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I have decided, I WILL learn Japanese
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edsamac wrote:

I think it's cuz i'm obsessed with the language...

Yup, the spelling is Ni-Ho-N-Go, to be precise, so that's 4 letters in Japanese, 3 letters in Kanji.

にほんご or 日本語


I'm having a hard time reading words in Kanji form. But I can read the other one. That's Katakana, right?

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nihon means origin of the sun or the sun's origin.
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greenbane wrote:

yeah, i knew that. Please don't think so low of me. I just thought it meant something related to the rising sun or something, but dictionary is not helping.


well you werent really specific...? didn't think low of you lol, you said you just started learning I wouldn't have thought anything negative like that

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edsamac wrote:

I think it's cuz i'm obsessed with the language...

Yup, the spelling is Ni-Ho-N-Go, to be precise, so that's 4 letters in Japanese, 3 letters in Kanji.

にほんご or 日本語


I'm having a hard time reading words in Kanji form. But I can read the other one. That's Katakana, right?



nope, that's hiragana. Hiragana characters are "curvy" compared to their katakana counterparts. Plus, katakana is only used for imported words, or as an "italics" for hiragana characters.
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edsamac wrote:

Well, the first symbol, "ni" means "sun" or "Day"

I'm not sure about the second symbol... "hon"... book? :sweatingbullets:


Hon is book, I think. But there are words in Nihongo that have so many meanings so it's hard to recognize if it's not in a form of sentence.

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Oh, so my translation was close enough. Not that i said it, haha. Kanji really is interesting...
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yeah but its hard to memorize , I just wish theyd have picked two stlyes of writing and stuck with them...like english cursive and reg...but the bonus of learning kanji is being able to understand chinese writing too...sometimes
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hiragana is for kids u learn it at a young age at school then we learn kanji. Most japanese know ovr 3000 kanji symbols, hard for foreigners to learn only chinese might be able to get them all but we use traditional characters like taiwanese and guangdong people.
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yeah but its hard to memorize , I just wish theyd have picked two stlyes of writing and stuck with them...like english cursive and reg...but the bonus of learning kanji is being able to understand chinese writing too...sometimes


That's because we're used to "romanized" languages, meaning languages that utilize the roman-latin letters, or the standard 26 letter alphabet. Chinese and Japanese benefit from a "graphic" language, meaning a symbol represents a single object or direction.

In terms of recognition, the symbolic or graphic approach is much better. When you look at a tree, for example, you don't have to tell yourself that it's a tree... you know it's a tree because of experience. Same thing goes with chinese characters. They see symbols, but don't necessarily read them. This is why it's so fast for chinese to read!

In english, we have to see how each letter affects the next. "c" for example can be expressed as its direct "see" or glottical "kh-" sound depending on what comes next. "ca" makes "kha" and "car" makes a word. The eye has to move from one letter to the next before an actual image is produced.

This is what facinates me when I study the phonetic systems of each of the different languages. Japanese utilizes their own script to introduce articles to further heighten the grammatic structure of their sentences. It's very impressive, really. :)
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yeah but its hard to memorize , I just wish theyd have picked two stlyes of writing and stuck with them...like english cursive and reg...but the bonus of learning kanji is being able to understand chinese writing too...sometimes


Yeah. My sense, I mean teacher told me, some/most of their Kanji're like/from the chinese'.

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^^Oh no I just meant that I hate having to learn three different writing systems, like I wouldnt care if it was kanji, and hira, or hira and kata, or kata and kanji...

also the counters kills me, im like they really try and make life difficult...its a nice lang to know but learning it is a pain...I just want to skip the hard work and get the benifits I guess lol

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yeah I always said that it wasnt fair b/c the chinese kids in our class would be able to read some of the characters lol, and I got mad at my boyfriend when hed be reading them...all out of jealously of course

and the same thing happened in my italian class with the spanish natives...I had spanish too but not fluent so lain was jealous again lol
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ahaha, i don't mind kanji. It helps me differenciate lots of words after all. And it makes writing Japanese names a lot cooler.
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^^Oh no I just meant that I hate having to learn three different writing systems, like I wouldnt care if it was kanji, and hira, or hira and kata, or kata and kanji...

also the counters kills me, im like they really try and make life difficult...its a nice lang to know but learning it is a pain...I just want to skip the hard work and get the benifits I guess lol

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yeah I always said that it wasnt fair b/c the chinese kids in our class would be able to read some of the characters lol, and I got mad at my boyfriend when hed be reading them...all out of jealously of course


I agree, it's such a pain when it comes to learning it. You'd be excited to know how but in the end, you'd rather give up and envy the people know how to do that. I envy them. I hope I could do that too.

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^^ i think all of the chracters are cool personally not just kanji...I guess most ppl like the kanji b/c thats the first thing ppl usually know about if they are just getting started, so many times I'd be writing in japanese and ppl would think it was chinese, and americans love getting chinese tats

im getting my tat in hiragana i think its nice

^ exactly lol...wheres a which doctor in the woods when u need on (wild thornberrys anyone?)
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What?! giving up is not an option!!! Heh, tho' i'll admt 1945 joyo kanji is beyond my reach... but knowing at least 150 more to make it 50 would be helpful...
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