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Another proof!

The fact is, God never answers any prayers. The entire idea that "God answers prayers" is an illusion created by human imagination.

How do we know that "answered prayers" are illusions? We simply perform scientific experiments. We ask a group of believers to pray for something and then we watch what happens. What we find, whenever we test the efficacy of prayer scientifically, is that prayer has zero effect:

It does not matter who prays.
It does not matter if we pray to God, Allah, Vishnu, Zeus, Ra or any other human god.
It does not matter what we pray about.
If we perform scientific, double-blind tests on prayer, and if the prayers involve something concrete and measurable (for example, healing people with cancer), we know that there is zero effect from prayer. Every single "answered prayer" is nothing more than a coincidence. Both scientific experiments and your everyday observations of the world show this to be the case every single time.


You haven't tried to pray, have you?
"The proof of the pudding is in the eating",
If you are really want to know the truth about God, you should try to pray, it's so easy and just need your sincere heart..

Here's the the steps:

1-Be sure, that you are really seeking the truth.
2-Before the dawn...when the serene stillness covers the place...(Anytime would be fine but before the dawn is the best)
3-say the following with a sincere heart...

"
Praise be God, Who created the heavens and the earth, and made the darkness and the light.
O my Lord, you said that you respond to the invocations of the supplicant;

O my Lord, answer my prayers and show me the right path,

O my Lord, If you do not guide me, I would certainly be of the erring people.

O my Lord, who guides the people through the depths of darkness on land and sea;
Guide me to the Truth
"
repeat it many times.

4- let's see you, here, after that.
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Asking for proof from religions that pride in "faith" is contradictory; both for you and the people trying to scientifically (while failing miserably) prove that God exists.
Posted 3/14/09

Allhailodin wrote:


Gaia93 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:


Yei wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:

EXACTLY! }:O See thank you for that stupid Yei person being a hater!
Btw if your not tolerant of other religions or bliefts then Don't Post seriously.


I've never really been bothered by extremely religious people trying to convert me and I've never been bothered the slightest bit by anyone trying to impose their religious beliefs on me. All the religious people I've discussed things with are very respectful and understanding and intelligent...

But some of the atheists I come across.....

I don't even wanna bother.


Fine I'm sorry if i made you feel bad but you guys don't understand what i'm trying to say.
I'm not converting you and i don't want to I don't want to make you feel bad and stuff.

I'MS ORRY TO THOSE WHO THINK I'M PROBABLY AN AZZ AND STUFF BUT ALL I'M TRYING TO PROVE IS MY THEORY.


You know off topic here but i really dont care, ima point this out to you : if you make someone else feel bad thats 100% their problem, same thing if you offend someone, 100% their problem, your not the one who feels bad, they are.


But as for god creating the universe and that crap, it is impossible for god to have created the universe, as, if there was nothing before the universe, and since god is made of matter, that matter cannot have existed if there is no universe for it to exist in. simple as that, something cannot exist if there is no space for it to exist in. that says that god cannot have existed before the universe did, and if thats true, then god would be made of hydrogen as thats what was in the early universe, hydrogen and helium, so god must = hydrogen and helium as all other elements were born from hydrogen and helium, hydrogen is the mother of all life. so logically god must = hydrogen.


So explain the big bang, how did that come to be?

Are you trying to tell me that the universe evolved from nothing?


Well it could have come from the collapse on another universe. All the matter of the other universe collapsed into itself, then exploded as hydrogen and helium and created our universe. Or my theory that the universe is just a small bubble in a ocean of nothingness, and that bubble got created somehow. There are lots of ways it could have happened, but unless we find some way to look back in time, we will never truly know. But I do know that everything you see around you was created by thermonuclear fusion inside of a star made of hydrogen and helium. So I can say that hydrogen and helium is the ultimate creator of life. That is certain. But what I'm asking is how could god have existed before the universe did, god is made of matter, matter cannot exist if it does not have a place to exist in. Thus "god" cannot have existed before the universe did, and since the early universe was hydrogen and helium, the creator of everything, it's safe to assume that god = hydrogen + helium.


How could it come from the collapse of another universe?

I thought in the beggining there was nothing, and if there was nothing than how was there another universe?
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Posted 3/14/09 , edited 3/14/09

Gaia93 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


Gaia93 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:


Yei wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:

EXACTLY! }:O See thank you for that stupid Yei person being a hater!
Btw if your not tolerant of other religions or bliefts then Don't Post seriously.


