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Posted 2/28/09

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Wouldn't it give our current lives less meaning, since it's just a stepping stone to the afterlife? If the only point of us being alive now is so that we can prove where we deserve to be in the afterlife, I don't see much "meaning" there.


I think you are right and he is right too,

It is like you walk in a long way, when you know where to go is different that you don't know[meaningful]

However if you slip or lose something during that then you have to be patient and stand up again to complete walking because any condition you are in( in this world) is a temporary [ less meaning]


I don't know if you're using bad grammar or I just don't understand it, but your metaphor makes it 100 times more confusing than it actually is.


Real_ZERO wrote:
I think you are right and he is right too,

It is like you are walking a long way, if you know where you go, it is different that you don't know [meaningful]

However if you slip or lose something during that. Then you will be patient and will stand up again because you know that any condition you are in( in this life) is a temporary [ less meaning] that will help you to complete walking.




Edited: a try 2 clear up some confusion.


I think I get what you're trying to say now...

"The path through life is more meaningful if you know where you are going, but at the same time knowing the destination will cause you to underestimate the importance of the journey."

If that's what you're saying, then I have to disagree. Even non-believers know where their path leads (the end of their existence) but knowing that makes them value their journey even more, because they know there is no reward at the end and the journey is all they have to live for, so they appreciate it as much as possible.

People who do believe in an afterlife know that what they do along the journey will affect where their path leads them, so as long as they do certain things then they will end up in a good place. They don't care what they find along the path, as long as they do what they need to do in order to get to where they want to go, then they will be happy and won't care about any treasures that they find along the way since they won't matter in the end.


thats not completely true about all believers, i find all kinds of stuff on the path in this world that mean a lot to me (such as martial arts).It may not mean ne thing in the end either way, but i still treasure it reguardless.And many religious people dont use this life as a "stepping stone" any more. They stopped that back in America's early conlonization. We wouldnt be living in modern society if we believed none of this mattered. peace over war


I agree with you 2, I care about all of the stuff on the path, but lack something or loss one shouldn't bother me so much, that's what I am trying to explain, I never meant that this life is stepping stone [ because when you are travelling, you're supposed to use all means of comfort that help you to get your destination as well as to enjoy your travel as possible]
Walking barefoot, or starving yourself (i.e. monasticism)will not help you to reach your goal but may cause you
give up in a moment of weakness.

God had not created this beautiful life in jest;
contemplating the creation of it, strengthen the faith.
enjoying the life, help us to always be grateful to God.

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I completely disagree with the OP. I think life is just fine with no belief in God.
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I completely disagree with the OP. I think life is just fine with no belief in God.




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Wat would u do in heaven pray, go to church for eternity? Sounds like total hell to me, i dont think i want to be a slave to the supreme god force to to do nothing more than worship this guy. Please its ridiculous i believe the meaning of life is to just to live; true u die in the end but its a never ending cycle of rebirth. Stop wasting time looking for meaning its right in front of ur eyes.
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I don't get how God and heaven gives you purpose. What is that purpose? Enlighten me.


the purpose depends on what religion you follow. For Christians, our purpose is to be beings of worship, we were created to love and worship God. However, God had given us free will so that we may have the capacity to truly be beings of love and worship towards Him.


Why? Wat purpose do get out of worshiping this guy forever, does that really sound fun to?
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^ Actually, we will have jobs in heaven, live in mansions, have a perfect society, and be one with God. It's going to be perfect and won't be bad for anyone. We don't even have the full picture of how amazing it will be.

Heaven will be joyful to us, not a burden or boring. It's going to be the perfect blessing and no one is going to feel bad about it.
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^ Actually, we will have jobs in heaven, live in mansions, have a perfect society, and be one with God. It's going to be perfect and won't be bad for anyone. We don't even have the full picture of how amazing it will be.

Heaven will be joyful to us, not a burden or boring. It's going to be the perfect blessing and no one is going to feel bad about it.


People will have jobs in heaven? And everyone will live in mansions?..

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Yei wrote:


digs wrote:

^ Actually, we will have jobs in heaven, live in mansions, have a perfect society, and be one with God. It's going to be perfect and won't be bad for anyone. We don't even have the full picture of how amazing it will be.

Heaven will be joyful to us, not a burden or boring. It's going to be the perfect blessing and no one is going to feel bad about it.


People will have jobs in heaven? And everyone will live in mansions?..



