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gundam 00 or gundam seed?
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gundam seed.
even the character and gundam designs were better. 00 is a bit wierd.
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i vote SEED but in general neither coz they r both great XD
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Gundam 00 coz its more realistic when it comes to the fact that Gundams are not invincible, and superior strategies/tactics are needed to win the day. Gundam Seed was nice, but after Kira got his hands on Strike Freedom... the series suck. One SHING (the blue diamond or whatever that dissolves on front of his face) = blast all surrounding enemies with laser guns and funnels. If only they stuck with Strike like the original Mobile Suit Gundam stick to using RX-78-2, Gundam Seed will be a much better anime than it does. Don't ask about Destiny and the second season of Gundam 00 please!!


Wait didn't I talked with you a while ago?? Ah w/e...

So tell me how is Mobile Suit Gundam 00 any more realistic than Mobile Suit Gundam Seed other than the fact that in season one (not season two) of Mobile Suit Gundam 00 had a somewhat realistic presentation of military war.

Is it how MAGICAL the GN-Drives are, like how even though its just a SINGLE dome shaped contraption its able to not only LIFT (00 Gundam/GOD Raiser is an exception), but also provide EVERLASTING energy to GN-Gundams? The fact that GN-Particles was gather from Jupiter? The bending beams with NO explanation as to why they bend? The dumb strategic move of using multiple clones doing Trans-Am kamikaze attacks? Or was it the realism of ridiculously broken GOD Raiser that makes even the almighty Strike Freedom look pathetic?

Back to topic,

Personally I would say,

Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 1 > Mobile Suit Gundam SEED > Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 2 > Mobile Suit Gundam Seed DESTINY

and wrong section OP

EDIT: Ah crap just forget about what I just said... I missed your last part of your post.
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SEED RULES! First season wasn't that good, but Destiny was awesome cuz Kira isn't a crybaby anymore and his attitude is calm n cool. The only problem I have with Gundam Seed are the fillers. Too many filler episodes and scenes.
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Kill099 wrote:

Gundam 00 coz its more realistic when it comes to the fact that Gundams are not invincible, and superior strategies/tactics are needed to win the day. Gundam Seed was nice, but after Kira got his hands on Strike Freedom... the series suck. One SHING (the blue diamond or whatever that dissolves on front of his face) = blast all surrounding enemies with laser guns and funnels. If only they stuck with Strike like the original Mobile Suit Gundam stick to using RX-78-2, Gundam Seed will be a much better anime than it does. Don't ask about Destiny and the second season of Gundam 00 please!!


Wait didn't I talked with you a while ago?? Ah w/e...

So tell me how is Mobile Suit Gundam 00 any more realistic than Mobile Suit Gundam Seed other than the fact that in season one (not season two) of Mobile Suit Gundam 00 had a somewhat realistic presentation of military war.

Is it how MAGICAL the GN-Drives are, like how even though its just a SINGLE dome shaped contraption its able to not only LIFT, but also provide energy to the mobile suit (00 Gundam/GOD Raiser is an exception)?? The fact that GN-Particles was gather from Jupiter? The bending beams with NO explanation as to why they bend? The dumb strategic move of using multiple clones doing Trans-Am kamikaze attacks? Or was it the realism of ridiculously broken GOD Raiser that makes even the almighty Strike Freedom look pathetic?

Back to topic,

Personally I would say,

Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 1 > Mobile Suit Gundam SEED > Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 2 > Mobile Suit Gundam Seed DESTINY

and wrong section OP


Oh no, not you again? You do love to quote and criticize my posts on Gundam, do you? Just as I said, please don't ask about the second season of Gundam 00. Was it so hard to understand?


Is it how MAGICAL the GN-Drives are, like how even though its just a SINGLE dome shaped contraption its able to not only LIFT, but also provide energy to the mobile suit (00 Gundam/GOD Raiser is an exception)?? The fact that GN-Particles was gather from Jupiter? The bending beams with NO explanation as to why they bend? The dumb strategic move of using multiple clones doing Trans-Am kamikaze attacks? Or was it the realism of ridiculously broken GOD Raiser that makes even the almighty Strike Freedom look pathetic?


Again, those are from Gundam 00 season 2, can't you understand plain english?