I've never really been bothered by extremely religious people trying to convert me and I've never been bothered the slightest bit by anyone trying to impose their religious beliefs on me. All the religious people I've discussed things with are very respectful and understanding and intelligent...

But some of the atheists I come across.....

I don't even wanna bother.


Fine I'm sorry if i made you feel bad but you guys don't understand what i'm trying to say.
I'm not converting you and i don't want to I don't want to make you feel bad and stuff.

I'MS ORRY TO THOSE WHO THINK I'M PROBABLY AN AZZ AND STUFF BUT ALL I'M TRYING TO PROVE IS MY THEORY.


You know off topic here but i really dont care, ima point this out to you : if you make someone else feel bad thats 100% their problem, same thing if you offend someone, 100% their problem, your not the one who feels bad, they are.


But as for god creating the universe and that crap, it is impossible for god to have created the universe, as, if there was nothing before the universe, and since god is made of matter, that matter cannot have existed if there is no universe for it to exist in. simple as that, something cannot exist if there is no space for it to exist in. that says that god cannot have existed before the universe did, and if thats true, then god would be made of hydrogen as thats what was in the early universe, hydrogen and helium, so god must = hydrogen and helium as all other elements were born from hydrogen and helium, hydrogen is the mother of all life. so logically god must = hydrogen.


So explain the big bang, how did that come to be?

Are you trying to tell me that the universe evolved from nothing?


Well it could have come from the collapse on another universe. All the matter of the other universe collapsed into itself, then exploded as hydrogen and helium and created our universe. Or my theory that the universe is just a small bubble in a ocean of nothingness, and that bubble got created somehow. There are lots of ways it could have happened, but unless we find some way to look back in time, we will never truly know. But I do know that everything you see around you was created by thermonuclear fusion inside of a star made of hydrogen and helium. So I can say that hydrogen and helium is the ultimate creator of life. That is certain. But what I'm asking is how could god have existed before the universe did, god is made of matter, matter cannot exist if it does not have a place to exist in. Thus "god" cannot have existed before the universe did, and since the early universe was hydrogen and helium, the creator of everything, it's safe to assume that god = hydrogen + helium.


How could it come from the collapse of another universe?

I thought in the beggining there was nothing, and if there was nothing than how was there another universe?


There could be lots of other universes, if you think of our universe as a sphere, the inside of that sphere is our universe, have that sphere floating in an ocean of nothingness, there could be hundreds of other sphere's in that ocean each containing their own universe. Thats one possibility, the other possibility is before our universe there was a previous universe that collapsed into a tiny sphere the size of a eye in a needle, which exploded into our universe. hell there could have been hundreds of universes before ours that all collapsed in on them selves and re-exploded into new universes over and over.
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Posted 3/14/09

Yei wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:

Do you think god is real?
If so prove it.

To me I don't think he is and because i have proof.

If god was real then why did he let Jesus die? When he could have saved him with his powers?
Also if he was also real then what is he/ she or even it?


Wow that's amazing proof.

Yes I think God is real, because the belief in a higher power and benevolence are both innate in humans, and there has to be something that put that there. And that something is some sort of benevolent higher power. Also, I think it's crazy to believe we have no purpose or meaning to our lives considering the depth of human thinking (philosophy, religion, morality, etc).


That's your belief and cant dispute that. But that is not an entirely good argument. Our developed brains seek to know, gather knowledge and try to answer question to anything, including how we came to be. The idea of a God creating everything, is an idea resulting from lack of answers to a difficult question.
The concept of a God is not innate in all humans. Is there a study to prove that is indeed innate? Even if it did, Im certain the result of the research concludes that it is not innate in all humans. The belief in a God is passed down from generations to generations. A child being instilled with a belief of a God by his/her parents will surely grow up believing in what he brought up to believe. It will be hard to convince him/her otherwise.
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Posted 3/14/09 , edited 3/14/09

Allhailodin wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:


Yei wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:

EXACTLY! }:O See thank you for that stupid Yei person being a hater!
Btw if your not tolerant of other religions or bliefts then Don't Post seriously.


