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Hi! You can call me TK for short and I've been reading and getting the manga since day one. I've also seen the animes but the manga is my #1 source for it all. I did this thread on my old manga source for the Japanese chapters but that's gone so I read them now at http://www.mangavolume.com , I also keep an ear to the translators Auqastar, and also own the mangas at home that are out.

So if I may I wish to restart from when the next chapter comes out to discuss the latest Japanese chapters here! I can also answer manga questions as best as I can or can find out about. Please chime in and I look forward to this! I'll start next time once chapter 198 comes out which continues the Magic World Arc. Take care!

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Oh not bad, I see chapter 198 in now! OK a quick recap for everyone before I go into it:

-Negi decided post Mahora festival to work towards becoming the Ultimate Magi but also can't shake off finding his dad Nagi. So he decides then to head to the Magic World with the new White Wing Team: Kotarou, Chachamaru (Evangeline stays behind of course since the Principal can't pull that stamping deal again lol), Nodoka, Konoka, Setsuna, Yue, Haruna, Asuna, Chisame (after much debate lol), Kaede, Ku Fei, Kazumi, and Sayo in her new Plushy form (VOODOO PLUSHIES!) They are guided by Ms. Donnet, a mage friend of Prof. Akashi, Yuna's dad.

-Once there trouble finds them of course in the form of the return of FATE! He's back...and with a new gang (not 100% sure yet who they are though one kendo gal seems familiar if you recall...) After pretty much a lopsided battle and Fate destroying the gateway between the 2 worlds (and doing so for other Gates apparently, why is still unknown), he then makes things interesting with a special teleportation dispersal spell.

-So we get Negi having to locate everyone now! He found so far Chisame, Chachamaru, Kotarou, and incognito Sayo and Kazumi. But we get more problems since some of the students who are unknowing of Negi's secrets are there too! Oh and Fate framed Negi for the Gate's situation too (wow twice Negi is framed, Chao being the other one doing it of sorts). Just about the whole class is there scattered except seemingly Mana (who is with Takamichi going to try to help them, meets Donnet there in the Magic World on arrival), Evangeline, Zazie (we STILL don't know yet her story lol), Satsuki( at the school), Misora (at the church training on last look), Satori (labwork, was prepping Chachamaru for this trip), the cheerleaders (apparently in the Real World still and didn't follow the Sports gals through the Portal for the moment), Ayaka, the twins and Chizuru (back at Nekane's estate still in the village).

-So in a nutshell some are trying to cope in a fantastical world as if in a dream, while Negi and Koratou (using the Age Pills to look their older teenage selves, as does Chachamaru and Chisame but as kids to stay hidden) now have to make the money for 3 of them (Ako, Natsumi who knows it's them and is showing some feelings for Kotarou finally, and Akira) working as slaves due to needing medicine for Ako's odd ailment (perhaps a link to the scar on her back too?) while trying to find help. They have located an unused portal bridge and can get there as they earn money in, what else, a fighting tournament! Oh and to gather more help among other things, Negi just so happens to use his dad's name as his current name! Time's a ticking on the plan to gather everyone now and Kill...err...I mean...stop Fate!

OK hope that covers the logistics needed. Feel free to contact me or reply here on anything at the current junction, past arcs or anything else manga related! I hope you enjoy the recaps and join in the discussion as you wish! BTW I use various sources too for help on what's happening like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negima . Onwards!

Chapter 198

-Kotarou reminds Negi on how idiocy makes Asuna and Nagi so similar. lol Negi is still soul searching knowing he's still far below Fate's skills and needs to get powerful fast (oh I had such an Avatar: The Last Airbender thought there for a moment. ). He mumbles the other thing he lacks that Kotarou noted half-heartedly was a finishing strike (And now that's my Street Fighter/fighting games moment) when a stranger asks him about it...saying he'll teach it...for a really high cost (darn Magic Land rising costs!). From that another stranger strikes as the first one warns him of this killing strike. Interesting...