Ok, the first season of Gundam 00 portrayed that Gundams are not invincible. How many times that the Gundams were almost captured? How many times did they need and use a strategy to win the engagement? Season 1 stressed the weakness of any specialized group like Celestial Beings: numbers. Nations can overwhelm the Gundams with more resources and manpower. They also got lucky because of the GN-X's.

Then, Gundam Seed first season, oh a phase shift makes a Gundam impervious with conventional weapons. How can a colored Gundam do that?! They don't even employ a strategy nor need it coz Kira will just blast all his way through. They don't even specify what kind of "magical" fuel they use. They made nuclear weapons and nuclear powerplants useless because of nuclear cancellers, how can that cancel nuclear reactions? Is there such a thing? Then they made a nuclear canceller canceller (forgot what they call it) w/c powers Freedom, Justice and Providence, how did that contraption work?! Three pilots stole three Gundams made by the Earth Federation, why isn't there a pilot lock or any security system to prevent it?! If Kira was the sole ultimate coordinator, why did Athrun have the same SHING thingy that is supposed to be exclusive to "the ultimate coordinator". Is there a shortage of men in ORB that's why only girls pilot the Astray mobile suits?

Again, like what I said on your last quote on my post ended, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. You have no right to criticize my post coz ITS NOT A GOD DAMN FACT FINDING RESEARCH!!! Its my opinions, right or not, is still my opinion. I think you're a crazy Gundam Seed fanatic with no respect to other people's opinions. Again, how much do they pay you for this knowledge? You have an extensive knowledge in this field that you might have a good career out of this.




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gundam 00!! two thumbs up!!!
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i like gundam seed more since kira have the best gundam
demo i'll go with gundam 00 for the storyline =) and setsuna pretty cute



tough ques but gundam 00 win
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Oh no, not you again? You do love to quote and criticize my posts on Gundam, do you? Just as I said, please don't ask about the second season of Gundam 00. Was it so hard to understand?

Again, those are from Gundam 00 season 2, can't you understand plain english?

Ok, the first season of Gundam 00 portrayed that Gundams are not invincible. How many times that the Gundams were almost captured? How many times did they need and use a strategy to win the engagement? Season 1 stressed the weakness of any specialized group like Celestial Beings: numbers. Nations can overwhelm the Gundams with more resources and manpower. They also got lucky because of the GN-X's.

Then, Gundam Seed first season, oh a phase shift makes a Gundam impervious with conventional weapons. How can a colored Gundam do that?! They don't even employ a strategy nor need it coz Kira will just blast all his way through. They don't even specify what kind of "magical" fuel they use. They nuclear weapons useless because of nuclear cancellers, how can that cancel nuclear reactions? Is there such a thing? Then they made a nuclear canceller canceller (forgot what they call it) w/c powers Freedom, Justice and Providence, how did that contraption work?! Three pilots stole three Gundams made by the Earth Federation, why isn't there a pilot lock or any security system to prevent it?! If Kira was the sole ultimate coordinator, why did Athrun have the same SHING thingy that is supposed to be exclusive to "the ultimate coordinator". Is there a shortage of men in ORB that's why only girls pilot the Astray mobile suits?

Again, like what I said on your last quote on my post ended, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. You have no right to criticize my post coz ITS NOT A GOD DAMN FACT FINDING RESEARCH!!! Its my opinions, right or not, is still my opinion. I think you're a crazy Gundam Seed fanatic with no respect to other people's opinions. Again, how much do they pay you for this knowledge? You have an extensive knowledge in this field that you might have a good career out of this.



I guess you missed my EDIT part in my post ... My apologies for missing that last part of your post and misunderstanding your post.

PS* If you checked my profile you'll find out that I actually prefer UC, FC, and CC over the other time lines and once again I like to apologies for my RAGING because I thought you were one of those 0Shit fans who are sooo in love with MSG 00.
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Kill099 wrote:

Oh no, not you again? You do love to quote and criticize my posts on Gundam, do you? Just as I said, please don't ask about the second season of Gundam 00. Was it so hard to understand?

Again, those are from Gundam 00 season 2, can't you understand plain english?

Ok, the first season of Gundam 00 portrayed that Gundams are not invincible. How many times that the Gundams were almost captured? How many times did they need and use a strategy to win the engagement? Season 1 stressed the weakness of any specialized group like Celestial Beings: numbers. Nations can overwhelm the Gundams with more resources and manpower. They also got lucky because of the GN-X's.

