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Tipping in the US
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I always turn down tips and I refuse to give money to beggers.
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Sir_jamesalot wrote:

I always turn down tips and I refuse to give money to beggers.


What the fuck?! They need money to buy booze you selfish bastard.
Posted 1/8/12
i only tip if theres no water charg or tipping is the waters pay cheach
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Sir_jamesalot wrote:

I always turn down tips and I refuse to give money to beggers.


I don't blame you, and I don't give a shit if people thinks we're mean. I'm not that stupid to give just anyone begging some money. I will only give if it sounds legit, which sadly is very rarely.

Only a moron raised/brainwashed on political correctness would just give give give to anyone saying to them "ohh sir/ma'am may I please have a dollar to get on the bus", yet the man/woman looks like a damn junkie needing the hit. But instead of using common sense, you idiots bashing me and Sir_jamesalot will give them the money!!!

As for tips, I only give a dollar or two if they do a good job. I reward excellence, not half-assed.
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The pizza man doesn't give ME a tip, but I'm expected to just fork over my hard-earned cash? What has he done to deserve my money?
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I don't tip. And you know why? Every single menu I've looked at recently has at the bottom: "A discretionary 10% service charge has been added to your bill."
Posted 1/8/12
I tip for sex.
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15-20% is the general accepted amount, also assuming a tip isn't automatically added onto your bill. Why do I know something this boring? LOL
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There are SO MANY things that I could say here.
First... (and it varies from state to state) most servers are paid $2.25 an hour. That doesn't even cover taxes. We rely on tips for our income NOT our hourly wage.
Standard gratuity for standard service is 15%. For excellent service it's 20%.
And if you are using a coupon or a gift card you should tip on the full amount, not on the discounted total. You didn't receive discounted service, did you??
If you don't have the money to tip, you don't have the money to go out. PERIOD!!! Your financial problems are far too large already and you shouldn't be out at a fancy restaurant. Stick to what you can afford.
Don't run your server like a rented mule. If they ask you if there is anything else you would like, think about the question BEFORE your server leaves the table. More than likely YOU are not their only guest.
READ THE MENU..... It is NOT our job to give you a full verbal run down of the entire menu because you are too lazy to read the menu in front of your face. We are happy to answer any questions you have about the menu items but don't expect us to "storybook" the menu for you.
If you are going to "camp" at your table, you better TIP well. The longer you sit the less chance that server has to make money on that table again. Consider it rent.
If your entree is not cooked correctly, it's NOT your servers fault. We have never even been behind the cook line. EVER!! So don't express your displeasure by giving a crappy tip. Any server will try to correct the mistake. Give them the chance to do so. If it's still not right, it comes off the check. But don't eat everything but one bite and then complain and expect it to come off the check. It makes you look like a scamming bum and the staff will remember you.
In most places, your server has to tip out other staff members. (the service assistant who keeps your water glass full and your bread and butter fresh, the bartender who makes your drink and the food runner who carries heavy trays to the table and sometimes even the door host who brought you to the table.) And they make a much higher hourly wage than your server does.
Believe it or not, your server is the brains. They are required to know all the ingredients in all the menu items. They have to know what kind of liquor the bar stocks, what kind of beer and the ever changing wine by the glass menu. They have to know pretty much everything about the restaurant, sometimes even it's corporate history or where the meat and fish comes from and how it's prepared. They are the ones who do all they can to be sure that your experience is seamless and enjoyable.They not only have to remember what is going on at your table but also what's going on at four other tables. They are the ones who work on holidays to help you and your family have a memorable time.
If you think serving is easy........ DO IT!! I DARE YOU!!!
If you believe that your server only works in a restaurant because that is the only job that they can get...... you would be wrong. The majority of servers are educated and often degreed individuals who have worked in varying corporate america jobs and have chosen food service for its flexability and ready cash benefit over the 9 to 5 grind. Some are perusing their education and paying off student loans as they both work and study. They are multi-taskers extraordinaire with the patience of Job.
It is my belief that everyone should be required to work in the restaurant industry for a minimum of one year. You should have to rely on it for your sole income. Maybe then, selfish, jerks wouldn't go out in public and inflict their ignorance on those that bust their asses every day. Your lack of manners WILL come back to bite you in the ass. Treat others as you would like to be treated if your positions were reversed.


I could go on but I think you get the point. And so you know, I am aware that there are some crappy servers out there but for every crappy server there are hundreds of crappy guest who clearly don't know how to behave in public. If people came to your job and acted like idiots you wouldn't be willing to give your best to them either, would you??


