefully it gets popular, people donate, buy things, ect, anyone can do it.


Odin, that's like any organization, they all make money either as profit as their primary goal or to maintain their budget. I will say a majority of churches and religions out there aren't about making money and keeping it in the bank (scientology is probably one of the exceptions). They use it to like renovate their facilities, feed homeless, maintain utilities, as comprable (and in the catholic church feeble) income for the priest/preacher, and to make other buildings to facilitate the church's agenda. Their budgets don't leave a whole lot of profit. Starting a small business would be a better idea if profit was the primary goal in mind.


That all depends on how popular your new religion becomes. If it takes off, then you could easily make billions. If it doesn't you wont make much, Its a gamble really.


But the catholic church isn't really a religious deal, the catholic church is a business, that simply uses religion to manipulate its "customers", if your catholic, your not a faithful servant of the catholic church, you are its customer.


You really think the catholic church is a profitable church? It may make a lot of money, since the religion is big after all, but as far as pocket money goes, it sucks in that department.
Now a better example of a profitable church is the one purely based on evangelization like Billy Graham's church. The dude has a personal helicopter for himself for recreational use. The pope has a car for himself too but that's an armored car so he doesn't die from assassination.
Lastly, it's technically not your right to talk about the catholic church like that unless you've seen both the opposition and the supporters side.


Ever year the catholic church spends billions protecting their pedofiles. those billions of dollars is what people like you and me call profit, not money for maintaining anything, feeding homeless, none of that, that money is solid profit. If they have that kind of money to spend like that, cause i mean, you can always find new priests, that's not hard, you could train anyone to be a priest, so why bother to save em ? I call that kind of organization a business.


hell i am somewhat still christian and i don't even like the catholic church for the same reasons you do.
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Allhailodin wrote:


crunchypibb wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


crunchypibb wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


digs wrote:

How can they Biblically justify indulgence? This makes me somewhat angry as it isn't Biblical and no man or priest has the authority to forgive sins, only Jesus can do that.


That's because religion isn't about god, religion is a money making business. That's how you make the big bucks, by starting a religion, then hopefully it gets popular, people donate, buy things, ect, anyone can do it.


Odin, that's like any organization, they all make money either as profit as their primary goal or to maintain their budget. I will say a majority of churches and religions out there aren't about making money and keeping it in the bank (scientology is probably one of the exceptions). They use it to like renovate their facilities, feed homeless, maintain utilities, as comprable (and in the catholic church feeble) income for the priest/preacher, and to make other buildings to facilitate the church's agenda. Their budgets don't leave a whole lot of profit. Starting a small business would be a better idea if profit was the primary goal in mind.


That all depends on how popular your new religion becomes. If it takes off, then you could easily make billions. If it doesn't you wont make much, Its a gamble really.


But the catholic church isn't really a religious deal, the catholic church is a business, that simply uses religion to manipulate its "customers", if your catholic, your not a faithful servant of the catholic church, you are its customer.


You really think the catholic church is a profitable church? It may make a lot of money, since the religion is big after all, but as far as pocket money goes, it sucks in that department.
Now a better example of a profitable church is the one purely based on evangelization like Billy Graham's church. The dude has a personal helicopter for himself for recreational use. The pope has a car for himself too but that's an armored car so he doesn't die from assassination.
Lastly, it's technically not your right to talk about the catholic church like that unless you've seen both the opposition and the supporters side.


Ever year the catholic church spends billions protecting their pedofiles. those billions of dollars is what people like you and me call profit, not money for maintaining anything, feeding homeless, none of that, that money is solid profit. If they have that kind of money to spend like that, cause i mean, you can always find new priests, that's not hard, you could train anyone to be a priest, so why bother to save em ? I call that kind of organization a business.


You know I was using the word profitable differently than normal if you paid attention to my last post. Yes, the church is profitable in that sense but I avoided using the word profit that way because I didn't want to give the inference that the church approved using indulgences as pocket money, even though back then corrupt members have used indulgences like that. The way the catholic church views money is not the same as a business. For the point of a business to make profit is to make pocket money. The church makes profit to give it to those who need it. It actually runs more like a government than a business and the collected money is like tax money.

Exactly how do they spend billions on protecting pedophiles? Pedophile priests you mean? Geez, they're not that rampant are they? Sure they catch the press often but billions? Thousands maybe but not so much to break six or nine figures for one guy.
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i really hated that part in the history of the church when the catholic religious collected money from the people to rebuild St. Peter's Basilica but disguised this as a secure way of gaining salvation... in relation to indulgences, i think the church do not only refer money... there are two kinds of indulgences: plenary that comes from true sorrow of our sins and partial that are in the form of charitable works...
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as a chatholic it's embarrasing and an outrage to hear about this.



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n it's just shocking that most catholics does not even have an idea of what indulgences are....
I am angry at the current pope....!!!!!!
Jesus wouldn't want this!!!!!


explain what an indulgence is please
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I think the real issue at hand may be that the church's coffers are waning as is their support.

It is a silly idea to be able to pay off your sins, but at the same time if the money is put to good use then it is not the worst thing that someone could do.

And the fact that it was brought back by a bishop and not the pope also means that it still wont be mainstream or common place.

I really see this as a church needs donations kind of thing rather than a buy your condo in heaven ad. XD
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Biggest bs I have ever heard. Indulgences in the Catholic church are past long gone, medieval times. Nowadays nobody is stupid enough to bring them back, so let's not spread idiotic rumors.
Indulgences are not, and will not be back. End of the topic
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