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Who is tired of native asian try to fake an english accent!
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^ ^in my opinion, nope.u r not a chinese wanabe
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^ ^in my opinion, nope.u r not a chinese wanabe


lol,i don't get you.
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in theory, if i had lots of french friends in the uk, i wouldnt speak to them in an english accented french, i would speak to them with a french accent. i think the language issue is seperate to the cultural issue, hence thinking maybe this topic should maybe be reworded. i think its valid to have an issue with people who shun their own heritage, but the accent thing is just a symptom - people could speak with an english accent and still appreciate their culture and nationality
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When I go back to China and if I hear people speaking English or if people find out that I live in the UK, their English has always always got this weird American accent which I didn't understand. I only assumed that it's from watching US sitcoms or something.

However, later I found out it's because that's the way they are taught because English teachers in China are almost always from the US.


Yeah thats pretty much the same with Hong Kong. no offense but when singaporeans speak English with their accent it always makes me laugh
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I would like to remind this is about native asian WHO GREW UP IN ASIA but try to speak in a fake western accent to everyone and not western born asians returning to asia.
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dun mind me im crazy right now~~
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Ratmar wrote:


darrylchan wrote:


Ratmar wrote:

Yeah I know what you mean. I'm half english, raised in england so my accent is clearly british, but when people are faking accents they're not being true to themselves and their culture.

Though alot of people sometimes feel pressured to have a certain accent seeing as some people don't understand them when they talk in their original accents, I think. And so it introduces that insecurity of misunderstandings and so speaking in a aparticular accent often makes them more "understandable" in their heads, and so beating the whole point of being true to themselves.

It's difficult for me to have a go at people unless I know the route of why they choose to fake heir own accent.


Actually i like to know what western people thinks of native asian faking the accent.
I don't see how speaking in one's original language cease to make people understand another.
Singaporean are educated in english and their english is understandable unless we throw in the singlish which many will not use it when peaking to westerners.
I see no point in delibrately speakining in some western accents to be real honest.
My aunt's very close friend is a british and he visits us often.
When talking to him,i try not to talk in my tinge of accent and purposey try to make my speech snglish and yet he still understands!


I don't know. I'm not saying everyone, I mean, I understand! but I've seen a cluster of people that just go on to say they don't understand some accents. I don't know whether it's just being obnoxious or not listening properly.

I'm just saying that I think most people put on a western accent just because apparently its more "universal" or something. I think it's just a habit people have developed when talking to people of different backgrounds, so even if it annoys some people of the fake accents, it's just like a relfex and alot of people can't help it.

This is a little off-topic but I work in a health shop, and an American man with a strong American accent came in. He pronounces "vitamin" differently from me, and when he was asking where he could find the B vitamins and such, I found it difficult to say "vitamin" in my own accent, even though I know very well that it wouldn't make any difference. I think it's just a self-concious habit and I didn't want to make the man feel as if I was correcting his accent.


I know what your driving at really.
It isn't suprise for one to try to speak in an accent to another foreigner for the sake of proper communication.
But what if we're looking at individual who speaks in such accent delibrately,where their enviroment has 0.01% westerners and they talk to their fellow friends in an accent as though they have lived in american/uk for 10 years?


Well that's a whole different matter. Haha, I just realised I've probably been coming at this conversation at the wrong angle. But anyway, to speak in another accent with no real reason to, like how you desrcibed, would really be quite annoying. Do they realise that they are doing it?
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animoo_x wrote:

When I go back to China and if I hear people speaking English or if people find out that I live in the UK, their English has always always got this weird American accent which I didn't understand. I only assumed that it's from watching US sitcoms or something.

However, later I found out it's because that's the way they are taught because English teachers in China are almost always from the US.


Yeah thats pretty much the same with Hong Kong. no offense but when singaporeans speak English with their accent it always makes me laugh



You should laugh harder at them because they more they speak in those accent,they seem to think as if others are going "WOW"
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darrylchan wrote:

I would like to remind this is about native asian WHO GREW UP IN ASIA but try to speak in a fake western accent to everyone and not western born asians returning to asia.
No OT please.


Sorry, sorry, I'll remove my comment.
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funny story - my boyfriend is visiting family in singapore at the moment - and we were on the phone, and his friend made a joke to me over the phone. i asked sam "what did he just say?" (as his family and friends often speak dialect) and they all started laughing. he explained that he had been teasing me "haha" i said "next time tell him it would have been funny if it was in english and i understood a word of what he just said" to which they all burst out laughing again. "whats so funny?" i asked...sam replied "he was speaking in english!"

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Ratmar wrote:


darrylchan wrote:


Ratmar wrote:


darrylchan wrote:


Ratmar wrote:

Yeah I know what you mean. I'm half english, raised in england so my accent is clearly british, but when people are faking accents they're not being true to themselves and their culture.

Though alot of people sometimes feel pressured to have a certain accent seeing as some people don't understand them when they talk in their original accents, I think. And so it introduces that insecurity of misunderstandings and so speaking in a aparticular accent often makes them more "understandable" in their heads, and so beating the whole point of being true to themselves.

It's difficult for me to have a go at people unless I know the route of why they choose to fake heir own accent.


Actually i like to know what western people thinks of native asian faking the accent.
I don't see how speaking in one's original language cease to make people understand another.
Singaporean are educated in english and their english is understandable unless we throw in the singlish which many will not use it when peaking to westerners.
I see no point in delibrately speakining in some western accents to be real honest.
My aunt's very close friend is a british and he visits us often.
When talking to him,i try not to talk in my tinge of accent and purposey try to make my speech snglish and yet he still understands!


I don't know. I'm not saying everyone, I mean, I understand! but I've seen a cluster of people that just go on to say they don't understand some accents. I don't know whether it's just being obnoxious or not listening properly.

I'm just saying that I think most people put on a western accent just because apparently its more "universal" or something. I think it's just a habit people have developed when talking to people of different backgrounds, so even if it annoys some people of the fake accents, it's just like a relfex and alot of people can't help it.

This is a little off-topic but I work in a health shop, and an American man with a strong American accent came in. He pronounces "vitamin" differently from me, and when he was asking where he could find the B vitamins and such, I found it difficult to say "vitamin" in my own accent, even though I know very well that it wouldn't make any difference. I think it's just a self-concious habit and I didn't want to make the man feel as if I was correcting his accent.


I know what your driving at really.
It isn't suprise for one to try to speak in an accent to another foreigner for the sake of proper communication.
But what if we're looking at individual who speaks in such accent delibrately,where their enviroment has 0.01% westerners and they talk to their fellow friends in an accent as though they have lived in american/uk for 10 years?


Well that's a whole different matter. Haha, I just realised I've probably been coming at this conversation at the wrong angle. But anyway, to speak in another accent with no real reason to, like how you desrcibed, would really be quite annoying. Do they realise that they are doing it?





Hell yes.
Hence,this topic.
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How do you fake an English accent? Wouldn't that be kind of like trying to have proper pronunciation? I know that my French pronunciation is terrible and I would have to be able to "fake" a French accent.

Or is there something like Singaporean English? Because then I suppose it would make sense. It would be pretty weird and annoying if someone in America faked British English all the time.
Posted 12/18/07
Well all the chinese guys (well ok cantonese mostly) I have known who spoke English had a really obvious chinese accent, which trust me they could never have hidden. Do they really try to talk with an english accent? (I incidently have a 100% natural upper class British accent lol, I sound like someone from those old war movies sometimes!)
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