Then, Gundam Seed first season, oh a phase shift makes a Gundam impervious with conventional weapons. How can a colored Gundam do that?! They don't even employ a strategy nor need it coz Kira will just blast all his way through. They don't even specify what kind of "magical" fuel they use. They nuclear weapons useless because of nuclear cancellers, how can that cancel nuclear reactions? Is there such a thing? Then they made a nuclear canceller canceller (forgot what they call it) w/c powers Freedom, Justice and Providence, how did that contraption work?! Three pilots stole three Gundams made by the Earth Federation, why isn't there a pilot lock or any security system to prevent it?! If Kira was the sole ultimate coordinator, why did Athrun have the same SHING thingy that is supposed to be exclusive to "the ultimate coordinator". Is there a shortage of men in ORB that's why only girls pilot the Astray mobile suits?

Again, like what I said on your last quote on my post ended, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. You have no right to criticize my post coz ITS NOT A GOD DAMN FACT FINDING RESEARCH!!! Its my opinions, right or not, is still my opinion. I think you're a crazy Gundam Seed fanatic with no respect to other people's opinions. Again, how much do they pay you for this knowledge? You have an extensive knowledge in this field that you might have a good career out of this.



I guess you missed my EDIT part in my post ... My apologies for missing that last part of your post and misunderstanding your post.

PS* If you checked my profile you'll find out that I actually prefer UC, FC, and CC over the other time lines and once again I like to apologies for my RAGING because I thought you were one of those 0Shit fans who are sooo in love with MSG 00.


Apologies accepted. I just look at things as they are, I didn't said that I liked Gundam 00 because it's 00 and bashing Gundam SEED altogether. I just think that Gundam 00 seems more realistic in some areas compared to SEED. Like I said on my first post regarding SEED, if only they stuck with Strike like the original MSG stick with RX-78-2 then the series will be much better than it is now. The reason why I don't like the season 2 of Gundam 00 to be discussed is because I hate to where Gundam 00 is heading to... These two series made an impression that season 2 always suck.
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Apologies accepted. I just look at things as they are, I didn't said that I liked Gundam 00 because it's 00 and bashing Gundam SEED altogether. I just think that Gundam 00 seems more realistic in some areas compared to SEED. Like I said on my first post regarding SEED, if only they stuck with Strike like the original MSG stick with RX-78-2 then the series will be much better than it is now. The reason why I don't like the season 2 of Gundam 00 to be discussed is because I hate to where Gundam 00 is heading to... These two series made an impression that season 2 always suck.


Well you clearly know I'm also extremely disappointed at season 2 of Mobile Suit Gundam 00 because of things like 00S2 giving us a horrible DBZ quality battle between the lame and undeveloped Mr.Bushido Vs. Setsuna by making it so full of failure it ended before the opening theme of episode 23.

I mostly blame Sunrise for the downfall of their season 2 animes. Basically ever since Seed, everything that was good the first time, Sunrise always intervene filling the second season with pointless fanservice, plot holes, bringing back dead characters because they have HUGE fan base, and showing ridiculously broken robots/characters (eg CGR2, DESTINY, 00S2, etc...)

You know I wouldn't mind Kira getting a mobile suit that's something similar to the Destiny (as in the 3 packs merge into one kind of thing), but nooooooo they gave us the Hi-Nu junior showoff...

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Kill099 wrote:


Apologies accepted. I just look at things as they are, I didn't said that I liked Gundam 00 because it's 00 and bashing Gundam SEED altogether. I just think that Gundam 00 seems more realistic in some areas compared to SEED. Like I said on my first post regarding SEED, if only they stuck with Strike like the original MSG stick with RX-78-2 then the series will be much better than it is now. The reason why I don't like the season 2 of Gundam 00 to be discussed is because I hate to where Gundam 00 is heading to... These two series made an impression that season 2 always suck.


Well you clearly know I'm also extremely disappointed at season 2 of Mobile Suit Gundam 00 because of things like 00S2 giving us a horrible DBZ quality battle between the lame and undeveloped Mr.Bushido Vs. Setsuna by making it so full of failure it ended before the opening theme of episode 23.

I mostly blame Sunrise for the downfall of their season 2 animes. Basically ever since Seed, everything that was good the first time, Sunrise always intervene filling the second season with pointless fanservice, plot holes, bringing back dead characters because they have HUGE fan base, and showing ridiculously broken robots/characters (eg CGR2, DESTINY, 00S2, etc...)

