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Posted 3/20/09

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That was effin sick!!! I knew Ulquiorra was gonna get the shit beat out of him He simply messed with the wrong dude.

Amazing chapter though, way way better than Ulquiorras release chapters, although they were good too.

And with regards to his form... What wingdavid said sounds the most accurate so far. Ichigo doesn't seem to have control of himself atm and wasn't slightly phased at sending Orihime flying. It was similar with Kensei and Mashiro, except Ichigos at a way higher level of power.


kensei wasnt half dead and that wasnt his ultimate hollow form....he was simply turning into a hollow at first stage....which means his ultimate form would be totally badass..


Define to me what exactly this 'ultimate hollow form' is. Hollows evolve over time, so that was Kensei's ultimate form at the time, simply because thats as far as he reached. Plus he was half dead as Tosen wasted him with Suzumushi. But yeah these stages of hollow... how do they work exactly?
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Posted 3/21/09

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hitsuguya_akira wrote:


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That was effin sick!!! I knew Ulquiorra was gonna get the shit beat out of him He simply messed with the wrong dude.

Amazing chapter though, way way better than Ulquiorras release chapters, although they were good too.

And with regards to his form... What wingdavid said sounds the most accurate so far. Ichigo doesn't seem to have control of himself atm and wasn't slightly phased at sending Orihime flying. It was similar with Kensei and Mashiro, except Ichigos at a way higher level of power.


kensei wasnt half dead and that wasnt his ultimate hollow form....he was simply turning into a hollow at first stage....which means his ultimate form would be totally badass..


Define to me what exactly this 'ultimate hollow form' is. Hollows evolve over time, so that was Kensei's ultimate form at the time, simply because thats as far as he reached. Plus he was half dead as Tosen wasted him with Suzumushi. But yeah these stages of hollow... how do they work exactly?


ichigo had time and time again defeated his hollow form in his inside thus gaining control of it.....kensei hadnt done that.....he was just turning into a normal hollow not like how ichigo is turning into.....whatever hes turning into.
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Posted 3/21/09

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That was effin sick!!! I knew Ulquiorra was gonna get the shit beat out of him He simply messed with the wrong dude.

Amazing chapter though, way way better than Ulquiorras release chapters, although they were good too.

And with regards to his form... What wingdavid said sounds the most accurate so far. Ichigo doesn't seem to have control of himself atm and wasn't slightly phased at sending Orihime flying. It was similar with Kensei and Mashiro, except Ichigos at a way higher level of power.


kensei wasnt half dead and that wasnt his ultimate hollow form....he was simply turning into a hollow at first stage....which means his ultimate form would be totally badass..


Define to me what exactly this 'ultimate hollow form' is. Hollows evolve over time, so that was Kensei's ultimate form at the time, simply because thats as far as he reached. Plus he was half dead as Tosen wasted him with Suzumushi. But yeah these stages of hollow... how do they work exactly?


ichigo had time and time again defeated his hollow form in his inside thus gaining control of it.....kensei hadnt done that.....he was just turning into a normal hollow not like how ichigo is turning into.....whatever hes turning into.


just like how ichigo was turning into a hollow the first time....
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So Ichigo looks badass? Frankly I'm not entirely sure Ichigo is even conscious at the moment. Hell, he aint that cruel to hurt his friend or brutal enough "rip" off anyones arms. He has a conscious. This form is way badass and I wont be surprised if it takes atleast all the Captains to restrain him like it did to restrain Kensei and Mashiro. This reminds me alot of the TBTP arc. Of course Mashiro and Kensei were completly offguard for a take over and were still in a inner battle and everything but it seems like this time there is no struggle for dominance or else he wouldn't be this developed (he'd probably be like a lizard again).

If his Hollow has taken full control, would he really be considered a vastolorde arrancar? I don't think so because either way he started out as a shinigami (when he had Rukia's powers) and was naturally born a shinigami from his father. The shinigami part was in his blood and he was first a shinigami. Either way you cut it, he'd only be an arranca if he started out as a fallen soul or hollow.
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When I was reading that chapter I just started laughing uncontrollably when Ulquiorra got his arm ripped off.
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hitsuguya_akira wrote:


hitsuguya_akira wrote:


superhearing wrote:


hitsuguya_akira wrote:


superhearing wrote:

That was effin sick!!! I knew Ulquiorra was gonna get the shit beat out of him He simply messed with the wrong dude.

Amazing chapter though, way way better than Ulquiorras release chapters, although they were good too.

And with regards to his form... What wingdavid said sounds the most accurate so far. Ichigo doesn't seem to have control of himself atm and wasn't slightly phased at sending Orihime flying. It was similar with Kensei and Mashiro, except Ichigos at a way higher level of power.


kensei wasnt half dead and that wasnt his ultimate hollow form....he was simply turning into a hollow at first stage....which means his ultimate form would be totally badass..


