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The Incentive of Fansub Community's Collective Mentality
Posted 3/5/09 , edited 3/5/09
Through the system of inductive logic(http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logic-inductive/), I propose that the collective mentality of the fansub community is incited by misplaced fear(http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fear%5B2%5D). And it is with that perverse incentive(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive#References) that propels them to this mentality:
They're afraid of unpleasant situations. They're afraid of commitments. They're afraid of progresses. And they're afraid of truth.

However, their misplaced fear is what's negatively keeping them from happiness. And happiness is a positive incentive(http://ezinearticles.com/?Why-and-How-to-Be-Happy-Now---Happiness-Incentives-and-5-Tips-For-Being-Happy&id=1687231) that will instate tolerance during unpleasant situations, loyalty during commitments, optimism during times of change, and courage during moments of truth.

This is completely different than the informative, but long and boring lecture on economic(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Huz4pw7_8H8&feature=related) that voice actor Greg Ayres had been hosting for several years regarding fansubs. And since the fansub community is by nature, a collective of amateur hobbyists, they cannot understand the deductive logic(http://www.philosophyclass.com/logic.htm) of professional business. This is because their perverse incentive fear of truth is preventing them from having the courage to face the facts of reality. Furthermore, the economic angle only allows the fansub community to use economic recession as an excuse for their behaviors. But the fact is they're only reacting with yet another misplaced fear of recession due to mass medias(http://economics.about.com/cs/businesscycles/a/depressions.htm).

So unless they're ready to conquer their misplaced fears(http://zenhabits.net/2008/11/five-helpful-attitudes-for-dealing-with-your-fears/), the fansub community will not change. And everything that Greg Ayres had said during his panels will remain a real possibility, if not the reality(http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20090304f1.html).
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DomFortress wrote:

Through the system of inductive logic(http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logic-inductive/), I propose that the collective mentality of the fansub community is incited by misplaced fear(http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fear%5B2%5D). And it is with that perverse incentive(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive#References) that propels them to this mentality:
They're afraid of unpleasant situations. They're afraid of commitments. They're afraid of progresses. And they're afraid of truth.

However, their misplaced fear is what's negatively keeping them from happiness. And happiness is a positive incentive(http://ezinearticles.com/?Why-and-How-to-Be-Happy-Now---Happiness-Incentives-and-5-Tips-For-Being-Happy&id=1687231) that will instate tolerance during unpleasant situations, loyalty during commitments, optimism during times of change, and courage during moments of truth.

This is completely different than the informative, but long and boring lecture on economic(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Huz4pw7_8H8&feature=related) that voice actor Greg Ayres had been hosting for several years regarding fansubs. And since the fansub community is by nature, a collective of amateur hobbyists, they cannot understand the deductive logic(http://www.philosophyclass.com/logic.htm) of professional business. This is because their perverse incentive fear of truth is preventing them from having the courage to face the facts of reality. Furthermore, the economic angle only allows the fansub community to use economic recession as an excuse for their behaviors. But the fact is they're only reacting with yet another misplaced fear of recession due to mass medias(http://economics.about.com/cs/businesscycles/a/depressions.htm).

So unless they're ready to conquer their misplaced fears(http://zenhabits.net/2008/11/five-helpful-attitudes-for-dealing-with-your-fears/), the fansub community will not change. And everything that Greg Ayres had said during his panels will remain a real possibility, if not the reality(http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20090304f1.html).


i can't believe i just read all of that.... but ur wrong. Fansubs are there so people can watch new anime closer to the time it comes out. It isn't about misplaced fear. Also, for kids, fansubs are the only way to get anime, and it nurtures our affinity for it. I have come to the conclusion that you have no idea what the heck ur talking about. There is no collective mentality. Members of fansub groups are free to join them and leave them whenever they want. O yea and those professionals you talk about suck horse****. I can't get myself to watch dubs because voice actors in america are so horrible. People make subs because its a way for them to appreciate anime more. If they like it, they want to return the experience to other viewers. Also, it isn't about business you smartass....... you are spouting nonsense entirely unrelated to fansubs. THey do it just because we want them to, and by we, i mean the majority of the people who watch anime.... get ready for a bashing, and not only from me. Don't try to act smart, you fail:P bad
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fansubbers fansub because...they are bored and its something for them to do.
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Hello, Dom.
Hi~~!
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SamTyler wrote:

Hello, Dom.
Hi~~!

You sure are overjoyed there, Dom.
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Peace? Yeah right...

You've been provoking people since the beginning. Isn't this one of the first steps toward Wars? >_>


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DomFortress wrote:

Through the system of inductive logic(http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logic-inductive/), I propose that the collective mentality of the fansub community is incited by misplaced fear(http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fear%5B2%5D). And it is with that perverse incentive(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive#References) that propels them to this mentality:
They're afraid of unpleasant situations. They're afraid of commitments. They're afraid of progresses. And they're afraid of truth.

However, their misplaced fear is what's negatively keeping them from happiness. And happiness is a positive incentive(http://ezinearticles.com/?Why-and-How-to-Be-Happy-Now---Happiness-Incentives-and-5-Tips-For-Being-Happy&id=1687231) that will instate tolerance during unpleasant situations, loyalty during commitments, optimism during times of change, and courage during moments of truth.

This is completely different than the informative, but long and boring lecture on economic(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Huz4pw7_8H8&feature=related) that voice actor Greg Ayres had been hosting for several years regarding fansubs. And since the fansub community is by nature, a collective of amateur hobbyists, they cannot understand the deductive logic(http://www.philosophyclass.com/logic.htm) of professional business. This is because their perverse incentive fear of truth is preventing them from having the courage to face the facts of reality. Furthermore, the economic angle only allows the fansub community to use economic recession as an excuse for their behaviors. But the fact is they're only reacting with yet another misplaced fear of recession due to mass medias(http://economics.about.com/cs/businesscycles/a/depressions.htm).

