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Posted 4/14/09

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there is a timelimit thats true but surely double o will have enough time so far the only unit that can stand up to trans am is a unit with trans am it self but doulbe o does need recharge time but is able to fight still its trans am is recharged


huhu ... well trans-am ... is it a good thing ? maybe he can teleport ..but who said he can teleport on earth (normalle he can't, and no he didn't teleport against Ali)?!



well isn't that because his transformation being a true innovator wasn't complete and i think he might of teleported agasint ali remeber whn ali suddenly lost sight of setsuna but without teleport double o is still very fast


omg ..we begin a multiquote battle XD

well .. I think Freedom is faster ! more aerodynamic ! XD, and he's more cooler !
...so you saying Setsuna was a dumbass pilot when he isn't a real innovator ?



no i am saying there was things he couldn't do when he was normal like teleport and trans am burst mode but we don't have any top speed figures but i thought double o is faster and in trans am its much more faster i just think the reason freedom looks fast is coz of the repeated scenes in seed but we don't have any info but i guess even if freedom is faster it isn't as fast as a teleport also setsuna can sense a pilot thoughts he knows what kira will do b4 he does it


Multiquote battle episode 2

Well, maybe he cant sense a coordinator who dont use brainwaves but more natural senses ^^

Posted 4/14/09

Evyl-kun wrote:


lockon101 wrote:


Evyl-kun wrote:


lockon101 wrote:


Evyl-kun wrote:


lockon101 wrote:

there is a timelimit thats true but surely double o will have enough time so far the only unit that can stand up to trans am is a unit with trans am it self but doulbe o does need recharge time but is able to fight still its trans am is recharged


huhu ... well trans-am ... is it a good thing ? maybe he can teleport ..but who said he can teleport on earth (normalle he can't, and no he didn't teleport against Ali)?!



well isn't that because his transformation being a true innovator wasn't complete and i think he might of teleported agasint ali remeber whn ali suddenly lost sight of setsuna but without teleport double o is still very fast


omg ..we begin a multiquote battle XD

well .. I think Freedom is faster ! more aerodynamic ! XD, and he's more cooler !
...so you saying Setsuna was a dumbass pilot when he isn't a real innovator ?



no i am saying there was things he couldn't do when he was normal like teleport and trans am burst mode but we don't have any top speed figures but i thought double o is faster and in trans am its much more faster i just think the reason freedom looks fast is coz of the repeated scenes in seed but we don't have any info but i guess even if freedom is faster it isn't as fast as a teleport also setsuna can sense a pilot thoughts he knows what kira will do b4 he does it


Multiquote battle episode 2

Well, maybe he cant sense a coordinator who dont use brainwaves but more natural senses ^^



hmm he sensed saji,lockon,samuragi in episode 23 they have natural senses
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lockon101 wrote:


Evyl-kun wrote:


lockon101 wrote:


Evyl-kun wrote:


lockon101 wrote:


Evyl-kun wrote:


lockon101 wrote:

there is a timelimit thats true but surely double o will have enough time so far the only unit that can stand up to trans am is a unit with trans am it self but doulbe o does need recharge time but is able to fight still its trans am is recharged


huhu ... well trans-am ... is it a good thing ? maybe he can teleport ..but who said he can teleport on earth (normalle he can't, and no he didn't teleport against Ali)?!



well isn't that because his transformation being a true innovator wasn't complete and i think he might of teleported agasint ali remeber whn ali suddenly lost sight of setsuna but without teleport double o is still very fast


omg ..we begin a multiquote battle XD

well .. I think Freedom is faster ! more aerodynamic ! XD, and he's more cooler !
...so you saying Setsuna was a dumbass pilot when he isn't a real innovator ?



no i am saying there was things he couldn't do when he was normal like teleport and trans am burst mode but we don't have any top speed figures but i thought double o is faster and in trans am its much more faster i just think the reason freedom looks fast is coz of the repeated scenes in seed but we don't have any info but i guess even if freedom is faster it isn't as fast as a teleport also setsuna can sense a pilot thoughts he knows what kira will do b4 he does it