-Now to chibi Chisame doing her rational thinking as always and the risks of Negi using Nagi's name while she shops for supplies. With this the place rumbles as we get Negi and the stranger again fighting on the rooftops chopping up stuff as the stranger uses a shadow technique very much like Takane Goodman's as Negi notes but FAR better in skill level. The stranger is answering him as Nagi of course. He says he's Kage Tarou of Bosporos challenging him to a duel as he now shows hsi masked shadow form. The first stranger with the headband tells him to not worry about the villagers used to this happening and watching. This Kage is out to kill though! HUGE fight that includes more use of Negi's new clone technique (now a Naruto moment lol got to love tips of the hat to other shows) but Kage is called a AA level by the first stranger and he tallies up that Negi will need more help at a cost, which Chisame picks up hearing nearby. But Negi near the ned GLOWS of energy (Dragonball Super Saiyan time!....j/k), gets in for a kill shot but...

-We cut to Ako plucking a flower to figure if Nagi loves her (since she hasn't picked up yet on how this is happening) when Akira and Natsumi come in and says Nagi is down! Man down!

Well that's my first try at this here so I hope you like it! Take care, happy holidays to all and a happy New Year!
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mangavolume huh. Onemanga releases Negima chapters faster(only by a few hrs) since I visit both websites but w/e I use both but Ithis series is great so far.. I wonder what will happen to Negi now. He definately needs 2 get stronger. If he cant even beat that guy he was facing then how would he stand a chance against that white haired kid.
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Lol i noe all of these alredi..i go to www.onemanga.com im waitin 4 chpter 199
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What do you think will happen? If Negi is really that hurt, they might need to sell themselves as slaves again to get another healing potion. Or it might be the chance for Konoka to appear ^^

EDIT: Does anybody know where is that ermine (chamo or kamo, I don't remember it's name) that was always with negi? I don't remember seeing him when the group entered in the magic world
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blopa wrote:

What do you think will happen? If Negi is really that hurt, they might need to sell themselves as slaves again to get another healing potion. Or it might be the chance for Konoka to appear ^^

EDIT: Does anybody know where is that ermine (chamo or kamo, I don't remember it's name) that was always with negi? I don't remember seeing him when the group entered in the magic world


Hell yea~!! Konoka needs more screen time...

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Thanks first off deli for the other site! I'll eye them both then for manga scans. :)

The White Haired kid is Fate for those who might have forgotten. We last saw him getting chased off by Evangeline when she took out the huge demon summoned using Konoka's powers but the rebel mages. I'm sure the rest of the team will be back soon but I like how all sorts of scene time is given to different characters in the manga, a great appeal of the seires. Chamo is the ermine and good question; I imagine he got separated too as he was with them at the Gate before the separation but we shall see. And yes I know many of you read the chapter beforehand but I recap AND comment on it as we go along. Looking forward for more talk from you all! Ta!
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If I were Fate, the first thing I would try to do is prevent Nodoka from meeting up with Negi, since her artifact would be the key to understand my plans (she could even ask me "How can Negi defeat me?" and then I would be screwed). Also taking in mind the chapters in betwen the past arc and this one, it seems that this arc will give Yuuna a chance to shine.
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Cool thinking blopa! We shall see with now Negi's plan in play who comes to the Tournament finals to see him to see if Fate DID in fact do anything else to the others still missing (right now it's Asuna, Nodoka, Konoka, Yue, Haruna, Setsuna, Konoka, Fei Ku, Kaede, Anya and Chamo-rechecked my info blopa and yep, Chamo a.k.a. full name Albert Chamomile, is also there scattered). I'm glad others see how freaking powerful Nodoka's ability is too.

Yep good call on that too since Yuuna is Prof. Akashi's kid, and showed already to have some form of dormant powers during the Festival (no "Kid" as she nicknamed herself is THAT good on first try of a gun as noted even if she's athletic-I almost could see her being Pactio #8).

