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Post Reply Is Life more meaningful when you believe that God exists?
Posted 5/6/13
No. I'm the one who steps foot on this earth. This life .. is meaningful bcuz I got my family and people who loves me all around me.

The end.
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Posted 5/8/13
Perhaps it is just up to people to decide what makes life meaningful, we all have a mind so we all chase somesthing and whether it maybe god or legacies it is something we choose
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Posted 5/9/13
To me, yes. There's no right or wrong answer for this, so I don't think trying to shove your opinion down someone's throat here is going to do you much at all.

I'm Christian, but I also know there's a difference between trying to help someone believe in God and being a complete d-bag to someone who either has their own ironclad/established opinion and or is not ready to open up yet.

To further elaborate on my answer, it is now slowly becoming more meaningful for me because I have just now started to read, pray, and start pondering about these things. I haven't been a devout Christian at all in my younger days, partly because of the churches I attended, but I'm now in a place where I can be comfortable and the pastor is very nice at explaining things.

Going to mission trips across the world, spreading the word, and etc. will keep encouraging me.
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Posted 5/9/13
Not really... I think death would be more meaningful though
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Posted 5/26/13
It really depends on what Faith you adhere to, but in the end, it boils down to whether or not you believe in free will. If you do, then life will as meaningfull as it'll ever get, regardless of whether or not you believe in God. If you don't believe in free will, life is meaningless. This is because without free will, everything is out of your control and there is nothing you can do about anything because even you are out of your own control.
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Posted 5/27/13

-IRONMAN- wrote:

Life has no purpose if you don't believe that God exists. You live for a period of time and then what? You die, and after you die there is nothing, what is life without God? pointless its so stupid that if there was no God its better if we never did exist, we wouldn't need to suffer. But if there was a God its a different story, you die and you go to heaven (or hope to) which i think puts more meaning into life


Okay, so you think that when you die, you go to heaven, that is understandable, Alot of people wonder what happens when you die, Do you go to Heaven if your " Good "? or to hell if your bad?

Okay, Ironman, lets not go for personal opinions as to what is the case,

1st Question: Do all good people go to heaven?

Acts 2:34: “David [whom the Bible refers to as being ‘a man agreeable to Jehovah’s heart’] did not ascend to the heavens.”

Matt. 11:11: “Truly I say to you people, Among those born of women there has not been raised up a greater than John the Baptist; but a person that is a lesser one in the kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is.” (So John did not go to heaven when he died.)

Ps. 37:9, 11, 29: “Evildoers themselves will be cut off, but those hoping in Jehovah are the ones that will possess the earth . . . The meek ones themselves will possess the earth, and they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace. The righteous themselves will possess the earth, and they will reside forever upon it.”

Ironman, I have a question for you, If Adam had not sinned, would he eventually have gone to heaven?

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Posted 5/27/13
i actually disagree that life is meaningless with out beliefs, to start im an atheist, but that doesnt make life any less meaningful. life is all about perception, how you choose to live your life. you can have no beliefs but do things that make you happy and have hobbies or jobs you love in life, the afterlife is more of the focus here. ya you may see it as nothing happens when you die but that doesnt mean anything. if there was no belief in the afterlife then would everyone just commit suicide? because hey we all die and nothing happens so whats the point in living? but thats not the case, we make life what we want it to be, religion is just a human creation to make some people feel better about life, its just a coping mechanism, its what humans do and the mental guidlines we set up to keep from going insane or just quiting on life. it gives them a drive, but everyone is different they do different things other then religion for that drive. we look for things to make us happy, for some that may be religion, for others its something to fight for, and others its just enjoying the life you have and making the most of it. so i dont think life has tobe meaningless without god. if anyone wants to discuss this topic more please feel free to pm me :)

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Posted 5/28/13
PEOPLE ALWAYS SEEM TO HAVE THE WRONG IDEA ABOUT GOD, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN HIM.

Existentialism points out the absurdity of life without God.

Have you seen Waiting for Gotot, or The Zoo Story? Two well known avant garde plays.

On a side note, Here's a very intelligent video that answers the very basic question, "What is God, exactly?", from a Christian or monotheistic view, of course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_Yjue8MXAI

Back on topic, the premise of an Existentialist or nihilistic worldview is simple: All of existence, and life itself, all our struggles and successes, are ultimately trivial; pointless, and absurd. It would be up to each individual person to make up some facade of meaning in their life. Morals and the differences of good and bad are ALL relative.

However, if a person would acknowledge some kind of God, or first mover, a person outside of the created universe and all existence; someone who not only created something out of nothing (creatio ex nihilo) in the beginning, but makes it clear that (he) is Love, justice, all the goodness, and the meaning of life itself, then it is not just a facade that keeps a person going about their absurd existence.

