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Losing the next generation?
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Posted 3/2/09
http://www40.statcan.gc.ca/l01/cst01/legal17a-eng.htm

Not looking so good for youth in this one...criminal offence stats from 2007

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HokiePokie wrote:

The first two links were really, really stupid.

Oh lord, your child is being forced to think about life. :O! He's learning that religion is mainly bull shit! EVEN WORSE! My child should not be thinking! He should be mindlessly following math equations, those bastards!

OH NO! A child did drugs? A child committed suicide? For fucks sake man, this generation is 100x better than the last, 500x better than the one before that. People are now thinking on a whole different level, the vast majority of us have better morals. Children were abused even MORE back then than they do now, people now can be properly educated to being a proper parent. This bull shit that every generation gets worse is annoying. Here things get better, but now it's the new "cool" to think it's worse. There are extremely bad cases where children are involved in horrible situations, but the generations are still improving a HELL of a lot.


You kind of took the "douchebag approach" in this post, but I agree with almost all of your points made. Newer generations are much better off than previous ones, check the IQ tests.
Posted 3/4/09 , edited 3/4/09

darkmagiciangirl911 wrote:

http://www40.statcan.gc.ca/l01/cst01/legal17a-eng.htm

Not looking so good for youth in this one...criminal offence stats from 2007



technically you still are the 'youth' since that's usually under 18, and from what your info says you are 17. Apparently this is the youth section from the same site, hasn't changed all that much. Well, has pretty much stayed the same really.
http://www40.statcan.gc.ca/l01/cst01/legal14a-eng.htm

This one has actually gone down, though barely:
http://www40.statcan.gc.ca/l01/cst01/legal14b-eng.htm


as for your main links, what were they on about anyway? First link was some parent complaining about her own beliefs, and basically not wanting the school to teach anything other than maths and language - which is her own opinion, and I wouldn't be surprised if other mothers actually DID read the sheet sent home, it's just she was the minor few to complain.

The second is talking about issues a lot of people agree with. I should point out though they're greatly influenced by what youths are capable of getting a hold of nowadays, or increasingly capable.

"-One in ten knife attacks in Victoria are carried out by children under 16."
As opposed to what statistic for the previous generation?

"-Children as young as seven are unhappy with the shape of their bodies, with some at risk of developing eating disorders."
Fault of media

"-There are 1.1 million children who live with only one of their natural parents."
How is this a bad thing?

"-Half of all teen pregnancies end in abortion."
Yet it's still viewed as bad by society if they keep the child.

"-More than 2000 children a day log on to the Internet each day to find legal advice on when they can leave home, when they can have sex, and which parent they can live with after divorce."
access to the internet is a fairly new thing

"-Pens that look like blood-filled syringes are on sale again, even though they were previously removed from shelves."
Not the fault of the younger gen
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Posted 3/7/09

cerisey wrote:


darkmagiciangirl911 wrote:

http://www40.statcan.gc.ca/l01/cst01/legal17a-eng.htm

Not looking so good for youth in this one...criminal offence stats from 2007



technically you still are the 'youth' since that's usually under 18, and from what your info says you are 17. Apparently this is the youth section from the same site, hasn't changed all that much. Well, has pretty much stayed the same really.
http://www40.statcan.gc.ca/l01/cst01/legal14a-eng.htm

This one has actually gone down, though barely:
http://www40.statcan.gc.ca/l01/cst01/legal14b-eng.htm


as for your main links, what were they on about anyway? First link was some parent complaining about her own beliefs, and basically not wanting the school to teach anything other than maths and language - which is her own opinion, and I wouldn't be surprised if other mothers actually DID read the sheet sent home, it's just she was the minor few to complain.

The second is talking about issues a lot of people agree with. I should point out though they're greatly influenced by what youths are capable of getting a hold of nowadays, or increasingly capable.

"-One in ten knife attacks in Victoria are carried out by children under 16."
As opposed to what statistic for the previous generation?

"-Children as young as seven are unhappy with the shape of their bodies, with some at risk of developing eating disorders."
Fault of media

"-There are 1.1 million children who live with only one of their natural parents."
How is this a bad thing?

"-Half of all teen pregnancies end in abortion."
Yet it's still viewed as bad by society if they keep the child.

"-More than 2000 children a day log on to the Internet each day to find legal advice on when they can leave home, when they can have sex, and which parent they can live with after divorce."
access to the internet is a fairly new thing

"-Pens that look like blood-filled syringes are on sale again, even though they were previously removed from shelves."
Not the fault of the younger gen


How does my age make my point of view invalid? If anything it should making it even more valid. I don't like my own generation. If find that this generation is rude and indecent. In general, we take things we don't need and try people like sh*t. Most people disregard their responsibilities and send their free time drinking, doing drugs, and partying. Apparently, that's perfectly fine. We don't have to try even close to as hard as prior generations and very few have decent work ethics.
Technological advances doesn't mean that the generation is better, it either keeps us the same or makes us worse. Acceptance of things like homosexuality and different races is great but the general morals like common decency see to be on the decline. Fault of the media isn't really an excuse, people have minds of their own, they choose to believe the images they see. McLuhan warned about the effects of TV and the younger generations denounced him and his theories were only recognize after his death.
I do sadly hate my own generation and probably always will.
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I do not agree with the gender perspective theory (the first link is about it). it's total bullshit.

