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I think I would probably conclude that yes, being religious does give your life more meaning. Even though, as Xeiom said, your beliefs have no actual effect on what happens after you die (unless the universe is super-benevolent and gives everyone the afterlife they expect to have), this argument does not bring into consideration that like 'belief', 'meaning' is a subjective element.

Whether your life has meaning or not is something that only you can decide, and so it works something like free will: the illusion of it existing is, for all intents and purposes, the same as it actually existing. Believing in a higher power and an afterlife adds more structure to your worldview, and allows you to feel as though your existence is a more tangible and permanent thing. What I'm saying is that the result is irrelevant to meaning, but that belief is extremely relevant.

However, I'd also like to point out that although religion is probably the most effective way to give your life meaning, there are plenty of people who don't need their life to have meaning. I fall into this category myself. I'm agnostic, and generally prescribe to the idea that it's impossible for humans to know anything entirely, including whether or not there's an afterlife or a greater power. Many religious people would find this sad or pathetic, but I wouldn't be able to live any other way. For me, possibilities are more interesting than facts. I'm capable of sincerely believing in different, probably contradictory ideas throughout the course of a day, or even simultaneously, because I'd rather stock my brain up with hypotheticals than decide on one and call it the truth.

There are plenty of people who are the opposite of me in this regard too. A lot of the people who go on to do great things are capable of that because they choose not to seek meaning in their lives, but instead go for the next best thing: a legacy. Since meaning is subjective, a legacy doesn't in any way affect whether their lives have meaning, as a legacy is something the person leaving it will never experience. Rather, they don't need meaning in their lives for those lives to be fulfilling.

Basically, considering your life to have meaning is only one of the available paths to fulfilment, not the only one. You don't necessarily need meaning in your life to be happy. Maybe you're the type who can replace it with something else, or maybe you're the type who's simply not interested in it. Conversely, maybe you aren't, and believing brings an irreplaceable and necessary sort of fulfilment for you; that's fine too. How you make yourself happy is entirely based on what it takes to make you happy, and that will not necessarily be the same as for someone else.
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Yes. We live to pray and speak of god existent. My life would be meaningless if I did not have god as a shield.
God is watching over us while we manipulate each other. Which is the cause of war. In our eyes we see people as an object.
Chess piece of God. He controls our life and minds. Every one is apart of God and God is apart of everyone.

The only thing is.. he see's what we see but we will never get to see what he see's. I pray one day that my God will answer me. I believe he will in a matter of time. Which should be now..
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im not going to read all of this but what i have read i noticed one thing its a fight over meaning and i truly believe you can have meaning without god but i do believe in god and my life is improving but also you cant just live to get into heaven whats the fun in that you can live for the people you love and if you get into heaven cool but to look at your life and say i have done great things i should get into heaven just remember its not about what you did Jesus loves all of us so i would start thinking of ways to show everyone you love them but i agree with certain points like you definitely can go too far in religion not just the terrorism aspect but the aspect of not letting those in who don't believe once you start thinking your better than anyone because you have god in your life its not right since if you know anything about Jesus he came for the sick and the broken it was the pharisees the ones who thought they where higher than thou so just for purposes what was the reason for making this forum in the first place are you doing it to tell people there lives are meaningless without god if so you my friend are a pharisee and i would get off the pedestal the more i read the more i agree with those that dont believe because they see worth in the life they have i love my life and if i go to heaven cool and i reach out but i wont force my beliefs on someone if they ask i will tell but what i have learned is that alot of the extreamist are just doing nothing while the world decays and thats wrong how many christians do you see helping the city they live in and how many of them worship god on a daily basis there has to be a balance i agree but if you truely love god reach out to the people who dont show them that you care have you done homeless ministry or even painted over graphiti do you live to serve people will you act like a slave for those who are your friends its hard but remember that you said god gave you worth and if you didnt have god you woulda committed suicide before god i was a drug addict and a bad person technically im still a bad person because we are all created in sin and jesus forgives our sins but then people say that you have to try your hardest to not sin and thats work since we are all born in sin but also god loves us that he would bless us with the holy spirit and also when you decide that you want to save lives look to the broken but never put yourself higher than them because without god you are nothing correct thats kinda what your saying and i also agree with you but please remember that we technically are gentiles and so please just be more carring in your words dont lash out onto people because they have different beliefs your no better than them and god loves them just the same as he loves you so please dont condemn anyone and sorry for lashing out i was just confused on how you can tell people that there lives are meaningless without god when god created them so they have a meaning even if they dont come to god they still have a chance at getting into heaven i learned the hard way that its those that worship god and do nothing else are the ones who are suffering
Posted 7/26/13 , edited 7/26/13
You can be a bit of pessimistic cunt whether you're religious or not.