Define to me what exactly this 'ultimate hollow form' is. Hollows evolve over time, so that was Kensei's ultimate form at the time, simply because thats as far as he reached. Plus he was half dead as Tosen wasted him with Suzumushi. But yeah these stages of hollow... how do they work exactly?


ichigo had time and time again defeated his hollow form in his inside thus gaining control of it.....kensei hadnt done that.....he was just turning into a normal hollow not like how ichigo is turning into.....whatever hes turning into.


just like how ichigo was turning into a hollow the first time....


Ahhh I think I get what your saying. So basically when Ichigo was turning into a hollow physically for the first time at the vaizards base, he was at his first stage just as Kensei and Mashiro similarly did so in the Pendulum Arc? And now this is Ichigo's ultimate hollow form, one step above the hollow form he was in at the Vaizards base? Makes sense I guess.
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Posted 3/22/09
best chapter ever cant wait to see more of this fight
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The thing with Ichigo is that you can't really define what he is simply because there hasn't been anything like him before. Everyone in this series is dead. Ichigo's a human and alive. Unlike the the Vizards, he gained his Hollow and Shinigami powers simultaneously. So we've got a human that gained Hollow and Shinigami powers then then conquered his inner hollow and now has gone from that to more of an Arrancar that has a resurrection form. I have no clue what's going on with him now. Can't wait for the next chapter.
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Posted 3/22/09

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hitsuguya_akira wrote:


hitsuguya_akira wrote:


superhearing wrote:


hitsuguya_akira wrote:


superhearing wrote:

That was effin sick!!! I knew Ulquiorra was gonna get the shit beat out of him He simply messed with the wrong dude.

Amazing chapter though, way way better than Ulquiorras release chapters, although they were good too.

And with regards to his form... What wingdavid said sounds the most accurate so far. Ichigo doesn't seem to have control of himself atm and wasn't slightly phased at sending Orihime flying. It was similar with Kensei and Mashiro, except Ichigos at a way higher level of power.


kensei wasnt half dead and that wasnt his ultimate hollow form....he was simply turning into a hollow at first stage....which means his ultimate form would be totally badass..


Define to me what exactly this 'ultimate hollow form' is. Hollows evolve over time, so that was Kensei's ultimate form at the time, simply because thats as far as he reached. Plus he was half dead as Tosen wasted him with Suzumushi. But yeah these stages of hollow... how do they work exactly?


ichigo had time and time again defeated his hollow form in his inside thus gaining control of it.....kensei hadnt done that.....he was just turning into a normal hollow not like how ichigo is turning into.....whatever hes turning into.


just like how ichigo was turning into a hollow the first time....


Ahhh I think I get what your saying. So basically when Ichigo was turning into a hollow physically for the first time at the vaizards base, he was at his first stage just as Kensei and Mashiro similarly did so in the Pendulum Arc? And now this is Ichigo's ultimate hollow form, one step above the hollow form he was in at the Vaizards base? Makes sense I guess.



yea i cudnt find the exact way to explain that....
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Posted 3/22/09

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When I was reading that chapter I just started laughing uncontrollably when Ulquiorra got his arm ripped off.


i laughed when irohime got thrown away like a bugg and ishda came
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Posted 3/22/09
uhmm.. In his new form.. Is it a "Vasto Lorde" type?
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When they talk about Vasto Lordes in the series, the image they show is this:

Ichigo looks very similar to that outline

Not saying that that's how all Vasto Lordes look nor that Ichigo is, just making an observation.

*wishes that someone in bleach would say that they're a Vasto Lorde to avoid the constant speculation*
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Posted 3/24/09

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When they talk about Vasto Lordes in the series, the image they show is this:

Ichigo looks very similar to that outline

Not saying that that's how all Vasto Lordes look nor that Ichigo is, just making an observation.

*wishes that someone in bleach would say that they're a Vasto Lorde to avoid the constant speculation*


When I first saw this image, I would think that it looked like Uluqiuorra... Because of his mask... But I thought that Visto Lorde are higher level Hollows which gone through the past stages of hollows. Ichigo wasn't even much a hollow to begin with...
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Posted 3/24/09 , edited 3/24/09
That VL silhouette also looks like stark minus the horns( same hollow hole location, body built and hair) but I still believe that only the only current VL arrancar is Wonderwice because He really looked humanoid in his hollow form.
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I'd say the top 4 Espada are all Vasto Lordes. But once again, we can only speculate because none of them have mentioned it. But I'd say it's the top 4 because they're all extremely powerful and I'd find it hard to believe that during this long search for Vasto Lordes that Aizen hasn't found any or just 1.

I'd say Stark is definitely one. His appearance is entirely human. All he has left of his mask is a necklace around his neck.

One other thing, could it be argued that even if none of them were Vasto Lordes, couldn't any of the top 4 espada be on the same level if not even stronger than a Vasto Lorde? I say this because, they're arrancar that have been improved by Aizen. A standard Vasto Lorde is the most powerful among the menos but that's not to suggest that they have shinigami powers like the arrancar.
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