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Exactly how is people believing in "fairy tales" having a negative effect on anyone?





Lets see....

1. Holy war..
2. not using devises for safe sex. (because thats evil in the eyes of there GOD.)
3. Letting people die because its agenst there religion to Save someone using some types of Medication or Cures.
4. the Burning of people in the name of there God for not believing in him.
5. The brain washing of children at young ages.
6. Voting for undereducated Incompadent presidents and people in the office just because of there religion.


Exactly, Anyone who believes in god or any religion is a disgrace to human beings. There is no god, jesus did not have holy powers, anyone who needs to rely on a higher power to get tho the day need to leave me alone
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^^...Someone Is In A Bad Mood.

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^^...Someone Is In A Bad Mood.

Hasn't This Thread Been Locked Yet.


'You are spamming in this thread. Please stop braking the rules and get on topic ok you spamming troll. Yes I called you a troll for your trying to pick a fight with me.
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If a human being is stupid enough to believe in god in the first place their not worthy of the intelligence they have, those people are a disgrace to human intelligence, personally I think we should be a science race that focuses on bettering technolodgy and going to other planets and stars


What's so wrong about being stupid? We need stupid people to unskilled tasks that people who have dedicated much of their lives to their education wouldn't want to do. What's the point of making everyone highly intelligent if most people are going to be stuck doing jobs that don't require much intelligence?

Stupidity is subjective, anyone could be considered stupid because everyone has their own idea of what average intelligence is or should be. I'm assuming you consider yourself to be an intelligent person, but in your ideal world of super-smart people, you could be considered "stupid" because you don't live up to the standards of intelligence that have been established, so you'd be wiped out with the rest of us. The standard of intelligence would be raised higher and higher, until eventually only a very small group of people are left, which could lead to the end of our species.


but no instead were killing eachother over some magical man who lives in a floating castle in the sky, it's retarded, human intelligence is a awesome thing, and yet their wasting it on religions and believing in god. its pathetic.


Yes it is retarded, but the point I was trying to make is that not everyone who follows a religion is killing other people because of their religion. Religion isn't what we should be angry at, it's the handful of crazy people that use their religion to justify their retarded actions that deserve the blame.



And your wrong, guns don't kill people, and people with guns dont kill people, the projectile fired from the gun kills people.


A projectile itself has no intent to kill, if left alone it will simply stay inside the gun. If the gun is left alone it will not hurt anyone. It takes a human's mind and body to pick up the gun, aim it, pull the trigger, and kill someone. The gun and bullet are simply tools of the human's will that are being used to commit a horrible act, just like religion, and that same tool can even be used to save lives and bring a little more peace to the world (like using a gun to tranquilize a vicious animal, or shooting a bank robber in the leg to keep him from escaping).


Posted 3/7/09

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


NaruHina2210 wrote:

^^...Someone Is In A Bad Mood.

Hasn't This Thread Been Locked Yet.


'You are spamming in this thread. Please stop braking the rules and get on topic ok you spamming troll. Yes I called you a troll for your trying to pick a fight with me.


How Im I Spamming,
& Why The Hell Would Im Want To Pick A Fight With An Old Man.
You Just Being Ignorant And Trying To Force,
Your Opinions On Religion On To Other People.
Well That's What This Whole Thread Is About,
You Trying To Prove That God Doesn't Exist.




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Allhailodin wrote:
If a human being is stupid enough to believe in god in the first place their not worthy of the intelligence they have, those people are a disgrace to human intelligence, personally I think we should be a science race that focuses on bettering technolodgy and going to other planets and stars


What's so wrong about being stupid? We need stupid people to unskilled tasks that people who have dedicated much of their lives to their education wouldn't want to do. What's the point of making everyone highly intelligent if most people are going to be stuck doing jobs that don't require much intelligence?

Stupidity is subjective, anyone could be considered stupid because everyone has their own idea of what average intelligence is or should be. I'm assuming you consider yourself to be an intelligent person, but in your ideal world of super-smart people, you could be considered "stupid" because you don't live up to the standards of intelligence that have been established, so you'd be wiped out with the rest of us. The standard of intelligence would be raised higher and higher, until eventually only a very small group of people are left, which could lead to the end of our species.


but no instead were killing eachother over some magical man who lives in a floating castle in the sky, it's retarded, human intelligence is a awesome thing, and yet their wasting it on religions and believing in god. its pathetic.


