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Life has no purpose if you don't believe that God exists. You live for a period of time and then what? You die, and after you die there is nothing, what is life without God? pointless its so stupid that if there was no God its better if we never did exist, we wouldn't need to suffer. But if there was a God its a different story, you die and you go to heaven (or hope to) which i think puts more meaning into life
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How exactly does the prospect of going to heaven after you die put more meaning into your life?

Life is about living, not about fantasizing about some kind of afterlife.

What's more meaningful, thinking you'll live only once and therefore live to the fullest? Or live looking forward to what you believe will be after your death?
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What's so meaningful about going to 'heaven'?
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Definitely. And I don't even believe in Heaven.

It's reassuring to think that something bigger, older, smarter than everything, is watching over you, and will remember you forever. Believeing that every thing we do is seen and remembered forever by God makes the things we do important, not trivial and pointless.

Eventually, all of humanity will die out, our inventions and writings, will crumple into dirt and be forgotten by time. Was it all for nothing? Was learning language, making computers, writing books, making music and movies and electricity— all of it, ruined and forgotten. Even if God doesn't exist, just believing in God infuses meaning into the accomplishments of humanity.

In my opinion, the opposite of religion isn't atheism, but nihilism. Nihilists believe in nothing. Oppositely, believeing God puts meaning in everything.
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Better than thinking life just ends,like what about people who had their lives taken by illness or murdered by someone?That isnt fair so at least you can believe they have somewhere to go....
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I don't get how God and heaven gives you purpose. What is that purpose? Enlighten me.
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cerisey wrote:

I don't get how God and heaven gives you purpose. What is that purpose? Enlighten me.


the purpose depends on what religion you follow. For Christians, our purpose is to be beings of worship, we were created to love and worship God. However, God had given us free will so that we may have the capacity to truly be beings of love and worship towards Him.
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cerisey wrote:


digs wrote:


cerisey wrote:

I don't get how God and heaven gives you purpose. What is that purpose? Enlighten me.


the purpose depends on what religion you follow. For Christians, our purpose is to be beings of worship, we were created to love and worship God. However, God had given us free will so that we may have the capacity to truly be beings of love and worship towards Him.


Unfortunately the purpose of worshipping God is not fulfilling enough for me. But thank you for answering, since I have asked a few times before and not been given an answer


Well, it can only be fulfilling if we have faith and the Holy Spirit. Hbr 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him. And you're welcome, if you have any other questions feel free to ask.
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Wouldn't it give our current lives less meaning, since it's just a stepping stone to the afterlife? If the only point of us being alive now is so that we can prove where we deserve to be in the afterlife, I don't see much "meaning" there.

Also, meaning is subjective. While some may feel that their lives have meaning if the leave behind some sort of legacy, that someone remembers all of their accomplishments, others like myself feel that wanting recognition for all of our deeds is trivial and selfish, and that as long as you do something that you feel is meaningful, then your life has meaning.
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Cuddlebuns wrote:

Wouldn't it give our current lives less meaning, since it's just a stepping stone to the afterlife? If the only point of us being alive now is so that we can prove where we deserve to be in the afterlife, I don't see much "meaning" there.


I think you are right and he is right too,

It is like you are walking a long way, if you know where you go, it is different that you don't know [meaningful]

However if you slip or lose something during that. Then you will be patient and will stand up again because you know that any condition you are in( in this life) is a temporary [ less meaning] that will help you to complete walking.




Edited: a try 2 clear up some confusion.
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Cuddlebuns wrote:

Wouldn't it give our current lives less meaning, since it's just a stepping stone to the afterlife? If the only point of us being alive now is so that we can prove where we deserve to be in the afterlife, I don't see much "meaning" there.


I think you are right and he is right too,

It is like you walk in a long way, when you know where to go is different that you don't know[meaningful]

However if you slip or lose something during that then you have to be patient and stand up again to complete walking because any condition you are in( in this world) is a temporary [ less meaning]


I don't know if you're using bad grammar or I just don't understand it, but your metaphor makes it 100 times more confusing than it actually is.