Multiquote battle episode 2

Well, maybe he cant sense a coordinator who dont use brainwaves but more natural senses ^^



hmm he sensed saji,lockon,samuragi in episode 23 they have natural senses



Multiquote battle episode 3
I mean ...his reflex ^^
Posted 4/14/09

Evyl-kun wrote:


lockon101 wrote:


Evyl-kun wrote:


lockon101 wrote:


Evyl-kun wrote:


lockon101 wrote:


Evyl-kun wrote:


lockon101 wrote:

there is a timelimit thats true but surely double o will have enough time so far the only unit that can stand up to trans am is a unit with trans am it self but doulbe o does need recharge time but is able to fight still its trans am is recharged


huhu ... well trans-am ... is it a good thing ? maybe he can teleport ..but who said he can teleport on earth (normalle he can't, and no he didn't teleport against Ali)?!



well isn't that because his transformation being a true innovator wasn't complete and i think he might of teleported agasint ali remeber whn ali suddenly lost sight of setsuna but without teleport double o is still very fast


omg ..we begin a multiquote battle XD

well .. I think Freedom is faster ! more aerodynamic ! XD, and he's more cooler !
...so you saying Setsuna was a dumbass pilot when he isn't a real innovator ?



no i am saying there was things he couldn't do when he was normal like teleport and trans am burst mode but we don't have any top speed figures but i thought double o is faster and in trans am its much more faster i just think the reason freedom looks fast is coz of the repeated scenes in seed but we don't have any info but i guess even if freedom is faster it isn't as fast as a teleport also setsuna can sense a pilot thoughts he knows what kira will do b4 he does it


Multiquote battle episode 2

Well, maybe he cant sense a coordinator who dont use brainwaves but more natural senses ^^



hmm he sensed saji,lockon,samuragi in episode 23 they have natural senses



Multiquote battle episode 3
I mean ...his reflex ^^


We need to have innovator vs coordinator coz really we are talking about which is the better gundam not which is the better pilot right?
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yep, we should ...btw ...Setsuna always end with a gundam in pieces ...(look last episode XD) *waves ...I'have to go*
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yep, we should ...btw ...Setsuna always end with a gundam in pieces ...(look last episode XD) *waves ...I'have to go*



well maybe thats because setsuna fights stronger bad guys then kira does i mean i think reborns gundam is a much better gundam then the legend gundam and if we did reborns gundam vs legend then we would say reborns gundam would win

