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Obama's Presidency
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It's simple really, the people who think the stimulus / obama is good are just ignorant children who think oh because he's hip he's going to tend to our needs let's vote for him! He's on Obey shirts! He's oprah's bff! The people to blame are us, the nation as a whole, you guys are claiming it was Bush's mistake when in reality you're doing what the Nazi's did, creating a scape goat to our problems. Fuck up ignorant pricks. Read a god damn book.
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Here is a good Article on Obamas address he recently made to congress actually criticizing his speech and offering solutions rather then fox attacking with no solutions at all using fear mongering.

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Posted 2/27/09

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Shamela24 wrote:

At least he's trying to fix Bush's mistakes, he trying to help America avoid another Depression.


What mistakes is fixing from Bush? Hell the only one I can see is a lighter tone in trying to compare Islam with terrorism everything else I really cant see too much of a difference. Fix the economy how? By spending trillions of dollars we dont even have? Thats like me trying to buy a Ferrari with my credit card taking out big loans and borrowing a bunch of money from other people that I know damn well I could never pay it back. The worst thing you can do in an economic crisis is further plunge yourself in debt and devalue your dollar even more.


He's putting some of that money towards getting health care benefits and helping middle class america. Yes, it bad to spend the money, but at the same time many people cannot afford the cost of prescriptions drugs, or doctor visits.
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No one can be perfect, and i'm not saying we should have someone that is perfect. I'm merely saying that he's dooming society in his first month of presidency by putting the money in the wrong places. The stimulus bill is just in general not a good idea, i really don't think it's ALL bush's fault, granted he didn't do that great of a job. It's also the bank's fault and society, we're really dumb and were spending money we never had and could never pay for. All in all, it's not off to a good start.


Thank you for informing me. I see your point. I agree that it was the spending habits that helped got us into mess.
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Posted 2/27/09

Shamela24 wrote:


drizza wrote:


Shamela24 wrote:

At least he's trying to fix Bush's mistakes, he trying to help America avoid another Depression.


What mistakes is fixing from Bush? Hell the only one I can see is a lighter tone in trying to compare Islam with terrorism everything else I really cant see too much of a difference. Fix the economy how? By spending trillions of dollars we dont even have? Thats like me trying to buy a Ferrari with my credit card taking out big loans and borrowing a bunch of money from other people that I know damn well I could never pay it back. The worst thing you can do in an economic crisis is further plunge yourself in debt and devalue your dollar even more.


He's putting some of that money towards getting health care benefits and helping middle class america. Yes, it bad to spend the money, but at the same time many people cannot afford the cost of prescriptions drugs, or doctor visits.


Thats a very costly healthcare system that will even plunge us even further into debt if the government takes over that. Why wont this man cut spending at all. Reverse our foriegn policy we cant keep affording this empire this is all borrowed and printed paper. As I said before as long as we keep these essences around all these bandages Obama keeps putting on the problem wont cure it but only prolong it.
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Nice to see even "liberal" media starting to speak a bit of truth....


Obama Declares War on Investors, Entrepreneurs, Businesses, And More

Friday, 27 Feb 2009 | 4:39 PM ET
Posted By: Larry Kudlow
Anchor


AP
President Barack Obama
Let me be very clear on the economics of President Obama’s State of the Union speech and his budget.

He is declaring war on investors, entrepreneurs, small businesses, large corporations, and private-equity and venture-capital funds.

That is the meaning of his anti-growth tax-hike proposals, which make absolutely no sense at all — either for this recession or from the standpoint of expanding our economy’s long-run potential to grow.

Raising the marginal tax rate on successful earners, capital, dividends, and all the private funds is a function of Obama’s left-wing social vision, and a repudiation of his economic-recovery statements. Ditto for his sweeping government-planning-and-spending program, which will wind up raising federal outlays as a share of GDP to at least 30 percent, if not more, over the next 10 years.

This is nearly double the government-spending low-point reached during the late 1990s by the Gingrich Congress and the Clinton administration. While not quite as high as spending levels in Western Europe, we regrettably will be gaining on this statist-planning approach.

Study after study over the past several decades has shown how countries that spend more produce less, while nations that tax less produce more. Obama is doing it wrong on both counts.

And as far as middle-class tax cuts are concerned, Obama’s cap-and-trade program will be a huge across-the-board tax increase on blue-collar workers, including unionized workers. Industrial production is plunging, but new carbon taxes will prevent production from ever recovering. While the country wants more fuel and power, cap-and-trade will deliver less.

The tax hikes will generate lower growth and fewer revenues. Yes, the economy will recover. But Obama’s rosy scenario of 4 percent recovery growth in the out years of his budget is not likely to occur. The combination of easy money from the Fed and below-potential economic growth is a prescription for stagflation. That’s one of the messages of the falling stock market.

Essentially, the Obama economic policies represent a major Democratic party relapse into Great Society social spending and taxing. It is a return to the LBJ/Nixon era, and a move away from the Reagan/Clinton period. House Republicans, fortunately, are 90 days sober, as they are putting up a valiant fight to stop the big-government onslaught and move the GOP back to first principles.