There is truth, on which humankind feels fully alive when they live by it.
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Posted 6/12/13
My Point of view:( perhaps a little off subject)
Yes life is more meaningful if you beleive that God exist,logically speaking,men just did'nt came to be by itself,therefore someone created him,its pointless to say that men just came into existence by itself,
lets take an example,lets see a digital camera,its a wonderful invention which was inspired by a human eye,lets say if men did not invent it,it would have come into existence by itself?,a perfectly cut glass on a very unique metal,fixed in such a way it cannot be nudged,a lens came out of nowhere and fitted itself in that with a zoom in and focus function,can this be true?
I mean to say its such a beauty how men is made,our body structure is quite amazing,it functions quite specifically,its very complex and a human spends quite alot of time just knowing how it functions,can this come to be by itself? and since this is not the topic i guess i'll move on,sorry

When one beleives in God one beleive's in afterlife,even if someone does not beleive in God he can beleive in afterlife,
why?
If we look at our everyday life whenever something ends something new comes up,a student gives one exams and then studies for the next,when one work is done men moves to do another,after one things ends its a beginning of something new,so 'death' which we call the end of life in this world,comes,it would mean a new beginning,some people will say that 'you mean it could be second life in this world' then no i don't mean that,since the world is rotting everyday,it will 1 day come to an end therefore considering coming back to this world is pointless,
what will happen when one 'dies'?no i mean seriously what would you feel?nothing?a question one should ask themselves
As far as Heaven and Hell are taken into notice,if there is a heaven and hell(i beleive that there is,i'm just saying that for you guys) then one would find more pleasure in doing good deeds in this world,since no one gets rewarded(completely) for all the good he does,and since the bad isnt punished in this world(mostly) therefore it can be taken into note that a time will come when,every single person will be rewarded for their good,and all the bad will be punished
That's heaven and hell for you.
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Posted 6/12/13
living meekly with hopes of a big pay out in the end is a pretty sorry state of being.

i think the religious people dont understand how long eternity is.

if humans lived for hundreds of billions of of years, that would still only be a grain of sand on the beach of eternity. do you really think god would even notice the microbes living on a single grain of sand beneath his feet?
do you notice the ant as you drive down the road in your car?
why would god care about something so small and short lived as humans?


enjoy your life now because, sadly, its all you will ever have.
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Posted 6/12/13
the question i have is where did god come from? and for that matter where did the first particle that went boom come from? to me this is all a moot point because no matter how much you argue on this point it is up to the individual to decide. but i do like having discussions on this subject just to see how others perceive the universe around them. i personally find it amazing anything exists in the first place.

i think religion should stop trying to decide who is right and wrong. there are very few people on this planet who haven't heard of some form of religion. all seem to be the same. some form of god or gods and an afterlife if your good you go someplace nice if your bad you go someplace not so nice. i will listen to religion the moment the children of Abraham get along.

science should stick to figuring out a way to help humanity expand off this little speck of dust and out to the rest of our solar system then our galaxy then our universe. once we view our universe from more than one angle then we can start to think about how this improbable universe came to be. science is about gathering information and making a best judgment on that information. we can only do so much from here.

from all that i have learned it seems quite impossible for anything to exist but yet here we are. since we are impossible that means anything is possible lets try to make the best of it.
Posted 6/13/13
This thread for some reason reminds me of


“The Tyger”

Tyger Tyger, burning bright,
In the forests of the night;
What immortal hand or eye,
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?

In what distant deeps or skies.
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand, dare seize the fire?

And what shoulder, & what art,
Could twist the sinews of thy heart?
And when thy heart began to beat,
What dread hand? & what dread feet?

What the hammer? what the chain,
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the anvil? what dread grasp,
Dare its deadly terrors clasp!

When the stars threw down their spears
And water’d heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the Lamb make thee?

Tyger Tyger burning bright,
In the forests of the night:
What immortal hand or eye,
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?




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Posted 6/13/13

TheRealEscargotpudding wrote:

Not really... I think death would be more meaningful though
I love this. If people lived forever, they probably wouldn't make haste to make the most of their life since they can do it other time
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Posted 6/15/13

Cuddlebuns wrote:


-IRONMAN- wrote:

well if there is no god whats the point in life?


It's up to the individual to decide what their life means to them.

If there is a god then what's the point in life? To be a tool to carry out their will, or to be entertainment for them to pass the time? I'd much rather live a meaningless life than live as someone's puppet.


To -IRONMAN- -For my opinion, life will be meaningful if you know you're purpose (which you could invent), knows how to do that purpose and of course a GUIDE who is God. In my life, being a believer of God is being a soldier for Him too! You'll see and feel one day how God loves you and He is just being there. As being told in the book of Revelations God is in a flesh.

To Cuddlebuns - What you've said is good! Stig!

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Posted 6/18/13
It's a complete non sequitur to claim "your life has no meaning if you don't believe in god."

Besides, there is much more beauty, truth, and wisdom if you take the freedom of thinking for yourself and not some non-existent celestial dictator.
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