So, when I was a lil girl, I was meant to be a boy because I prefer to play videogames and read science books? That's bullshit!!!!!!!
Biologically, I was born a girl, and I stayed like that, and I like it.
Posted 3/7/09 , edited 3/8/09

darkmagiciangirl911 wrote:


cerisey wrote:


darkmagiciangirl911 wrote:

http://www40.statcan.gc.ca/l01/cst01/legal17a-eng.htm

Not looking so good for youth in this one...criminal offence stats from 2007



technically you still are the 'youth' since that's usually under 18, and from what your info says you are 17. Apparently this is the youth section from the same site, hasn't changed all that much. Well, has pretty much stayed the same really.
http://www40.statcan.gc.ca/l01/cst01/legal14a-eng.htm

This one has actually gone down, though barely:
http://www40.statcan.gc.ca/l01/cst01/legal14b-eng.htm


as for your main links, what were they on about anyway? First link was some parent complaining about her own beliefs, and basically not wanting the school to teach anything other than maths and language - which is her own opinion, and I wouldn't be surprised if other mothers actually DID read the sheet sent home, it's just she was the minor few to complain.

The second is talking about issues a lot of people agree with. I should point out though they're greatly influenced by what youths are capable of getting a hold of nowadays, or increasingly capable.

"-One in ten knife attacks in Victoria are carried out by children under 16."
As opposed to what statistic for the previous generation?

"-Children as young as seven are unhappy with the shape of their bodies, with some at risk of developing eating disorders."
Fault of media

"-There are 1.1 million children who live with only one of their natural parents."
How is this a bad thing?

"-Half of all teen pregnancies end in abortion."
Yet it's still viewed as bad by society if they keep the child.

"-More than 2000 children a day log on to the Internet each day to find legal advice on when they can leave home, when they can have sex, and which parent they can live with after divorce."
access to the internet is a fairly new thing

"-Pens that look like blood-filled syringes are on sale again, even though they were previously removed from shelves."
Not the fault of the younger gen


How does my age make my point of view invalid? If anything it should making it even more valid. I don't like my own generation. If find that this generation is rude and indecent. In general, we take things we don't need and try people like sh*t. Most people disregard their responsibilities and send their free time drinking, doing drugs, and partying. Apparently, that's perfectly fine. We don't have to try even close to as hard as prior generations and very few have decent work ethics.
Technological advances doesn't mean that the generation is better, it either keeps us the same or makes us worse. Acceptance of things like homosexuality and different races is great but the general morals like common decency see to be on the decline. Fault of the media isn't really an excuse, people have minds of their own, they choose to believe the images they see. McLuhan warned about the effects of TV and the younger generations denounced him and his theories were only recognize after his death.
I do sadly hate my own generation and probably always will.


It means you haven't seen any other generation.
What statistics are you basing this on? And when people "disregard their responsibilities and send their free time drinking, doing drugs, and partying" no, it isn't perfectly fine. Has anyone said that? Again, what are you basing this on?
I never said that makes the generation better, I said these things effect it. Whether it's negatively or positively a lot of these 'bad things' are easier to come by, to learn about. So thank you for agreeing.
general morals? like what? You are basing this on nothing. I've yet to see any statistics based on morals of the youth and I doubt that can be proven. You think the nazi's were moral? The people who tricked the youth of WW1 into going to war by claiming they'll be 'hero's' are moral? They may be extreme examples, but they were in a different generation. Declining morals does not exist, they've always been easily thrown away.
You think a seven year old has the maturity to decide whether they should live up to the expectations of the media or not? Adults easily fall into that trap as well, it's almost like brain washing. When you're surrounded by images of 'beauty' and 'perfection' so often it can quite easily get stuck in your brain. People with think "oh, they are so beautiful." Other's too, expectations for beauty rise and people become self conscious wanting to improve their beauty. If it's not the media's fault, it's the fault of the parents - the previous generation - for not teaching their child to love themself properly.
What has this got to do with it? Are you contradicting yourself by saying that yes, tv/media DOES have a bad effect?

Edit: all we have as 'evidence' for the generations becoming worse, are people's unproven claims about how "Back in my day, youngens respected their elders!" and all that. Growing exposure to the the world through media, internet etc. (such as facts about sex, drugs, alcohol, or anything else) have changed the generations, I agree on that. But it's mixture of bad and good, like with almost anything. I feel it's just taking some time to adjust since it was so sudden.

But if the next generation really is that bad, then who do we blame? They're still children so I say the older generation for not setting a better example, or teaching properly. This was an "if" statement though, so I still disagree that the generations are becoming worse.
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