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Is it possible for evil to win in anime?
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Posted 3/29/09
no. there's gonna be a sequel if that happens.
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wolfsaiga wrote:


Digix wrote:

When good guys always win it becomes boring.
Are there any series where evil wins? Not necessary anime only.
Or it would be nice to see at least once how hero finally chooses evil side.

Currently only series that i know where it happens at some degree is PanyoPanyo Digi Charat
however we have few PC games where you can play evil character and win against good and stupid ones.

p.s. I hope there are no duplicates for this topic?


what that said, what is evil? some say evil disrupt balance. if heroes fight monster doesn't that disrupt the balance of monsters making the hero's evil? so technically there is no good or evil. just the side you on and grew accustom to for you would be good.


we are expecting that hero is protector of innocent and villain is oppressor.
so usually it does not matter who wins if humanity-universe is saved, even if both villain and hero die in the end.
evil resolve would be opposite, when hero sacrifices word for his own sake or when villain remains unpunished.

since today we lost all moral values, it would be common for everyone to sacrifice word for his own and family life.
for example for how much you would push button to kill all people in Somali?

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What is Evil?


biggest hopeless evil is when hero changes sides,
or when evil side wins.

Generaly evil is when inocent nameless characters are hurt, and so goody hero is trying to protect them by sacrificing himself.

in case of comedy we do not care about tertiary characters, because only hero party is ones who does matter. so it is no problem if word is destroyed to save these few.
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shayo wrote:

code geass
lulu was evil


Finish CG before commenting something like that


Actually evil won because: Lulu was considered "pure evil", Lulu eventaully achieved peace, Lulu wanted peace Evil = Lulu so evil gets what it wants and wins in the end by getting the greater good
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detroit metal city. those were the evilest guys ever
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i wish
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I'm kind of sick of the good guys winning. I wish that some time, at the end after the good guys think it's all over and the happily ever after ending is in the distance, the bad guy jumps back up, cuts off the good guys head and goes "HAH! Bitch!"


well that would be to nasty unless we have chance to see how that bad guy is going to live alone without his rival.
i think his life will become quite boring.
after all when hero defeats villain we have chance to see ending.
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Posted 3/29/09 , edited 3/29/09

Digix wrote:


wolfsaiga wrote:


Digix wrote:

When good guys always win it becomes boring.
Are there any series where evil wins? Not necessary anime only.
Or it would be nice to see at least once how hero finally chooses evil side.

Currently only series that i know where it happens at some degree is PanyoPanyo Digi Charat
however we have few PC games where you can play evil character and win against good and stupid ones.

p.s. I hope there are no duplicates for this topic?


what that said, what is evil? some say evil disrupt balance. if heroes fight monster doesn't that disrupt the balance of monsters making the hero's evil? so technically there is no good or evil. just the side you on and grew accustom to for you would be good.


we are expecting that hero is protector of innocent and villain is oppressor.
so usually it does not matter who wins if humanity-universe is saved, even if both villain and hero die in the end.
evil resolve would be opposite, when hero sacrifices word for his own sake or when villain remains unpunished.

since today we lost all moral values, it would be common for everyone to sacrifice word for his own and family life.
for example for how much you would push button to kill all people in Somali?



what is the innocent, there no such thing, we kill for our needs, humans live which in the balance of life a life will be loss so that one can live.
to live knowing another life is gone because of it, can you really call that innocent. most people wouldn't give much thought even if they knew this fact. and if to live i shall press the button. to live makes me innocent, but to let other die off makes me a tyrant if you must or evil.

lol well i don't wanna continue this, i was trying to confuse you a bit with the first post, but i was to tired and didn't do to much of a good job, well for the shows you want i guess i don't really have saw any, i know many titles but can't think of one right now. and no there not really makes its good, after all the main character is always someone good, its just opens more to people and you get ferious in the end. good winning isn't wat makes an series boring or bad. its how the storyline and how it attracts to your attention span. if they go on talking to long like tytania or something like that your bond to get bored eventually. and sinbad i guess could be taken as evil in one way and ruroini kenshin, he was deemed the battousai a human slayer, can you really redeem yourself from your action in the past?

truthfully i don't have an answer to any of the questions i have asked you its just something that leaves me confused and always will.

in the end though i know this is true it depends on how you perceice evil and good, there is nothing really as good and evil its just how each indiviuals perceive it.

and with your ideas i can't think of any other than stufff like pirates like sinbad and so forth.
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Koronus wrote:


macphapie wrote:


shayo wrote:

code geass
lulu was evil


Finish CG before commenting something like that


Actually evil won because: Lulu was considered "pure evil", Lulu eventaully achieved peace, Lulu wanted peace Evil = Lulu so evil gets what it wants and wins in the end by getting the greater good :D


I would only say that Lulu's actions were evil in its ways but his goal was peace, which I don't think is "evil". Lulu was only evil in the eyes of those who don't know the truth behind his acts.
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well i think so..
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Technically speaking, there is no concept of real evil in anime, just misunderstood villains. So I guess evil cant really win in anime. This is what makes anime better as compared to western animation. In western animation it's always good versus evil. In anime there is no such thing as good and evil.
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Hmmm i would actually like to see a anime of where the bad guy does win. It be different and I think could possibly make a good show.
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sure why wouldn't there be, only I don't know any, but I don't really care who wins as long as the battle is great,^^
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Posted 3/30/09

macphapie wrote:


Gaia93 wrote:


macphapie wrote:


CecilTheDarkKnight_234 wrote:


macphapie wrote:

Dunno but rape in hentai always wins


O.O yes it is do you have a bf <.<


Fuck guys why do you always notice the trivial stuff xD There are no females on the interwebz


So you're not a female?


Just tried it for a day.


shayo wrote:


macphapie wrote:


shayo wrote:


macphapie wrote:


shayo wrote:


macphapie wrote:


shayo wrote:


macphapie wrote:


shayo wrote:

code geass
lulu was evil


Finish CG before commenting something like that

i did finish it



I meant R2. If that is still your opinion then this is a first for me O.o


yes lulu died


He did or did not

i am sure he died at the end of the show



I am hoping he did. Lulu still being alive is just a speculation

i agree


Even after the explanation of Zero Requiem you still believe Lulu is evil O.o?

yes


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I agree CC was a witch LOL!XD
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