Yes it is retarded, but the point I was trying to make is that not everyone who follows a religion is killing other people because of their religion. Religion isn't what we should be angry at, it's the handful of crazy people that use their religion to justify their retarded actions that deserve the blame.



And your wrong, guns don't kill people, and people with guns dont kill people, the projectile fired from the gun kills people.


A projectile itself has no intent to kill, if left alone it will simply stay inside the gun. If the gun is left alone it will not hurt anyone. It takes a human's mind and body to pick up the gun, aim it, pull the trigger, and kill someone. The gun and bullet are simply tools of the human's will that are being used to commit a horrible act, just like religion, and that same tool can even be used to save lives and bring a little more peace to the world (like using a gun to tranquilize a vicious animal, or shooting a bank robber in the leg to keep him from escaping).





Stupidity is subjective, anyone could be considered stupid because everyone has their own idea of what average intelligence is or should be. I'm assuming you consider yourself to be an intelligent person, but in your ideal world of super-smart people, you could be considered "stupid" because you don't live up to the standards of intelligence that have been established, so you'd be wiped out with the rest of us. The standard of intelligence would be raised higher and higher, until eventually only a very small group of people are left, which could lead to the end of our species.


Well I mean get rid of the people who do stuff like stand under a heavy giant metal tank and cut the legs out, or the people who cut into a tank of something explosive with an acetylene torch, people of average intelligence are fine.


Yes it is retarded, but the point I was trying to make is that not everyone who follows a religion is killing other people because of their religion. Religion isn't what we should be angry at, it's the handful of crazy people that use their religion to justify their retarded actions that deserve the blame.


Sure, I can agree with that, but also religious morals, who needs stuff like morals, if you believe something is right or wrong fine, keep it to yourself, but don't try to stop other people from doing something you think is wrong, no progress will get made that way.


A projectile itself has no intent to kill, if left alone it will simply stay inside the gun. If the gun is left alone it will not hurt anyone. It takes a human's mind and body to pick up the gun, aim it, pull the trigger, and kill someone. The gun and bullet are simply tools of the human's will that are being used to commit a horrible act, just like religion, and that same tool can even be used to save lives and bring a little more peace to the world (like using a gun to tranquilize a vicious animal, or shooting a bank robber in the leg to keep him from escaping).


Even so, we can both agree that it is in fact the projectile that does the actual bodily damage that leads to that persons death.
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Sure, I can agree with that, but also religious morals, who needs stuff like morals, if you believe something is right or wrong fine, keep it to yourself, but don't try to stop other people from doing something you think is wrong, no progress will get made that way.


So if someone goes around killing, stealing, and raping anyone and everyone, we shouldn't force our "morals" on them by stopping and punishing them, and just let them do what they want because they feel like what they're doing is right?



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Cuddlebuns wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:

Sure, I can agree with that, but also religious morals, who needs stuff like morals, if you believe something is right or wrong fine, keep it to yourself, but don't try to stop other people from doing something you think is wrong, no progress will get made that way.


So if someone goes around killing, stealing, and raping anyone and everyone, we shouldn't force our "morals" on them by stopping and punishing them, and just let them do what they want because they feel like what they're doing is right?





Personally I don't see an issue with killing and raping or stealing, as I believe no one action is any worse or better than another action, and all actions can and will be done sooner or later. Like I said i have no morals, I don't believe in right or wrong, or good and evil, or any of that crap, But that's just me apparently.
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Posted 3/7/09 , edited 3/7/09

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


Cuddlebuns wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

"I have one for you then..."
"Don't fix the leaky pipe and end up paying more for it and the damage it caused!"


Exactly how is people believing in "fairy tales" having a negative effect on anyone?





Lets see....