Just one more note to show this thread is also open to general manga discussion aside from the latest chapter.

Lots is still mysterious about the manga and I got my theories I like to present like the rest of you too...some as I chill today reading manga and such. Note these are just THEORIES and not turth for now, but it's part of the fun to guess!

-Ako's scar: I again mentioned how we have no clue how it came to be so I still got a sneaking suspicion it's magical related and possibly more linked to her current illness or at the very least made her the lone gal susceptible more openly to her flu.

-Negi's Mom/Nagi's Wife: OK this is the reason I felt to speak of this since a point hit me hard as I was just brushing up on manga info. Check this out under Asuna's Bio on Wiki at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asuna_Kagurazaka]

"It should also be noted that as of Chapter 169 Asuna's true age has come into question. Albireo, in one of Asuna's dreams, says that, like himself, her age can not be determined by her appearance alone. Also Asuna is shown to have taken part in a battle that, although yet to be dated or named as such, appears to have happened during the Magical wars, which took place 20 years ago. Given this new information, some have estimated her real age to be probably 27-32 years, close to the same age as Nagi would be."

OK the thing that hit me is I knew she, like Mana for example, is undetermined for age. We know we have this play on her being one of Negi's love interests (still I so pro-Nodoka. ) But see that point on her more likely being Nagi's age...so consider this...

What is Asuna while with Nagi...well...IS Negi's mom?! OK don't freak on me it's all just a possible theory and I am likely off but just throwing it out there since we still have no clue on Negi's mom, Asuna's parents and lineage, and would be almost ironic since they do say she's like Nekase being a motherly figure at times to Negi.

-Zazie: OK she's starting to be like Rogue from X-men for me in the early days: we have NO clue who she is! Any theories welcome but we seem to know she's only spoken 7 times in the WHOLE MANGA, and she commands demons/ghosts/spirits with the potential (if you see in Volume 1's first class photo) of being a demon too. And that's it! I know Akamatsu is going to cover her sometime as he's covered everyone else in the class but wow, that's some patience to come to her.

-Sayo's past: Sadly as noted in chapter notes in Volume 9 it seems like Sayo won't delve into why she is how she is. The various anime/manga theories seem to be sketchy at best. If we do find out I do hope it's good. I think the earlier plans of her being murdered might be true, and Konoka's grampa the Dean Konoe knowing her in the past might also true but it seems like this is one of the few plot mysteries Akamatsu is abandoning for now.

-The Love Hina/Negima link: OK this one is loose at best but I do love the hints each time. Biggest one of course is Mei Sakura from the Festival Tourney (Kotarou's opponent and some suspect is Naru's half-sister from near the end of the manga) and Setsuna's past (if you look at when she's brought to first meet Konoka's family there's some resemblance to Motoko's family perhaps...and of coruse the same fighting kendo styles too in Shinmei-ryu). Who knows if ever a more solid fact will come, but it would be nice just at least to show both stories are in the same world. :)

BTW on an aside, from my earlier Manga recap I found the name for Setsuna's rival who looks to be back with Fate from the Kyoto arc: Tsukiyomi. Also Nitta the stern teacher is sometimes thought of being the same teacher from another Akamatsu series: A.I. Love You.

-Chao: Oh I do hope she comes back someday in the manga (As you see like in my avatar she's a fav of mine). That whole family connection is intriguing and she was the big part of one of the best arcs, the Festival Arc. And who knows, we may yet get to know more about her sometime. I think there's a good possibility of this happening. Prehaps the current arc plays a role in how her world ends up, which caused her to go to the past in the first place.