I would like to introduce you to the full stop and the comma. Not to detract from some of the good points you made there though.
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If u believe in god it makes it more easy to give meaning to life because their is already dozens of complexes and a huge social support of it that is very convincing and brainwashing from birth... you can see the power of god and that make's it hard to deny a god exists... or you can try to find meaning in life your own way by creating your own self supporting complex and beliefs strong like that of god worshippers.. you can try and spread those beliefs and try to overthrow god as the dominant power... this psychology stuff is very interseting by the way..
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Believing in God gives you hope.

If God doesn't exist, why are we here for? everything happens by chance, coincidence? I don't know.

I was very religious back then but now...I think I might becoming an agnostic, I don't know why there's something in me that doesn't want to accept God completely as I think that without money Life has no meaning.

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The meaning of life is to evolve and see how far humanity can progress in our own life times. Nobody has lived a full life and the world stayed the same from when they were born to when they die, society and humanity is constantly evolving, with no definitive goal in sight. "God" and religion only seek to comfort the weak minded individuals that can't comprehend that existence in it self means nothing, and we give ourselves our own meaning, not some man in the sky.
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Kyouma wrote:

The meaning of life is to evolve and see how far humanity can progress in our own life times. Nobody has lived a full life and the world stayed the same from when they were born to when they die, society and humanity is constantly evolving, with no definitive goal in sight. "God" and religion only seek to comfort the weak minded individuals that can't comprehend that existence in it self means nothing, and we give ourselves our own meaning, not some man in the sky.


I know people who truly believe God exist and their faith is so strong that nothing will make them cry. I think their faith makes them stronger...those who truly belief don't cheat on their partners, don't fall in drugs and they face problems calmly. They're far from being weak minded individuals in my book.

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Kyouma wrote:

The meaning of life is to evolve and see how far humanity can progress in our own life times. Nobody has lived a full life and the world stayed the same from when they were born to when they die, society and humanity is constantly evolving, with no definitive goal in sight. "God" and religion only seek to comfort the weak minded individuals that can't comprehend that existence in it self means nothing, and we give ourselves our own meaning, not some man in the sky.


I know people who truly believe God exist and their faith is so strong that nothing will make them cry. I think their faith makes them stronger...those who truly belief don't cheat on their partners, don't fall in drugs and they face problems calmly. They're far from being weak minded individuals in my book.

But when every action that a certain group of the population finds disagreeable is tied to the word "sin" there comes the problem of associating every immoral act as an equivalent exchange, and something that can simply be exchanged for asking for forgiveness.

Let's turn it around from the accusations of immorality you usually hear pointed at atheists: If I truly believed in God and an afterlife, what would stop me from raping and murdering if those acts are simply sins that can be forgiven as long as I ask for it before I die? I might spend some time in jail but that would be nothing compared to hell. Besides since I asked for forgiveness and will not have a chance to sin anymore while in jail, I'm sure to go to heaven when I die. It's no coincidence that about 99% of inmates in the U.S. are self described Christians.