So unless they're ready to conquer their misplaced fears(http://zenhabits.net/2008/11/five-helpful-attitudes-for-dealing-with-your-fears/), the fansub community will not change. And everything that Greg Ayres had said during his panels will remain a real possibility, if not the reality(http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20090304f1.html).


I haven't been counting but what number thread is this that you've made about the same god damn thing over and over again?... and besides the only one who's afraid of any kind of truth is you being afraid of the fact that none of your over nine thousand threads and one million posts will change anyone's mind about anything. I've known about all that anti-pirating stuff and how we're raping corporate up the ass by illegal sharing their stuff and what not. although did you know that importing from japan and removing anime from it's intended market region is also illegal? yep, those shitty dubbs are the only way to watch anime legally, and who would watch that shit given another option? even if that wasn't enough why would fansub viewers purposely be in confrontation with the law and multiple nation's governments if it had anything to do with fear? the real reason is we are just immoral bastards who want more bang for their buck(I am aware that I have said this about myself and it's more like more bang for no bucks right?) just deal with it. then there's the whole thing about your references, you may as well have gotten your philosophical backing from a hobo wearing an aluminum hat or one of those ultimate guides to life and success in it you would see in an infomercial... seriously.

oh... and I already know my post isn't going to do any good either, but I just did it anyway for the lulz.
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DomFortress wrote:



I haven't been counting but what number thread is this that you've made about the same god damn thing over and over again?... and besides the only one who's afraid of any kind of truth is you being afraid of the fact that none of your over nine thousand threads and one million posts will change anyone's mind about anything. I've known about all that anti-pirating stuff and how we're raping corporate up the ass by illegal sharing their stuff and what not. although did you know that importing from japan and removing anime from it's intended market region is also illegal? yep, those shitty dubbs are the only way to watch anime legally, and who would watch that shit given another option? even if that wasn't enough why would fansub viewers purposely be in confrontation with the law and multiple nation's governments if it had anything to do with fear? the real reason is we are just immoral bastards who want more bang for their buck(I am aware that I have said this about myself and it's more like more bang for no bucks right?) just deal with it. then there's the whole thing about your references, you may as well have gotten your philosophical backing from a hobo wearing an aluminum hat or one of those ultimate guides to life and success in it you would see in an infomercial... seriously.

oh... and I already know my post isn't going to do any good either, but I just did it anyway for the lulz.


Nicely said!

So, in conclusion

Duplicate Thread
Posted 3/5/09 , edited 3/5/09

gnomeonfire wrote:

fansubbers fansub because...they are bored and its something for them to do.
Then why would they do it like this?

Just look at all those attention grabbing special effects. Aren't they just afraid of boredom because it's unpleasant to them, so they're doing this for all the attentions they could get?

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Nicely said!

So, in conclusion

Duplicate Thread
No. I'm not even saying anything remotely the same as what Greg Ayres had already said in his panels.
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holy_may wrote:


DeathDragon550 wrote:


DomFortress wrote:



I haven't been counting but what number thread is this that you've made about the same god damn thing over and over again?... and besides the only one who's afraid of any kind of truth is you being afraid of the fact that none of your over nine thousand threads and one million posts will change anyone's mind about anything. I've known about all that anti-pirating stuff and how we're raping corporate up the ass by illegal sharing their stuff and what not. although did you know that importing from japan and removing anime from it's intended market region is also illegal? yep, those shitty dubbs are the only way to watch anime legally, and who would watch that shit given another option? even if that wasn't enough why would fansub viewers purposely be in confrontation with the law and multiple nation's governments if it had anything to do with fear? the real reason is we are just immoral bastards who want more bang for their buck(I am aware that I have said this about myself and it's more like more bang for no bucks right?) just deal with it. then there's the whole thing about your references, you may as well have gotten your philosophical backing from a hobo wearing an aluminum hat or one of those ultimate guides to life and success in it you would see in an infomercial... seriously.

oh... and I already know my post isn't going to do any good either, but I just did it anyway for the lulz.


Nicely said!

So, in conclusion

Duplicate Thread


You come into every thread and say that, duplicating everything u say...you're duplicate >.>


DomFortress wrote:


gnomeonfire wrote:

fansubbers fansub because...they are bored and its something for them to do.
Then why would they do it like this?

Just look at all those attention grabbing special effects. Aren't they just afraid of boredom because it's unpleasant to them, so they're doing this for all the attentions they could get?

holy_may wrote:
Nicely said!

So, in conclusion

Duplicate Thread
No. I'm not even saying anything remotely the same as what Greg Ayres had already said in his panels.


Who said bored people cant be dicks.
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SamTyler wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


SamTyler wrote:

Hello, Dom.
Hi~~!

You sure are overjoyed there, Dom.
Well thanks to my positive incentive of happiness, you betcha! Positive mentality is all you need to be happy, but you gotta have the right incentive to be happy of.

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Since you like to defend licensing so much.

I bet you that if you go up to the anime companies and told them your ideas they wouldn't care.

They would probably give you free merchandises, which in return makes you more of a whore than us -_-
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gnomeonfire wrote:


You come into every thread and say that, duplicating everything u say...you're duplicate >.>




Wrong, I don't. Proof : go check the few recent ones


I'll say it if it's necessary. It's at least a straightforward answer.
Also, it's better than posting spam pictures -_-
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you're flaming someone who can flame back, brilliant
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