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Here we go agian. lol

I agree the police must get to the source. They should still atleast fine and require the cooperation of the people that are caught using pot. I honestly don't really care about people using pot, but I still disagree with it and I don't think it should be legal for the sake of the country. Like I said before though my goal in life isnt to stop pot dealers. Though pot can affect children and I would like the youth of America to remain innocent and not have to come into contact with drugs. I know what your going to say "What about alcohol?". Well that is the exception not because I like it but because it is less addictive and I can see a major difference in how fast a pot head can process information compared to a alcoholic. Also most people that smoke pot, smoke pot more often than a heavy drinker drinks his drink. I know people say pot isnt addictive and that is bull because it is. I know this because a lot of buddies are addicted to it. It may not give you a physical addiction, but it gives you a mental one(You become addicted to the fun as my friends would say). So I am sticking to my first statement.
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My own anecdotal experience doesn't match yours. Most pot smokers that I know, do it much less often than they drink.

mind you i don't know a lot of pot smokers. At least I don't THINK I know many. the one guy I know who is really damaged by drugs had a cocaine habit triggered by wanting to appear functional at his office job after playing in private all night poker competitions. He's a lot better these days after We (his friends ) pulled him to the curb and made him SEE how it was fucking up his head. (His identity is tied to his mind since he's not a jock and actually has co ordination issues)

I'd actually like to see some study results on the addictiveness and short and long term impairments last I heard Alcohol and nicotine were still the most addictive substances known to man, And whenever I swear off Coca Cola or energy drinks I go through the very clear symptoms of chemical withdrawl from caffiene. If being addictive is the criteria for criminality. The FDA and the Canadian Equivalent have some work to do.

Fines and other consequences of 'offences on summary conviction' are fine with me. I just don't think Pot should be a Crime.

Mind you I don't toke myself. I've never understood the appeal of most of the recreational drugs I've experimented with. they just make me feel... insensate, stupid and other things I don't want to be. When I was younger and trying harder to get female attention I used to need a little 'dutch courage' to get on the dance floor and display the unconcern about rejection necessary to be in play. but it was too easy to titrate the dosage incorrently and just become a blithering drunk. Now I drink for epicuran joy in drinks that I can't afford to guzzle.

I think you'll find the same spectrum of behaviours and values among pot users as among alcohol imbibers. You're college age.. I remember most of my college age fellow drinkers. I doubt they remember much though. why wouldn't pot be the same. Many of your cohort haven't learned the perils of EXCESS, that's why they can't drink in most states.



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I have said this before just legalize all illegal drug if stupid people want to die let them. We could regulate them sell them to people dose mean it legal you should do them. Place a small tax to treat the one who want of them. And billion saved on the idiotic war on drug. Prohibition did not work and the war on drugs has failed. If we cannot stop an illiterate Mexican from crossing the border how do you thing we can stop well equipped drug runners. Plus are prison and jails would not be over flowing with addicts, and that cost plenty of money.
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Its just that I can't see how adding pot into the equation will make things any better. I fear for the future of mankind. Honestly if I had to ban alcohol to ensure that pot would not be legalized then I would do that. I do enjoy having a cold beer every once in a while on a hot day with some buddies. There are also the idiots the like to have twenty on a hot day with their buddies. My point is, is that I don't think America needs to have pot in the picture right now. I might be able to consider it for a short period of time though just to get our government some money(maybe like a year or two). I know now I am contradicting myself, but when it comes down to it, pot can not be legal for more than that short period of time to get our government out of debt. I am only saying that is alright because the U.S. government is digging itself a financial grave. Like I said I would throw away the right to drink to ensure pot does'nt become legal, but I would'nt mind it being legal for a short period of time to get the U.S. government some money.
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Well I use to think the same way. Then I think of my childhood where I saw people smoking weed and doing heroine(Grew up in the 90s). A child should'nt have to see those things. You may say, but what about drinking a child shouldnt have to see that either. Honestly most I know can control theirselves drinking, but there will always be the bad egg. Like I said before in my other posts I would sacrifice alcohol to ensure pot doesnt become legal, but I also suggested that pot may benefit the U.S. government if it were legal for a short period of time. What I am trying to say is that it is like a plan D for the U.S. Really though can you see my point about children? I want the childhoods of every child to be pure and innocent. Its a rediculous dream, but I am always striving to achieve the impossible.
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Well I use to think the same way. Then I think of my childhood where I saw people smoking weed and doing heroine(Grew up in the 90s). A child should'nt have to see those things. You may say, but what about drinking a child shouldnt have to see that either. Honestly most I know can control theirselves drinking, but there will always be the bad egg. Like I said before in my other posts I would sacrifice alcohol to ensure pot doesnt become legal, but I also suggested that pot may benefit the U.S. government if it were legal for a short period of time. What I am trying to say is that it is like a plan D for the U.S. Really though can you see my point about children? I want the childhoods of every child to be pure and innocent. Its a rediculous dream, but I am always striving to achieve the impossible.


You do know that pot put in food has shown to improve a child's grades in school, with no bad side affects. So what Is your problem with Marijuana being used in food? (its good for you.) and unlike Sugar and Caffeine its not addicting nor does it have the harmful side affects you get from those two drugs. So I state again, how can you blindly denounce marijuana wen all the facts Key word (FACTS) Point to it being better for you than Sugar.