As an atheist I have a drive to be a good person because your life is the only life you'll ever have and once its gone, you're gone. I think the best way to make the most out of your precious life is to stay out of trouble and do the most good you can possibly do. I mean look at how much it sucks to get a simple speeding ticket. That's a big downer, so just abide by our human-made laws and the expectations people have of you and you'll be rewarded with people doing the same for you. It's not that difficult.
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Posted 8/13/13

le_ciel wrote:

How exactly does the prospect of going to heaven after you die put more meaning into your life?

Life is about living, not about fantasizing about some kind of afterlife.

What's more meaningful, thinking you'll live only once and therefore live to the fullest? Or live looking forward to what you believe will be after your death?


Hit the nail on the head, as far as I'm concerned. I used to attend a baptist church regularly, but the amount of hypocrisy there just plain disgusted me. I'm not very religious... I'd say I'm more "spiritual", I suppose.

Although, I'd like to think that you do "just die". The prospect of living forever, even in a so-called "heaven" doesn't sound very appealing to me.

But do you really die if you live on in memory with and in the hearts of people who were close to you? Sure, someday you'll probably be forgotten, but just existing and taking life day-by-day and living it up how I want is pretty "meaningful" to me.

Making memories is what gives my life meaning.
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For those who believe it probably makes their lives better but I think someone who associates with no religion or a "god" is just as happy as someone who doesn't believe. Both are living their lives one does it to please and do good deeds for their "god" and the other group is just good to be good.
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But when every action that a certain group of the population finds disagreeable is tied to the word "sin" there comes the problem of associating every immoral act as an equivalent exchange, and something that can simply be exchanged for asking for forgiveness.

Let's turn it around from the accusations of immorality you usually hear pointed at atheists: If I truly believed in God and an afterlife, what would stop me from raping and murdering if those acts are simply sins that can be forgiven as long as I ask for it before I die? I might spend some time in jail but that would be nothing compared to hell. Besides since I asked for forgiveness and will not have a chance to sin anymore while in jail, I'm sure to go to heaven when I die. It's no coincidence that about 99% of inmates in the U.S. are self described Christians.

As an atheist I have a drive to be a good person because your life is the only life you'll ever have and once its gone, you're gone. I think the best way to make the most out of your precious life is to stay out of trouble and do the most good you can possibly do. I mean look at how much it sucks to get a simple speeding ticket. That's a big downer, so just abide by our human-made laws and the expectations people have of you and you'll be rewarded with people doing the same for you. It's not that difficult.


This is the problem: people don't understand what sin is. Sin is bad actions yes but that was only said by God to makes us understand what sin is. Thing is, for God even an unborn baby is a sinner. We are born in sin (which is the punishment of adam and eve for disobeying God) so no matter how good or bad you are, you're still a sinner unless God forgives you. As for forgiveness, don't believe that you are forgiven if you pray for it, God is not stupid. The Bible says that God sees the HEART of a person, not his acts or words so if you kill and steal and then just ask for forgiveness thinking that it was easy cake, you are a fool. God knows beforehand the people He will forgive, He knows their hearts already and only God can forgive... our actions or words won't bring us salvation if we really don't feel anything for God. I agree with your last paragraph, though.

Oh and one last thing, the Bible says that most people who call themselves believers of God or what we call christians are not really of God because their mouths worship God but their hearts are cold as ice. Most God's people are the lost...the ones on the streets, the lowest people on earth. Call yourself an angel and God will send you to hell... something like that. I wonder if people really read the WHOLE Bible???? because this is all in the Bible but people are still confused and lost as to what sin and forgiveness really is...
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Is life more meaningful when you believe God exist? I guess I have an odd take on the whole thing but I don't think God has to be in your life for it to be meaningful. Personally I don't believe God exists (used to but not anymore) and I believe nothing is going to happen after I die. That makes me think the life I'm living right now, should be lived to the fullest. If I live life as I want to and to the fullest to me that makes life more meaningful.
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I don't like the idea of deciding for other people whether their lives are meaningful.
For me, life is more meaningful being a completely atheist, non-religious and non-spiritual person. I don't believe that there is anything after this one life.
That inspires me to accomplish and change things before my time is up.
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For those who believe willingly I guess.
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