You know I wouldn't mind Kira getting a mobile suit that's something similar to the Destiny (as in the 3 packs merge into one kind of thing), but nooooooo they gave us the Hi-Nu junior showoff...



I think Bandai is to blame for Gundam's failures and introducing too much mobile suits that will be replaced after a few episodes just to sell kits. It's ironic that the Gundam model kits of Bandai made MSG popular, but now they have the power to influence the story and what should and not should be on the series. That's what we call capitalism.
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seed just pisses me off

they reused scenes soooo damn much OMG dude its like i saw the same mobile suit putting the same nuke into the same ship

freaking might as well be sailor moon and all they do is launch restock fire ...well instead of transforming soo much
and the freaking capt boobs when ever archangel was shot the bounce ALL THE TIME soo annoying

thats it really for me its not as good as 00 in every aspect it was good at some points but fail alot of times

soo many recap eps too that was fghey
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Gundam 00 coz its more realistic when it comes to the fact that Gundams are not invincible, and superior strategies/tactics are needed to win the day. !!


MORE REALISTIC!?!, are you beeing true to yourselves? I cant seem to get the idea of people can directly link to a computer beeing REALISTIC. The whole beeing called Innovator seemed crazy to me. No offense or detest anyone but JUST for me, i cant seem to absorb that very well you know. Thus as Lelouch said "Even Stategy does not work against real time batlle skill!" and evidence in Gundam00 also prove that they pretty much has no choice but to depend on Setsuna and 00 to win the fight so tactics do not work in time like this.

The Reason i believe that Seed series are better than 00 are these
First, the whole thing about beeings. Coordinator are geneticly improved beeing over natural, now looking it at biologicly, you can has a better children by has good genese right, so that sounds reasonable enough to me. However, a human can control other's through the mind and from far away (like what Ribon does to Harvey) seems arkward and not realistic. People is not a machine so this point seems pretty much out of place.
Secondly, about the character. I believe the Seed series did a much better job at character development whereas Gundam 00 does not deal much with it and so put out a battle in every episode to make up or to cover up the lack in character development through great, shining, well done and interesting battles. I really admire Gundam 00 about this good of its that the battle was very well done and interesting and the MOST important thing is that it does not has repeated moves which is the greatest downside of Seed which i know many people lost interest in Seed mostly because of it. However, you has to accept that the characters in Seed are better as you can see their development through time and they has to make their choices in their life and frustrated to live on.
Thus, the Seed series has rich viriaties of background music in it which attribute nicely in the emotionally engaging style of Seed. Not only the background music of the battles, they also have many piano songs which is very nice an amazing and actually absorb a person into the movie. To add in, Lacus has much better personality than Marina. She can be very solf during the peaceful time and can be stronger than anyone during the time of battle. Thus Lacus sings many great songs. In any side, Lacus is dominated and this is the fact.
About the Gundams, i have to admit that Gundam 00 did a amazing job at constructing and designing the Gundams, they looks GREAT. Yet, looking back at the time Seed was airing, it was something too. The fact that advanced in technology help bring about those shiny and sharp edged gundams you all see in 00 is the reason why you look down on the Gundams of Seed and this cannot be blame because they are in different time. Think this if Seed would air in the same time as 00, which one would you choose if Seed has similar beautifully look gundams and amazing battle fight like 00?
the last thing. DONT EVER CONPLAIN ABOUT KIRA!! i have heard many said "Kira is a freak and he dominate battles", "...shoot all the enemy". Then how would you answer when someone say "Setsuna is a freak when he use Transarm and fly like a light, no way can beat him, what BS" Each Gundam has their special ability, Freedom is to shoot multiple targets efficiently and to dominate with long range while 00 dominate with speed in short range with Transarm. And dont ever ask which one is faster because it is a never ending debate. You can say 00 is faster in transarm and also in normal thanks to twin drives but another can argues "Freedom has constant fast speed thanks to the nuclear power and its can even increase its speed through minutes thanks to the Voiture Lumire in the Wings when activated DRAGOONS. Each one has their special and so dont go too far and destroy or humilitate others' heroes.
So to sum up, i really believe the 00 series is Very good and worthseeing yet, Seed seems like a statue in the Gundam history that reaches very high and i think is better than others and it is the only gundam series that ever live such a big impression in me that would actually makes me like Gundams that much.


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