I've never really been bothered by extremely religious people trying to convert me and I've never been bothered the slightest bit by anyone trying to impose their religious beliefs on me. All the religious people I've discussed things with are very respectful and understanding and intelligent...

But some of the atheists I come across.....

I don't even wanna bother.


Fine I'm sorry if i made you feel bad but you guys don't understand what i'm trying to say.
I'm not converting you and i don't want to I don't want to make you feel bad and stuff.

I'MS ORRY TO THOSE WHO THINK I'M PROBABLY AN AZZ AND STUFF BUT ALL I'M TRYING TO PROVE IS MY THEORY.


You know off topic here but i really dont care, ima point this out to you : if you make someone else feel bad thats 100% their problem, same thing if you offend someone, 100% their problem, your not the one who feels bad, they are.


But as for god creating the universe and that crap, it is impossible for god to have created the universe, as, if there was nothing before the universe, and since god is made of matter, that matter cannot have existed if there is no universe for it to exist in. simple as that, something cannot exist if there is no space for it to exist in. that says that god cannot have existed before the universe did, and if thats true, then god would be made of hydrogen as thats what was in the early universe, hydrogen and helium, so god must = hydrogen and helium as all other elements were born from hydrogen and helium, hydrogen is the mother of all life. so logically god must = hydrogen.


God is made of matter? How did you come up with that conclusion?

Remember that people believe that for God, anything is possible. That includes creating something out of nothing, being in a space that has yet to exist and him not being made of matter. That alone destroyed your whole argument.
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vinsane01 wrote:


Yei wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:

Do you think god is real?
If so prove it.

To me I don't think he is and because i have proof.

If god was real then why did he let Jesus die? When he could have saved him with his powers?
Also if he was also real then what is he/ she or even it?


Wow that's amazing proof.

Yes I think God is real, because the belief in a higher power and benevolence are both innate in humans, and there has to be something that put that there. And that something is some sort of benevolent higher power. Also, I think it's crazy to believe we have no purpose or meaning to our lives considering the depth of human thinking (philosophy, religion, morality, etc).


That's your belief and cant dispute that. But that is not an entirely good argument. Our developed brains seek to know, gather knowledge and try to answer question to anything, including how we came to be. The idea of a God creating everything, is an idea resulting from lack of answers to a difficult question.
The concept of a God is not innate in all humans. Is there a study to prove that is indeed innate? Even if it did, Im certain the result of the research concludes that it is not innate in all humans. The belief in a God is passed down from generations to generations. A child being instilled with a belief of a God by his/her parents will surely grow up believing in what he brought up to believe. It will be hard to convince him/her otherwise.


My thoughts exactly.
Posted 3/14/09


I get it, but it makes me skeptical.
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Posted 3/14/09 , edited 3/14/09

vinsane01 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:


Yei wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:

EXACTLY! }:O See thank you for that stupid Yei person being a hater!
Btw if your not tolerant of other religions or bliefts then Don't Post seriously.


I've never really been bothered by extremely religious people trying to convert me and I've never been bothered the slightest bit by anyone trying to impose their religious beliefs on me. All the religious people I've discussed things with are very respectful and understanding and intelligent...

But some of the atheists I come across.....

I don't even wanna bother.


Fine I'm sorry if i made you feel bad but you guys don't understand what i'm trying to say.
I'm not converting you and i don't want to I don't want to make you feel bad and stuff.

I'MS ORRY TO THOSE WHO THINK I'M PROBABLY AN AZZ AND STUFF BUT ALL I'M TRYING TO PROVE IS MY THEORY.


You know off topic here but i really dont care, ima point this out to you : if you make someone else feel bad thats 100% their problem, same thing if you offend someone, 100% their problem, your not the one who feels bad, they are.


But as for god creating the universe and that crap, it is impossible for god to have created the universe, as, if there was nothing before the universe, and since god is made of matter, that matter cannot have existed if there is no universe for it to exist in. simple as that, something cannot exist if there is no space for it to exist in. that says that god cannot have existed before the universe did, and if thats true, then god would be made of hydrogen as thats what was in the early universe, hydrogen and helium, so god must = hydrogen and helium as all other elements were born from hydrogen and helium, hydrogen is the mother of all life. so logically god must = hydrogen.


God is made of matter? How did you come up with that conclusion?

