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I have decided, I WILL learn Japanese
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lol every one seems to use pim, my friend had it and we played the games and its all in japanese so it was like intense

But I learned more from school, and even more when I just read my japanese book on my own lol, I had to for my finals b/c I slacked off all year, I guess being forced to learn it made it less fun (''/)

And me and my friend would make up convos and stuff and practice speaking it, so my accent isn't horrible, I guess it helps that I act so I'm good with accents

But I'm shy to speak around japanese so I can understand how they would be shy to speak english as well

I don't want to learn nihongo for anime I just want to learn it b/c I love languages, and hate having restrictions on things

And i would def recommend learning Hiragana and Kata first and learning kanji as you go, like basics mom, dad, left right, colors, etc...

and learning short hand ways to say things helps too

oh and identifying kanji with pictures or things helps to remember them, and make sure to get the stroke order right my sensei always knew when ppl would cheat I'm an artist and he sometimes still knew...I could copy it perfect...
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I liked Nihonggo because it's a sound per syllable. I hate accents and stuff like that. With Nihonggo, it's literally write what you hear.
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I meant as in speaking accents not like writing in french accents? and why do you spell nihongo with two gs? there is no lil tsu in the spelling? It's Literally Ni hon go
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I have studied Nihonggo last year. It's when I stayed in Japan for 3 months. They have free Nihonggo lessons there. I can say, Kanji is difficult. The only Kanji word I can write is 'ji'. But learning how to speak nihonggo is easy as 1,2,3. I can read if the words are written in Katakana and Hiragana but I can't understand it because I'm not fluent yet.
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Sorry, bout that. old habit, i just couldn't find the right words to describe it... phonetic?
Yeah, i meant speaking. Accents just don't work for me, like in Mandarin or French.
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lilprince wrote:

I meant as in speaking accents not like writing in french accents? and why do you spell nihongo with two gs? there is no lil tsu in the spelling? It's Literally Ni hon go


Yeah, Nihongo is spelt with one "g", but since Greenbane is from the Philippines, you can't blame him. In the Filipino language, "nihongo" would be read as "ni-ho-ngo" and not "ni-hon-go". The reason is because the Filipino language has a special letter, "ng" that sounds like a nasal insertion, like "ng" in "bang"

For this reason, most Filipinos mistakedly write Nihongo as "nihonggo" out of habit, so that the pronunciation becomes "ni-hong-go". Notice that the "ng" sound is still there, because even in Japanese, a slight nasal "ng" is heard because of the special consonant "n" in Japanese. In instances where this consonant follows a glottical consonant (k or g), the "n" receives a glottical pitch, making a psudo "ng" sound.

Haha, sorry for the lengthy, uncalled for explanation. I studied the phonetic systems of different languages.
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^ I enjoyed it
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edsamac wrote:


lilprince wrote:

I meant as in speaking accents not like writing in french accents? and why do you spell nihongo with two gs? there is no lil tsu in the spelling? It's Literally Ni hon go


Yeah, Nihongo is spelt with one "g", but since Greenbane is from the Philippines, you can't blame him. In the Filipino language, "nihongo" would be read as "ni-ho-ngo" and not "ni-hon-go". The reason is because the Filipino language has a special letter, "ng" that sounds like a nasal insertion, like "ng" in "bang"

For this reason, most Filipinos mistakedly write Nihongo as "nihonggo" out of habit, so that the pronounciation becomes "ni-hong-go". Notice that the "ng" sound is still there, because even in Japanese, a slight nasal "ng" is heard because of the special consonant "n" in Japanese. In instances where this consonant follows a glottical consonant (k or g), the "n" receives a glottical pitch, making a psudo "ng" sound.

Haha, sorry for the lengthy, uncalled for explanation. I studied the phonetic systems of different languages. :P


Whoa! So the right spelling would be, N-I-H-O-N-G-O .. I see.. Sheesh. You'll be a good teacher.. Hehe..
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Yeah, thanks for saving my back. But i really thought before that it had a chisai-tsu... Oh well, Nihongo then... what does Nihon mean anyway?
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Posted 5/12/07

greenislove wrote:


edsamac wrote:


lilprince wrote:

I meant as in speaking accents not like writing in french accents? and why do you spell nihongo with two gs? there is no lil tsu in the spelling? It's Literally Ni hon go


Yeah, Nihongo is spelt with one "g", but since Greenbane is from the Philippines, you can't blame him. In the Filipino language, "nihongo" would be read as "ni-ho-ngo" and not "ni-hon-go". The reason is because the Filipino language has a special letter, "ng" that sounds like a nasal insertion, like "ng" in "bang"

For this reason, most Filipinos mistakedly write Nihongo as "nihonggo" out of habit, so that the pronounciation becomes "ni-hong-go". Notice that the "ng" sound is still there, because even in Japanese, a slight nasal "ng" is heard because of the special consonant "n" in Japanese. In instances where this consonant follows a glottical consonant (k or g), the "n" receives a glottical pitch, making a psudo "ng" sound.

Haha, sorry for the lengthy, uncalled for explanation. I studied the phonetic systems of different languages. :P


Whoa! So the right spelling would be, N-I-H-O-N-G-O .. I see.. Sheesh. You'll be a good teacher.. Hehe..


I think it's cuz i'm obsessed with the language...

Yup, the spelling is Ni-Ho-N-Go, to be precise, so that's 4 letters in Japanese, 3 letters in Kanji.

にほんご or 日本語
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DCJoeDog wrote:

Ok, the reason I want to learn, other than just knowing for the sake of knowing, is that I want to watch anime in raw form, and know more or less everything that is being said.

I just know I have it in me to learn it, just have to apply myself is all.



to tell u the truth u wont be able to understand anime by learning from that cd stuff cause they all teach formal speaking, best way to learn informal is to get a japanese pen pal or friend to teach u the less formal words cause anime uses non formal words, thats just if u want to learn it for the sake of anime.

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Posted 5/12/07
nihon is Japan

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oh and you mean four characters in hiragana, three in japanese, characters not letters (^_^)

it would be 7 letters lol...but to break it down phonetic as to pronounce it, it would be better to say Ni hon go spereating it like the kanji...erm I guess thats how it works for me anyhow...

and I agree that learning some slang would be better to understand anime thats why I suggested learning short hand ways of saying things would also make it easier to understand locals (not that they would talk to someone informally that they just met but ya...)
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yeah, i knew that. Please don't think so low of me. I just thought it meant something related to the rising sun or something, but dictionary is not helping.
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lilprince wrote:

nihon is Japan


kashikoi desu.
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Well, the first symbol, "ni" means "sun" or "Day"

I'm not sure about the second symbol... "hon"... book?
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