Real_ZERO wrote:
I think you are right and he is right too,

It is like you are walking a long way, if you know where you go, it is different that you don't know [meaningful]

However if you slip or lose something during that. Then you will be patient and will stand up again because you know that any condition you are in( in this life) is a temporary [ less meaning] that will help you to complete walking.




Edited: a try 2 clear up some confusion.


I think I get what you're trying to say now...

"The path through life is more meaningful if you know where you are going, but at the same time knowing the destination will cause you to underestimate the importance of the journey."

If that's what you're saying, then I have to disagree. Even non-believers know where their path leads (the end of their existence) but knowing that makes them value their journey even more, because they know there is no reward at the end and the journey is all they have to live for, so they appreciate it as much as possible.

People who do believe in an afterlife know that what they do along the journey will affect where their path leads them, so as long as they do certain things then they will end up in a good place. They don't care what they find along the path, as long as they do what they need to do in order to get to where they want to go, then they will be happy and won't care about any treasures that they find along the way since they won't matter in the end.
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Definitely. And I don't even believe in Heaven.

It's reassuring to think that something bigger, older, smarter than everything, is watching over you, and will remember you forever. Believing that every thing we do is seen and remembered forever by God makes the things we do important, not trivial and pointless.

Eventually, all of humanity will die out, our inventions and writings, will crumple into dirt and be forgotten by time. Was it all for nothing? Was learning language, making computers, writing books, making music and movies and electricity— all of it, ruined and forgotten. Even if God doesn't exist, just believing in God infuses meaning into the accomplishments of humanity.

In my opinion, the opposite of religion isn't atheism, but nihilism. Nihilists believe in nothing. Oppositely, believing God puts meaning in everything.

amen to that. i mean, if u were a little kid who was tempted to steal from ur classmate but u dint and you know you did something good, its nice to think someone knows you know? hahaha... yes, its not a very intelligent opinion. i suck at stuff like this even if it interests me.
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Cuddlebuns wrote:

Real_ZERO wrote:

Cuddlebuns wrote:

Wouldn't it give our current lives less meaning, since it's just a stepping stone to the afterlife? If the only point of us being alive now is so that we can prove where we deserve to be in the afterlife, I don't see much "meaning" there.


I think you are right and he is right too,

It is like you are walking a long way, if you know where you go, it is different that you don't know [meaningful]

However if you slip or lose something during that. Then you will be patient and will stand up again because you know that any condition you are in( in this life) is a temporary [ less meaning] that will help you to complete walking.


Edited: a try 2 clear up some confusion.


I think I get what you're trying to say now...

"The path through life is more meaningful if you know where you are going, but at the same time knowing the destination will cause you to underestimate the importance of the journey."

If that's what you're saying, then I have to disagree. Even non-believers know where their path leads (the end of their existence) but knowing that makes them value their journey even more, because they know there is no reward at the end and the journey is all they have to live for, so they appreciate it as much as possible.

People who do believe in an afterlife know that what they do along the journey will affect where their path leads them, so as long as they do certain things then they will end up in a good place. They don't care what they find along the path, as long as they do what they need to do in order to get to where they want to go, then they will be happy and won't care about any treasures that they find along the way since they won't matter in the end.


Exactly.
ur question was 'Wouldn't it give our current lives less meaning, since it's just a stepping stone to the afterlife?'
I think you mean by 'it' is the belief.

The answer is, yes and no , because the believers see that this life has a meaning and it is important as a path to the afterlife, but it is less meaning because it is not their eternal life.
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well if there is no god whats the point in life?
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-IRONMAN- wrote:

well if there is no god whats the point in life?


It's up to the individual to decide what their life means to them.

If there is a god then what's the point in life? To be a tool to carry out their will, or to be entertainment for them to pass the time? I'd much rather live a meaningless life than live as someone's puppet.
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