Remember that people believe that for God, anything is possible. That includes creating something out of nothing, being in a space that has yet to exist and him not being made of matter. That alone destroyed your whole argument.
Yeah he not made of matter he is made of LOVE!

And he comes from the VOID of nothingness to spread his word to a speck of dust in a vass open space.

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Posted 3/14/09 , edited 3/14/09

vinsane01 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:


Yei wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:

EXACTLY! }:O See thank you for that stupid Yei person being a hater!
Btw if your not tolerant of other religions or bliefts then Don't Post seriously.


I've never really been bothered by extremely religious people trying to convert me and I've never been bothered the slightest bit by anyone trying to impose their religious beliefs on me. All the religious people I've discussed things with are very respectful and understanding and intelligent...

But some of the atheists I come across.....

I don't even wanna bother.


Fine I'm sorry if i made you feel bad but you guys don't understand what i'm trying to say.
I'm not converting you and i don't want to I don't want to make you feel bad and stuff.

I'MS ORRY TO THOSE WHO THINK I'M PROBABLY AN AZZ AND STUFF BUT ALL I'M TRYING TO PROVE IS MY THEORY.


You know off topic here but i really dont care, ima point this out to you : if you make someone else feel bad thats 100% their problem, same thing if you offend someone, 100% their problem, your not the one who feels bad, they are.


But as for god creating the universe and that crap, it is impossible for god to have created the universe, as, if there was nothing before the universe, and since god is made of matter, that matter cannot have existed if there is no universe for it to exist in. simple as that, something cannot exist if there is no space for it to exist in. that says that god cannot have existed before the universe did, and if thats true, then god would be made of hydrogen as thats what was in the early universe, hydrogen and helium, so god must = hydrogen and helium as all other elements were born from hydrogen and helium, hydrogen is the mother of all life. so logically god must = hydrogen.


God is made of matter? How did you come up with that conclusion?

Remember that people believe that for God, anything is possible. That includes creating something out of nothing, being in a space that has yet to exist and him not being made of matter. That alone destroyed your whole argument.


If god was not made of matter then it simply does not exist. Nothing cannot be something. And something cannot exist if there is no room for it to exist. But logically looking at how people speak of god, its safe to say god = hydrogen and helium.
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vinsane01 wrote:


Yei wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:

Do you think god is real?
If so prove it.

To me I don't think he is and because i have proof.

If god was real then why did he let Jesus die? When he could have saved him with his powers?
Also if he was also real then what is he/ she or even it?


Wow that's amazing proof.

Yes I think God is real, because the belief in a higher power and benevolence are both innate in humans, and there has to be something that put that there. And that something is some sort of benevolent higher power. Also, I think it's crazy to believe we have no purpose or meaning to our lives considering the depth of human thinking (philosophy, religion, morality, etc).


That's your belief and cant dispute that. But that is not an entirely good argument. Our developed brains seek to know, gather knowledge and try to answer question to anything, including how we came to be. The idea of a God creating everything, is an idea resulting from lack of answers to a difficult question.
The concept of a God is not innate in all humans. Is there a study to prove that is indeed innate? Even if it did, Im certain the result of the research concludes that it is not innate in all humans. The belief in a God is passed down from generations to generations. A child being instilled with a belief of a God by his/her parents will surely grow up believing in what he brought up to believe. It will be hard to convince him/her otherwise.


It's not innate in individual humans, but in humanity itself. The idea of a higher power was there all over the world, even with isolated peoples, and it stuck with the majority of humans from then on. And now the end result is today, an overwhelming majority of people have deep spiritual or religious beliefs, or at least believe in a higher power.

The idea of God creating everything comes, today at least, from logically coming to the conclusion that it is very unlikely that things today in the universe and in humanity turned out the way they did by chance. If we go back and calculate in every step, it eventually goes to a 1 in infinity chance pretty quickly. You can go with that insane number, but most people think the idea of intelligent design makes alot more sense. Something had to have designed how the universe functions and how everything in the world turned out. That's not from lack of answers, that's a logical assumption, because thinking otherwise seems alot more illogical considering the odds you're siding with.
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Posted 3/14/09

Allhailodin wrote:


vinsane01 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:


Yei wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:

EXACTLY! }:O See thank you for that stupid Yei person being a hater!
Btw if your not tolerant of other religions or bliefts then Don't Post seriously.