PHEW! OK that's enough for now. Always fun to look back to look forward for a long ongoing manga you like. Stay frosty and enjoy the holidays!
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The Asuna being Negi's mom really stroke me hard, I never tought about that posibility. As a matter of fact I was also concerned about who is her mom and why Negi doensn't even care about that detail. But in my case I though Negi's mom would be Nekane (she says she's negi's sister, but I wonder is that is true). As an added note, Nekane got her legs destroyed when a demon casted a petrifying spell (mmmm same as fate's....) during the village attack, but somehow she seems to be walking perfectly later on. Is healing magic powerful enough to make lost body parts "grow" again?

About Zazie.. well... she really is a mistery. Either she is Akamatsu's special character to bring upon a large plot twist, or he forgot completely about her, XD. Negi was supposed to se her circus performance at the final day of the festival, but because of Chao's schemes he couldn't timetravel anymore after the battle, making it the only appointment he didn't fulfill (at least I don't remember him having missed any appointment other than that one). Taking in mind thah Zazie can see ghosts and even commands demon-like cratures, I strongly believe that Sayo's story and Rainyday's "debut" in the manga will happen at the same time.

By the way, I would advice to be careful about reading manga/anime threads on wikipedia. The info in there is mixed with personal oppinions that are not always accurate.

EDIT: Cheked the first group picture and Zazie's scary red eyes and sharp fingers resembling Lust of FullMetal Alchemist
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NP and thanks for the advice blopa on Wiki; I'm careful too with it and use it more for checking what I've read already of course. Nekane was said indirectly to have prosthetic legs for now in magic form in a way like how they pieced together the villagers who are stone. So in a way I doubt she can feel with her current feet.

Good points on Zazie BTW! I too can't seem to find if Negi made the circus. Not like she'd be upset about it. I like your Sayo/Zazie theory as they did meet prior to the Magic World trip too.

OK have a good New Year's and I will return then with more on the next time that Chapter 199 is up! Ta!
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Thanks doro and here's the latest on Chapter 199 and some comments as usual so enjoy!

-I ALMOST spit my lollipop I'm having right now out with page one! NAGI got his arm clean cut off! Yeah Ako fainted hearing it (her blood fears again) as Akira, chibi Chisame and Natsumi look on as he's put into surgery. Kotarou and chibi Chachamaru soon join them in the waiting room. Tosaka, one of the fighting tourney's organizers, also is there to argue with Kotarou over silly stuff. :)

-Time passes (2 days) and Nagi (to Ako) is being tended to by Ako and awakes all patched up (yes arm back on too). Usual Akamatsu ackward moment of course, with Natsumi finding fainted Nagi on Ako. Then some time alone for the 2 as his bandages are changed. We also see Negi/Nagi growing now as a fighter as he says the fear of battle is gone even in a death battle (kind of neat so worth the read alone for it). Some chit chat too (wow with even something thoughtful from Makie said to Ako brought up! lol OK Makie's cool too but we don't get to hear much from her of late.) unravels. More of course too for the Ako/Nagi shippers to take in.

-Later on we see grown up Negi thinking and even getting an imaginary subconscious shout from Asuna (wow it really has been a while without a lot of the main students!) for thinking this is only his battle. He now sees too to believe in everyone and that they will not only reunite, but fight Fate and this bad situation together. For now his current goal of course is to win the tourney in 1 month's time.

-How close is he to being more powerful? We flashback to the battle on the roof with Kage. Negi did in fact get a blow in but that was when his right arm was cut off. THEN he still comes at him with just his left arm still firing off magic! WOW! Battle was to continue until the other stranger stops them both and says he's taking over. We finally get confirmation that this guy Kage recognized from Ala Rubra...a.k.a.The Crimsom Wing!!!!! And the plot thickens for next time!

P.S. Checked Aquastar who translates the Negima chapters and the big chapter 200 should be on its way too so hang in there, enjoy 199 and take care!
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what is in Negima neo? is it different from the original manga...?? O.o
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Hmm for the moment I'm going to forgo Neo as yes, it's like the animes as it has a different spin on the main plot. Do feel welcome to discuss it too hansuke and welcome!

No new chapter yet but once it's out I'll cover it of course!
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