Noteworthy up here on Wall Street, a great many Obama supporters — especially hedge-fund types who voted for “change” — are becoming disillusioned with the performances of Obama and Treasury man Geithner.

There is a growing sense of buyer’s remorse.

Well then, do conservatives dare say: We told you so?


© 2009 CNBC, Inc. All Rights Reserved

http://www.cnbc.com/id/29434104
Posted 2/28/09 , edited 2/28/09
His plan for a green shift seems off since he always mentions so called "clean" coal technology, removing troops from Iraq will help the economy since there has been a trillion or more dollars thrown into that war thus far. Universal health care could be funded by the top 10% for awhile, and maybe when the recession ends (If it ever does) and once the middle or lower middle class get back on their feet then the government could tax them all to keep money flowing in the program. I think that if every American paid a small health care tax I am sure that the collected money would suffice to keep things running in that area. And the banks need to be dealt with in a way that does not destroy the economy while fixing their inherit errors that even some of the founding fathers warned of.

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

Thomas Jefferson

As for his stances on issues such as pro life and diplomacy I cannot really find fault in those.
I understand that I am Canadian but I am giving my thoughts on this issue because American politics and it complexities have provided much entertainment to me I enjoy it much more than the often mediocre politics in my country.
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There's this movie called the Obama Deception......
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spensaur wrote:

It's simple really, the people who think the stimulus / obama is good are just ignorant children who think oh because he's hip he's going to tend to our needs let's vote for him! He's on Obey shirts! He's oprah's bff! The people to blame are us, the nation as a whole, you guys are claiming it was Bush's mistake when in reality you're doing what the Nazi's did, creating a scape goat to our problems. Fuck up ignorant pricks. Read a god damn book.


The war was a "mistake" (if you want to call it that) by Bush. The current economic crisis is mostly the fault of banks and bad loaners.
I think YOU should read a book. Secondly, Obama's plan for economic revival is unorthodox in traditional standards, but it appears he's aiming to provide greater benefits to the general public in general by sacrificing growth. How will it turn out? Who knows, but hopefully it works.
Posted 6/9/09
it doesn't matter i guarantee he will be killed before the year is over.
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CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

it doesn't matter i guarantee he will be killed before the year is over.


By who?
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makix wrote:


spensaur wrote:

It's simple really, the people who think the stimulus / obama is good are just ignorant children who think oh because he's hip he's going to tend to our needs let's vote for him! He's on Obey shirts! He's oprah's bff! The people to blame are us, the nation as a whole, you guys are claiming it was Bush's mistake when in reality you're doing what the Nazi's did, creating a scape goat to our problems. Fuck up ignorant pricks. Read a god damn book.


The war was a "mistake" (if you want to call it that) by Bush. The current economic crisis is mostly the fault of banks and bad loaners.
I think YOU should read a book. Secondly, Obama's plan for economic revival is unorthodox in traditional standards, but it appears he's aiming to provide greater benefits to the general public in general by sacrificing growth. How will it turn out? Who knows, but hopefully it works.


You should watch the Obama Deception.

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrpRocaEfQE&feature=PlayList&p=9657816B36974DC0&index=0)
Posted 6/9/09

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CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

it doesn't matter i guarantee he will be killed before the year is over.


By who?


Some nut ball that keeps hearing how bad he is doing, that he is throwing away our children and grand children future for over spending, that he says Muslims are not evil, for closing gitmo down and transferring dilettantes here to our prison, expanding government over car companies and the banks etc. All it takes is some nut ball to hear that over and over and then finally go out and do it, I hope that it doesn't happen but you can't control people
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CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


Yei wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

it doesn't matter i guarantee he will be killed before the year is over.


By who?


Some nut ball that keeps hearing how bad he is doing, that he is throwing away our children and grand children future for over spending, that he says Muslims are not evil, for closing gitmo down and transferring dilettantes here to our prison, expanding government over car companies and the banks etc. All it takes is some nut ball to hear that over and over and then finally go out and do it, I hope that it doesn't happen but you can't control people


Oh, I thought you meant some white supremacist. Btw, you should watch the Obama Deception too, cause it seems you've been believing his lies

And don't worry, the people that put him there won't let anything happen to them, he's too powerful of a puppet.
Posted 6/9/09

Yei wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


Yei wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:

it doesn't matter i guarantee he will be killed before the year is over.


By who?


Some nut ball that keeps hearing how bad he is doing, that he is throwing away our children and grand children future for over spending, that he says Muslims are not evil, for closing gitmo down and transferring dilettantes here to our prison, expanding government over car companies and the banks etc. All it takes is some nut ball to hear that over and over and then finally go out and do it, I hope that it doesn't happen but you can't control people


Oh, I thought you meant some white supremacist. Btw, you should watch the Obama Deception too, cause it seems you've been believing his lies

And don't worry, the people that put him there won't let anything happen to them, he's too powerful of a puppet.


his lies oh wait i like him as person but don't agree with somethings that he is doing but i felt the same way about bush i am an independent after all
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