Lets not forget all the benefits medically it has wen smoked by ill individuals with cancer or other Diseases/Conditions.

Your opinion is superstitious brain washing with no backing sorry its just how it is. (ps.. Marijuana has also been proven to be less of a gate way drug than Cigarettes. So you should really re-evaluate your ideals and how you come to have them.)

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Well I use to think the same way. Then I think of my childhood where I saw people smoking weed and doing heroine(Grew up in the 90s). A child should'nt have to see those things. You may say, but what about drinking a child shouldnt have to see that either. Honestly most I know can control theirselves drinking, but there will always be the bad egg. Like I said before in my other posts I would sacrifice alcohol to ensure pot doesnt become legal, but I also suggested that pot may benefit the U.S. government if it were legal for a short period of time. What I am trying to say is that it is like a plan D for the U.S. Really though can you see my point about children? I want the childhoods of every child to be pure and innocent. Its a rediculous dream, but I am always striving to achieve the impossible.


you could have it both ways. keep it legal, make it ... in canada we call them "Offences on Summary Conviction" these are legal infractions that are not 'CRIMES', they are NOT part of the criminal code. Mostly it's for violations of the Highway traffic act but it can also cover failing to keep ice off your little frontage of public sidewalk.

So pot would NOT be LEGAL. BUT people wouldn't go to jail for it. Cops could pursue bigger fish, and the government could reap all kinds of benefit in the form of fines.

I'm sorry but I don't think the US will ever get out of debt. You DO know how the federal reserve works right?



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I still disagree because I am totally against pot. Like I said if it comes down to it I would ban alcohol as well. I enjoy drinking every once in a while, but some people abuse drinking just like some will abuse pot. I don't care what anybody says pot kills brain cells and it does have long term negetive effects. If it does cure cancer give it to people that have cancer, but most doctors agree that it does very little for your health and most would agree that it produces more negetive effects then positive. I have asked many doctors thr question about if marijana is healthy or not? They always say that "Oh I did experiment in college with it, but I could never say that inhalling a foriegn substance is good for you". I know you also talked about eating it. Like I said before I can see the difference between a person that uses marijana and does'nt use marijana base on the way and speed they process information.
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I can always hope that one day my country will make it. I do believe the U.S. is on the same path as Rome, but I really hope the U.S. proves me wrong.
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I can always hope that one day my country will make it. I do believe the U.S. is on the same path as Rome, but I really hope the U.S. proves me wrong.


The whole world is on the same path as Rome. Us, China everyone. it's not a case of 'light at the end of the tunnel', it's not case of knowing that light is A train. It's standing in a multi-track switching circle and making bets on which train will hit first.

Live by your code, enjoy the fiddle music, and pray the horse learns to sing.



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Fallout 3. lol
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Fallout 3. lol


'You opinion is based on what?
Again you base your opinion on nonsense..
The evidence does not support you or your Ideals.
As I pointed out no more than 20 or so min ago.


As for fallout 3.. I have it, and I can dream the day it comes to pass.. Being at this time I love for governments around the world to die.


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Fallout 3. lol


No, that and earth being a cinder was the singular doomsday I grew up convinced was going to happen as a cold warrior.

The list is long...
(1) Peak Oil - oil becomes too scarce/expensive and the machine for turning oil into garbage that is our world economy sputters out and stops. the poorer your nation was to begin with, the less you'll notice the problem. Most westerners are @#$@#'ed

(2) The debt bomb. The giant ponzi scheme that is most countries monetary system (like the US federal reserve) finally collapses as we run out of people at the bottom of the pyramid who want to buy t-bills or other similar instruments of government debt. That will take most of the west and maybe drag china down.

(3) Bugs are evolving faster than we can make the magic potions that we discovered in the 30's starting with sulfa compounds. Eventually we'll get a new black death combined with commuter air travel.

(4) Forget peak oil, we're burning resources at rates that are NOT sustainable. We're going to run out of Tungsten for car headlights, platinum for plasma tvs, already it's profitable to mine old garbage sites.

(5) Peak phosphorus. We go back to 'organic' farming world wide, crop yeilds no longer run at 400%, Malthus, whose calls we've been ignoring, kicks down our door and demands a hundred years of interest.

(6) Green house Gas/Climate change. warm up enough and we'll release all the Methyl Hydrate locked into the permafrost and deep sea. Resulting in a Flourine based atmosphere that rains hydroflouric acid. (The green sky will be pretty cool looking. I figure that might hit when I'm sixty something)

(7) Resource wars go Nuclear.

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on a lower order of probability
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A mass extinction grade asteroid hits. maybe one of the near earth ones stops missing us by 'that much'

A some interstellar event we don't even have a name for kills off the entire solar system.

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of course the world COULD end for me tonight on my way to work, some hummer driving asshole talking on his/her cell phone could score a bingo on me when I step off the sidewalk.

In the meantime, Party on.


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It was suppose to be funny, but I am no expert a comedy.
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I laughed but.. then I got going on one my rants. I do that sometimes. We were talking about the fall of rome before... This is more like if the dinosaurs were at fault for their extinction event.
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