1. Holy war..
2. not using devises for safe sex. (because thats evil in the eyes of there GOD.)
3. Letting people die because its agenst there religion to Save someone using some types of Medication or Cures.
4. the Burning of people in the name of there God for not believing in him.
5. The brain washing of children at young ages.
6. Voting for undereducated Incompadent presidents and people in the office just because of there religion.



First of all, all that depends on the religion and beliefs of every individual person. Second, simply believing in God doesn't cause any of that.

Finally, people are the real problem, not religion. If there was no religion, you think people would stop acting crazy? I have many Muslim, Christian and Jewish friends, they are all wonderful and peaceful people and would never do any of that.



Allhailodin wrote:

If a human being is stupid enough to believe in god in the first place their not worthy of the intelligence they have, those people are a disgrace to human intelligence, personally I think we should be a science race that focuses on bettering technolodgy and going to other planets and stars, but no instead were killing eachother over some magical man who lives in a floating castle in the sky, it's retarded, human intelligence is a awesome thing, and yet their wasting it on religions and believing in god. its pathetic.

And your wrong, guns don't kill people, and people with guns dont kill people, the projectile fired from the gun kills people.


I believe in God and I think you're the closed-minded, ignorant one.
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Allhailodin wrote:

Personally I don't see an issue with killing and raping or stealing, as I believe no one action is any worse or better than another action, and all actions can and will be done sooner or later. Like I said i have no morals, I don't believe in right or wrong, or good and evil, or any of that crap, But that's just me apparently.


So why do you dislike religious people and stupid people so much? Being religious and being religious are both morally just to you, right? Being intelligent and being stupid are morally the same to you, right? So what makes you feel like stupid people are a "waste of time and space" and that they don't deserve to live? What makes you think someone forcing their morals on someone else is "wrong?"

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You know, I find athiests to be more closed-minded, ignorant, arrogant, stubborn, etc. than religious people.

They hate other people for imposing (or just having) their beliefs and for being so stubborn, and yet they end up doing the same thing. Except even worse, cause they should know better.
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You know, I find athiests to be more closed-minded, ignorant, arrogant, stubborn, etc. than religious people.

They hate other people for imposing (or just having) their beliefs and for being so stubborn, and yet they end up doing the same thing. Except even worse, cause they should know better.


Those are anti-theists that you're describing. If we were all like that then I, an atheist, wouldn't have been trying to defend religion throughout this entire thread and in several other threads. Making generalizations like that is just as ignorant as anti-theists making generalizations about all religious people, and vice versa.
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Posted 3/7/09 , edited 3/7/09

Cuddlebuns wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:

Personally I don't see an issue with killing and raping or stealing, as I believe no one action is any worse or better than another action, and all actions can and will be done sooner or later. Like I said i have no morals, I don't believe in right or wrong, or good and evil, or any of that crap, But that's just me apparently.


So why do you dislike religious people and stupid people so much? Being religious and being religious are both morally just to you, right? Being intelligent and being stupid are morally the same to you, right? So what makes you feel like stupid people are a "waste of time and space" and that they don't deserve to live? What makes you think someone forcing their morals on someone else is "wrong?"



I dislike religious people so much because their always trying to push their religion onto me, i find that annoying as hell, if a lot less people did that I would have no problems with religion, I have a problem with the religious people that go around trying to convert everyone they see, stupid people are always doing retarded things, that result in some new regulation or something, which is rather annoying, On the other hand stupid people are also good forms on entertainment, for example, i read a darwin award where some retard tried to steal a heavy metal tank from an army base, decided it would be wise to stand under the tank and cut the supports out, as a result the tank fell and crushed him to death, that's amusing and funny.

I don't find forcing morals onto people wrong, I find it annoying,
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Yei wrote:

You know, I find athiests to be more closed-minded, ignorant, arrogant, stubborn, etc. than religious people.

They hate other people for imposing (or just having) their beliefs and for being so stubborn, and yet they end up doing the same thing. Except even worse, cause they should know better.


I'm an athiest and i'm the most open minded person I know, I'm willing to try just about anything, like, eating dog or cat or squid, and I'm open to lots of other ideas and theories and lots of other new things i havent tried yet. And btw, every human being is ignorant is some way.
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