Posted 4/28/09 , edited 4/28/09
strike freedom and raiser r like the same.
-both overpowered
-both fast
-both hv good pilotz
-but still kira is a better pilot.
setsuna excelz at meele but kira is just the ultimate corrodinator but has newtype senses. but he is NOT a newtype.
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Its Human-Innovator versus Coordiator and both 00 Gundam and Strike Freedom can run out of energy even though we've never seen Strike Freedom deplete its nuclear energy. Difference in weapons swords versus guns plus they probably can sense eachother after all Kira is the Ultimate Coordinator and Setsuna became the first True Innovator, another factor is how they control they're Gundams. Kira uses his own powers and doesn't depend on Strike Freedom as much and Setsuna who used to depend on the abilites of Exia probably doesn't depend on the ability of his Gundam anymore. So I would have to say there's a lot of things we're missing when trying to find out who the winner will be, since both also possess a lot of power even though 00 has more. Really I don't know who will win even though I'm for and against both.
EASY WAY TO FIND OUT:
Find a system where Setsuna/00 and Kira/Strike-Freedom can be simulated and let them fight it out.
Strike-Freedom/Kira Yamato:
-Nuclear Energy
-17 guns
-2 Rifles
-2 Upper cannons
-2 Lower cannons
-1 Lower chest cannon
-8 Wings
-2 Gauge (Head)
-2 beam sabers
-2 shields
-SEED
-Ultimate Coordinator
00/Setsuna F. Seiei:
-GN-Particles
-5 guns
-1 Gun/Sword
-2 Gun/Blade
-2 Lower arm
-2-GN-blades
-1-GN-sword III
-Raiser Sword
-2-beam sabers
-Boomerang (Unknown, probably 1 or 2)
-GN-Shield
-TRANS-AM
-Quantamizing
-Burst Mode
-Quantam Brain-waves (closest I can get to)
-True Innovator
Boy...This is a lot
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Its Human-Innovator versus Coordiator and both 00 Gundam and Strike Freedom can run out of energy even though we've never seen Strike Freedom deplete its nuclear energy. Difference in weapons swords versus guns plus they probably can sense eachother after all Kira is the Ultimate Coordinator and Setsuna became the first True Innovator, another factor is how they control they're Gundams. Kira uses his own powers and doesn't depend on Strike Freedom as much and Setsuna who used to depend on the abilites of Exia probably doesn't depend on the ability of his Gundam anymore. So I would have to say there's a lot of things we're missing when trying to find out who the winner will be, since both also possess a lot of power even though 00 has more. Really I don't know who will win even though I'm for and against both.
EASY WAY TO FIND OUT:
Find a system where Setsuna/00 and Kira/Strike-Freedom can be simulated and let them fight it out.
Strike-Freedom/Kira Yamato:
-Nuclear Energy
-17 guns
-2 Rifles
-2 Upper cannons
-2 Lower cannons
-1 Lower chest cannon
-8 Wings
-2 Gauge (Head)
-2 beam sabers
-SEED
-Ultimate Coordinator
00/Setsuna F. Seiei:
-GN-Particles
-5 guns
-1 Gun/Sword
-2 Gun/Blade
-2 Lower arm
-2-GN-blades
-1-GN-sword III
-2-beam sabers
-Boomerang (Unknown, probably 1 or 2)
-TRANS-AM
-Quantamizing
-Burst Mode
-Quantam Brain-waves (closest I can get to)
-True Innovator
Boy...This is a lot


Soooo.......Freedom wins?....look at the weapons, arent they outnumbered 00 Gundam?
Posted 5/15/09

azera wrote:


Hangyaku wrote:

Its Human-Innovator versus Coordiator and both 00 Gundam and Strike Freedom can run out of energy even though we've never seen Strike Freedom deplete its nuclear energy. Difference in weapons swords versus guns plus they probably can sense eachother after all Kira is the Ultimate Coordinator and Setsuna became the first True Innovator, another factor is how they control they're Gundams. Kira uses his own powers and doesn't depend on Strike Freedom as much and Setsuna who used to depend on the abilites of Exia probably doesn't depend on the ability of his Gundam anymore. So I would have to say there's a lot of things we're missing when trying to find out who the winner will be, since both also possess a lot of power even though 00 has more. Really I don't know who will win even though I'm for and against both.
EASY WAY TO FIND OUT:
Find a system where Setsuna/00 and Kira/Strike-Freedom can be simulated and let them fight it out.
Strike-Freedom/Kira Yamato:
-Nuclear Energy
-17 guns
-2 Rifles
-2 Upper cannons
-2 Lower cannons
-1 Lower chest cannon
-8 Wings
-2 Gauge (Head)
-2 beam sabers
-SEED
-Ultimate Coordinator
00/Setsuna F. Seiei:
-GN-Particles
-5 guns
-1 Gun/Sword
-2 Gun/Blade
-2 Lower arm
-2-GN-blades
-1-GN-sword III
-2-beam sabers
-Boomerang (Unknown, probably 1 or 2)
-TRANS-AM
-Quantamizing
-Burst Mode
-Quantam Brain-waves (closest I can get to)
-True Innovator
Boy...This is a lot


Soooo.......Freedom wins?....look at the weapons, arent they outnumbered 00 Gundam?


its not always about how many weapons a machine has but the quality of weapons the machine has and how the pilot makes the best out of those weapons besides 00 can fire a much bigger beam then freedom can't it? we did see it shoot down momento more after all
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