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This seems to depend on the country. In a lot of countries, Europe, UK and Australia - the service staff are not working for tips. They have a decent hourly wage and so tip is a bit extra. In many European countries, they don't even leave a tip. In Australia it was a big debate because while the service staff do make minimum wage, their yearly salary is usually about $25,000 before taxes. $25,000 isn't much and so tips can literally help them put food on the table (well, at least MORE food or better quality food then they could without it). So tipping is encouraged but not common - one of the reasons Australian have a bad reputation as tourists as we are simply not used to tipping and so don't when travelling.

The situation seems to be similar in the UK, at least as far as I can tell since moving here. Tipping certainly more common here in the UK then it used to be in Australia. I usually leave a tip when eating at restaurants. I don't get pizza delivery all that often and I don't remember if I tipped the guy the last time I did get delivery or not. I sometimes leave the change when I get take-away but you must understand I eat at this take-away restaurant a lot and they always give me free drinks while I wait. So I am happy to live something in the tip plate they have near the cashier.

As for everything else, I general tip if I feel I have given the service provider trouble or if they have gone out of their way for me. For example, I once turned-up at a walking tour without the 8 GBP cash for the walk. The ATM around the meeting place were all busted but the guide was kind enough to let me go on the walk anyway and after the walk ended, walked with me some distance to a working ATM. So I got out a 10 GBP note and left the change as a tip. But if they are just doing their job and I already paid for the service... yeah, no.

However, it is important to remember that the situation is very different in the US where a lot of people make a very small "base salary" and tips are the chief of their income. As such, I was very careful to always tip when I was visiting the US.
Posted 1/9/12
If they're good, I go 15%.

If they're average, I go 10%.

If they suck, no tip for you! -chuckles-
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I am a big tipper when I am at a place that you tip at, but I am pretty cheap usually. Like, I'll go pick up my pizza instead of having it delivered. Plus, I smoke a cigarette in the car on the way
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dvddiva wrote:And if you are using a coupon or a gift card you should tip on the full amount, not on the discounted total. You didn't receive discounted service, did you??


I only agree 100% on the gift card since it's just a method of payment, NOT a discount. If it's a coupon, it depends on the service. In other words, if the service is really horrible, I am not going to consider that I used a coupon. If the service was wonderful, I will 100% for certain very much consider that I used a coupon.


If you don't have the money to tip, you don't have the money to go out. PERIOD!!! Your financial problems are far too large already and you shouldn't be out at a fancy restaurant. Stick to what you can afford.


I 100% FULLY AGREE!!


Don't run your server like a rented mule. If they ask you if there is anything else you would like, think about the question BEFORE your server leaves the table. More than likely YOU are not their only guest.


While I totally agree with you on this, at the same time, I have had times when servers are just TOO LAZY TO WRITE THINGS DOWN YOU ASK FOR, THEN FORGET, all because you asked for MANY THINGS AT ONCE.

Also, there have been SOOOO MANY TIMES when servers have only asked ONE person at the table instead of *ALL* people, so some people that did want something get left out not being able to ask for what they want.

Also, there have been SOOOOOOOOO MANY TIMES servers get one request and don't GIVE YOU A *CHANCE* to ask for MANY ITEMS before they run off or put their pen away.

Do *YOU* honestly **WRITE ALL REQUESTS DOWN***? I seriously doubt you do, that's why most customers don't ask for many things at once a lot of times, because when you don't have your pen and pad out, they will feel you will forget anyways, so why bother asking for 5-8 things at once?

You have NO RIGHT to be mad at customers if you do not ********WRITE EVERY REQUESTS THAT IS ASKED FOR DOWN*********, NO RIGHT AT ALL TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS!! Especially, if you don't write down orders, ESPECIALLY!!


READ THE MENU..... It is NOT our job to give you a full verbal run down of the entire menu because you are too lazy to read the menu in front of your face. We are happy to answer any questions you have about the menu items but don't expect us to "storybook" the menu for you.


I 100% agree with you on this one, but also that goes to the ***SERVERS** as well. You would not believe the amount of times I have known MORE about the *MENUS* that the servers were too lazy to READ the item I was talking about and make sure that is what they are bringing us such as not bringing out ranch that comes with cheese fries or that there is a price not correct on your check.


If you are going to "camp" at your table, you better TIP well. The longer you sit the less chance that server has to make money on that table again. Consider it rent.


100% DISAGREE!! If there was a rental fee, we'd be paying the *********RESTAURANT*********, NOT THE SERVER!! You don't own the tables, they do!!!