I've never really been bothered by extremely religious people trying to convert me and I've never been bothered the slightest bit by anyone trying to impose their religious beliefs on me. All the religious people I've discussed things with are very respectful and understanding and intelligent...

But some of the atheists I come across.....

I don't even wanna bother.


Fine I'm sorry if i made you feel bad but you guys don't understand what i'm trying to say.
I'm not converting you and i don't want to I don't want to make you feel bad and stuff.

I'MS ORRY TO THOSE WHO THINK I'M PROBABLY AN AZZ AND STUFF BUT ALL I'M TRYING TO PROVE IS MY THEORY.


You know off topic here but i really dont care, ima point this out to you : if you make someone else feel bad thats 100% their problem, same thing if you offend someone, 100% their problem, your not the one who feels bad, they are.


But as for god creating the universe and that crap, it is impossible for god to have created the universe, as, if there was nothing before the universe, and since god is made of matter, that matter cannot have existed if there is no universe for it to exist in. simple as that, something cannot exist if there is no space for it to exist in. that says that god cannot have existed before the universe did, and if thats true, then god would be made of hydrogen as thats what was in the early universe, hydrogen and helium, so god must = hydrogen and helium as all other elements were born from hydrogen and helium, hydrogen is the mother of all life. so logically god must = hydrogen.


God is made of matter? How did you come up with that conclusion?

Remember that people believe that for God, anything is possible. That includes creating something out of nothing, being in a space that has yet to exist and him not being made of matter. That alone destroyed your whole argument.


If god was not made of matter then it simply does not exist. Nothing cannot be something. And something cannot exist if there is no room for it to exist. But logically looking at how people speak of god, its safe to say god = hydrogen and helium.


First of im agnostic, and i dont know if god exist or not. But God as most religion believe is someone who can do anything. If you are suppose to make an argument you must consider this as a possibility since the concept of his/her/it existence has yet to be proven or disproven.
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vinsane01 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


vinsane01 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:


Yei wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:

EXACTLY! }:O See thank you for that stupid Yei person being a hater!
Btw if your not tolerant of other religions or bliefts then Don't Post seriously.


I've never really been bothered by extremely religious people trying to convert me and I've never been bothered the slightest bit by anyone trying to impose their religious beliefs on me. All the religious people I've discussed things with are very respectful and understanding and intelligent...

But some of the atheists I come across.....

I don't even wanna bother.


Fine I'm sorry if i made you feel bad but you guys don't understand what i'm trying to say.
I'm not converting you and i don't want to I don't want to make you feel bad and stuff.

I'MS ORRY TO THOSE WHO THINK I'M PROBABLY AN AZZ AND STUFF BUT ALL I'M TRYING TO PROVE IS MY THEORY.


You know off topic here but i really dont care, ima point this out to you : if you make someone else feel bad thats 100% their problem, same thing if you offend someone, 100% their problem, your not the one who feels bad, they are.


But as for god creating the universe and that crap, it is impossible for god to have created the universe, as, if there was nothing before the universe, and since god is made of matter, that matter cannot have existed if there is no universe for it to exist in. simple as that, something cannot exist if there is no space for it to exist in. that says that god cannot have existed before the universe did, and if thats true, then god would be made of hydrogen as thats what was in the early universe, hydrogen and helium, so god must = hydrogen and helium as all other elements were born from hydrogen and helium, hydrogen is the mother of all life. so logically god must = hydrogen.


God is made of matter? How did you come up with that conclusion?

Remember that people believe that for God, anything is possible. That includes creating something out of nothing, being in a space that has yet to exist and him not being made of matter. That alone destroyed your whole argument.


If god was not made of matter then it simply does not exist. Nothing cannot be something. And something cannot exist if there is no room for it to exist. But logically looking at how people speak of god, its safe to say god = hydrogen and helium.


First of im agnostic, and i dont know if god exist or not. But God as most religion believe is someone who can do anything. If you are suppose to make an argument you must consider this as a possibility since the concept of his/her/it existence has yet to be proven or disproven.


God cannot do the impossible, nothing can do the impossible.
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Allhailodin wrote:


vinsane01 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


vinsane01 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:


Yei wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:

EXACTLY! }:O See thank you for that stupid Yei person being a hater!
Btw if your not tolerant of other religions or bliefts then Don't Post seriously.