Apparently yes, people who did good things and believe God would live in best place in heaven. I don't know about jobs, though.
If people who did good things but in poor condition while was in the world, then it's not fair if they do not enjoy luxury in heaven. And just being rebirth again and again.
I think the idea of cycle of birth is not fair from begin with. imo
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digs wrote:

^ Actually, we will have jobs in heaven, live in mansions, have a perfect society, and be one with God. It's going to be perfect and won't be bad for anyone. We don't even have the full picture of how amazing it will be.

Heaven will be joyful to us, not a burden or boring. It's going to be the perfect blessing and no one is going to feel bad about it.


Sounds awfully materialistic. I might be confusing religions, but doesn't Jesus mention abandoning attachment to worldly possessions (like mansions) in order to be closer to God? I thought that's why he lived in poverty.
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digs wrote:

^ Actually, we will have jobs in heaven, live in mansions, have a perfect society, and be one with God. It's going to be perfect and won't be bad for anyone. We don't even have the full picture of how amazing it will be.

Heaven will be joyful to us, not a burden or boring. It's going to be the perfect blessing and no one is going to feel bad about it.


Sounds awfully materialistic. I might be confusing religions, but doesn't Jesus mention abandoning attachment to worldly possessions (like mansions) in order to be closer to God? I thought that's why he lived in poverty.


that's true, but that's only applies to this world not the world after death.
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Why do we need an after life to appreciate life? The thought that we are so caught up in what is to come afterwards takes away from the one life that we live is pointless. I know I have this life and with this life I will do my best to appreciate all I have around me and to one day become part of the earth we all have come from. The thought that I can be one with the earth again comforts me. My shell of a body will exist even in its decomposing state to exist in a way that may help the earth.

God is something that humans create because they are afraid of death.... death is part of life. One may not wish for death to come but it is inevitable. I, at such a young age, have come to realize that death, like everything else in your life, is something one must feel at peace with before truly cherishing each day that comes to us.
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digs wrote:

^ Actually, we will have jobs in heaven, live in mansions, have a perfect society, and be one with God. It's going to be perfect and won't be bad for anyone. We don't even have the full picture of how amazing it will be.

Heaven will be joyful to us, not a burden or boring. It's going to be the perfect blessing and no one is going to feel bad about it.


That sounds all types of messed up to me. Why would you need a job in heaven anyways?
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digs wrote:

^ Actually, we will have jobs in heaven, live in mansions, have a perfect society, and be one with God. It's going to be perfect and won't be bad for anyone. We don't even have the full picture of how amazing it will be.

Heaven will be joyful to us, not a burden or boring. It's going to be the perfect blessing and no one is going to feel bad about it.


That sounds all types of messed up to me. Why would you need a job in heaven anyways?


Because heaven also in economic downturn, haha, Aside of job, I think all of what he said are true.
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Ryutai-Desk wrote:


latigra22787 wrote:


digs wrote:

^ Actually, we will have jobs in heaven, live in mansions, have a perfect society, and be one with God. It's going to be perfect and won't be bad for anyone. We don't even have the full picture of how amazing it will be.

Heaven will be joyful to us, not a burden or boring. It's going to be the perfect blessing and no one is going to feel bad about it.


That sounds all types of messed up to me. Why would you need a job in heaven anyways?


Because heaven also in economic downturn, haha, Aside of job, I think all of what he said are true.


If you read my post prior to that you will see my real thoughts on this whole thread topic.
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Why do we need an after life to appreciate life? The thought that we are so caught up in what is to come afterwards takes away from the one life that we live is pointless. I know I have this life and with this life I will do my best to appreciate all I have around me and to one day become part of the earth we all have come from. The thought that I can be one with the earth again comforts me. My shell of a body will exist even in its decomposing state to exist in a way that may help the earth.

God is something that humans create because they are afraid of death.... death is part of life. One may not wish for death to come but it is inevitable. I, at such a young age, have come to realize that death, like everything else in your life, is something one must feel at peace with before truly cherishing each day that comes to us.


Are you a non-believer?
If yes, do you think it'd be fair to kind people who lived in poor condition without being praised of their life in after life?
Then if we do not think of our life after death or do not believe such thing as hell, then many people would care less of what they do in this world when they alive, if they do not believe of hell, it'd encourages people to do bad things that only benefit themselves such as robbery.
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