I agree to LEAVE instead of hog the tables, but tips are based on **********SERVICE***********, NOT HOW LONG YOU STAYED. If you haven't done anything for table 6 in an hour, WHY should you get more money, huh? That's UNFAIR to pay you to do absolutely NOTHING for that table, it really is. TIPS ARE FOR ***********SERVICE***************** ONLY!! WE DON'T RENT THE TABLES FROM THE SERVERS!!


If your entree is not cooked correctly, it's NOT your servers fault.


Actually sometimes it can be.

Your server can PUT in the order wrong into the computer or bring it out OBVIOUSLY wrong that they don't have to *TOUCH* the food to notice it was wrong. I know, I have had it done before where I noticed it 3 seconds they put the food in front of me WITHOUT TOUCHING A THING, me and my husband's OWN server, NOT another server even.



You can tell in this picture above the bacon is very crispy just by simply LOOKING at it.



You can tell in this picture above the bacon is NOT CRISPY, just by simple LOOKING at the bacon.

While the server didn't "COOK" the bacon, it's obvious to the *SERVER'S* EYES that one batch of bacon is crispy and the other isn't to decide to BRING the food to the customer wrong or not. It's my server's fault if they decide to bring me the bacon that's like in picture 2 if I ordered it crispy that she or he didn't tell the cooks it was wrong and get them to cook the bacon more instead of SERVING it wrong. WHY bring it out only for the food to be sent back?



You can clearly see the fries are overdone in the picture above if the customer ordered them "NOT OVERDONE, lightly cooked."



In this picture above, you can see the fries don't appear overdone and the bacon is NOT CRISPY. If a customer asked for their bacon to be crispy, I would REFUSE to serve it and I would have enough CARING and COMMON SENSE to get that fixed **BEFORE** I brought it to the customer only to have the customer send it back or leave me a bad tip for not caring about their food.

My server's job isn't just to bring out what the kitchen staff gives them, it's also getting the order OBVIOUSLY correct to the table as much as possible in order to get that good tip. As someone said on a blog or forum “They just want to be tipped well and will do pretty much anything reasonable to get your money”, which that IS VERY REASONABLE to think OUR SERVERS ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THEIR TIP TO GET THINGS RIGHT TO HAVE A BETTER TIP!!

I agree with you on things you cannot know without touching the food that are wrong when you put in the order correctly.



Believe it or not, your server is the brains. They are required to know all the ingredients in all the menu items. They have to know what kind of liquor the bar stocks, what kind of beer and the ever changing wine by the glass menu. They have to know pretty much everything about the restaurant, sometimes even it's corporate history or where the meat and fish comes from and how it's prepared.


MOST DO NOT THOUGH. I have had times where I had to show things on the menu and PROVE I was correct even to a manager even. I have also had to spell Jose Cuervo before to a waitress and Tres Generaciones I had to spell before as well. I had to spell a speciality drink of the particular restaurant I frequent, which the waitress said it was her 2nd day or so, but still, the INTERNET is where you can learn ALL ON YOUR OWN TIME BEFORE you even decide to get the job. I didn't spend ANY amount of time working as a server there, but I knew MORE than her even.

How come a lot of servers don't pay attention to details when they bring out your drinks? I have had wrong drinks brought out before that I knew immediately it was wrong. I have had no salt on the rim or sugar on the rim of a glass that the *MENU* had it was supposed to come on it even or times when I even ordered a margarita with salt they didn't pay attention that they didn't have salt on the rim of the glass before bringing it to me.


They not only have to remember what is going on at your table but also what's going on at four other tables.


Actually, if they *WROTE* EVERYTHING DOWN, they don't have to **REMEMBER** anything expect where they WROTE the stuff they asked for. It's true. You don't have to remember. It's called going back to your piece of paper every single time you need to remember something, so you don't have to try to remember it.


If you think serving is easy........ DO IT!! I DARE YOU!!!


I NEVER said it was. It is a VERY, VERY, VERY HARD JOB!! I just feel most servers do NOT try their best. I have more times than not, servers that are LAZY.


Your lack of manners WILL come back to bite you in the ass.


I find most servers don't have manners. They don't say they are sorry when they mess up. I understand they feel they don't want us to take off the tip, but if we know who is at fault like if it's obvious, you are hurting your tip by not being NICE when a mistake happens to apologize for it.


Treat others as you would like to be treated if your positions were reversed.


That goes for SERVERS TOO!! I don't feel servers act like they are the customer a lot of the times.
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Tipping cost extra money so I don't tip and if I have to its a dollar.
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Here in my country... no one tips.
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