I've never really been bothered by extremely religious people trying to convert me and I've never been bothered the slightest bit by anyone trying to impose their religious beliefs on me. All the religious people I've discussed things with are very respectful and understanding and intelligent...

But some of the atheists I come across.....

I don't even wanna bother.


Fine I'm sorry if i made you feel bad but you guys don't understand what i'm trying to say.
I'm not converting you and i don't want to I don't want to make you feel bad and stuff.

I'MS ORRY TO THOSE WHO THINK I'M PROBABLY AN AZZ AND STUFF BUT ALL I'M TRYING TO PROVE IS MY THEORY.


You know off topic here but i really dont care, ima point this out to you : if you make someone else feel bad thats 100% their problem, same thing if you offend someone, 100% their problem, your not the one who feels bad, they are.


But as for god creating the universe and that crap, it is impossible for god to have created the universe, as, if there was nothing before the universe, and since god is made of matter, that matter cannot have existed if there is no universe for it to exist in. simple as that, something cannot exist if there is no space for it to exist in. that says that god cannot have existed before the universe did, and if thats true, then god would be made of hydrogen as thats what was in the early universe, hydrogen and helium, so god must = hydrogen and helium as all other elements were born from hydrogen and helium, hydrogen is the mother of all life. so logically god must = hydrogen.


God is made of matter? How did you come up with that conclusion?

Remember that people believe that for God, anything is possible. That includes creating something out of nothing, being in a space that has yet to exist and him not being made of matter. That alone destroyed your whole argument.


If god was not made of matter then it simply does not exist. Nothing cannot be something. And something cannot exist if there is no room for it to exist. But logically looking at how people speak of god, its safe to say god = hydrogen and helium.


First of im agnostic, and i dont know if god exist or not. But God as most religion believe is someone who can do anything. If you are suppose to make an argument you must consider this as a possibility since the concept of his/her/it existence has yet to be proven or disproven.


God cannot do the impossible, nothing can do the impossible.


That's pretty close minded.
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Allhailodin wrote:


vinsane01 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


vinsane01 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:


Yei wrote:


XxBillyxNoBS wrote:

EXACTLY! }:O See thank you for that stupid Yei person being a hater!
Btw if your not tolerant of other religions or bliefts then Don't Post seriously.


I've never really been bothered by extremely religious people trying to convert me and I've never been bothered the slightest bit by anyone trying to impose their religious beliefs on me. All the religious people I've discussed things with are very respectful and understanding and intelligent...

But some of the atheists I come across.....

I don't even wanna bother.


Fine I'm sorry if i made you feel bad but you guys don't understand what i'm trying to say.
I'm not converting you and i don't want to I don't want to make you feel bad and stuff.

I'MS ORRY TO THOSE WHO THINK I'M PROBABLY AN AZZ AND STUFF BUT ALL I'M TRYING TO PROVE IS MY THEORY.


You know off topic here but i really dont care, ima point this out to you : if you make someone else feel bad thats 100% their problem, same thing if you offend someone, 100% their problem, your not the one who feels bad, they are.


But as for god creating the universe and that crap, it is impossible for god to have created the universe, as, if there was nothing before the universe, and since god is made of matter, that matter cannot have existed if there is no universe for it to exist in. simple as that, something cannot exist if there is no space for it to exist in. that says that god cannot have existed before the universe did, and if thats true, then god would be made of hydrogen as thats what was in the early universe, hydrogen and helium, so god must = hydrogen and helium as all other elements were born from hydrogen and helium, hydrogen is the mother of all life. so logically god must = hydrogen.


God is made of matter? How did you come up with that conclusion?

Remember that people believe that for God, anything is possible. That includes creating something out of nothing, being in a space that has yet to exist and him not being made of matter. That alone destroyed your whole argument.


If god was not made of matter then it simply does not exist. Nothing cannot be something. And something cannot exist if there is no room for it to exist. But logically looking at how people speak of god, its safe to say god = hydrogen and helium.


First of im agnostic, and i dont know if god exist or not. But God as most religion believe is someone who can do anything. If you are suppose to make an argument you must consider this as a possibility since the concept of his/her/it existence has yet to be proven or disproven.


God cannot do the impossible, nothing can do the impossible.


The impossible is an impossibility within itself.
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