azn099 wrote:



i don't know how many people were affected by the handover. however i doubt it was immensely dramatic and serious. many people that lived in HK before the handover, are still there. yes a number moved before the handover, but after it's not like everybody ran out and HK became a ghost city. also i don't see many people flying out of HK crying about how their lives were ruined, how much china sucks dick, and how it needs to burn in hell for being so utterly evil.

i don't know how many factories the US had back then or how many factories china has now. the number of factories in the US peaked during around world war II, and during that time there were factories all across the united states. china today has many more factories than any other country in the world but that is not the reason why china is producing so much pollution. the reason is that all the cities, factories, etc. in china need power. power comes from electrical plants which in china, run on mainly on coal. coal produces a lot of greenhouse gas emissions. china is trying to lower its use on coal and build more on hydroelectrical power and other methods. china has made a goal of harnessing 10% of its total power from renewable sources by around 2025 i think.

however to be realistic, today there is still no truly clean way that is also efficient enough to provide to everybody. all fossil fuels cause enormous amounts of air pollution, solar power isn't enough to power everybody, wind power can only be used in certain areas, nuclear fission produces large amounts of the radioactive and dangerous nuclear waste, hydroelectric power can only be harnessed in areas near rivers, nuclear fusion still needs to be invented, etc etc etc. until we find a way that will work both ways, we'll be stuck until our fossil fuels run low, and we eventually start world war III. if we can find a way that will work before that, then yay.

the US did not just sell amongst themselves. they sold them to europe and japan as the US was one of the world's major providers of manufactured goods. the US only sunk away from world trade in the second half of the 1920's when the fordney-mccumber tariff was passed and also through the worst part of the great depression. once world war II started and especially after the US joined the war, production skyrocketed and unemployment was near 0%. after the war the US took up reign as the leader in world trade, and today the US imports most of its goods.

china IS aware of the pollution it is causing. however there's not much they can do about it. do you really expect china to just shut down all its factories? no that would crazy. once industrialization and modernization start, there's nothing you can really do to stop it. there are sweatshops across the country where workers work for some of the lowest wages in the world. the weird thing is, people in china rarely ever complain. they never ask for less hours, and employers sometimes have to force them to go home because they won't stop working. crazy ass mofo's

global warming will not end the world. it will just melt the ice caps. that will cause a drastic change in world climate and possibly wipe out thousands or more of different species of animals and plants. i forget how high ocean levels will rise by, but it will be enough to flood coast areas around the world. however the world will not end. it'll just be very different from today, and you probably won't be able to find any areas in the world that are freezing cold.

i'm not bragging. it's true how much china has contributed to the world. i could say the same for a number of other civilizations. the greeks, romans, egyptians, indians (the ones in india), persians, and mesopotamians also had a large impact on the world, and their contributions were just as important as the chinese. perhaps the most influential civilization in history were the sumerians.

that might possibly be true but if the chinese government (which would certainly have the most accurate data) and numerous international organizations all say that the poverty level in china is less than 10%, then what can you do to disprove that. do you, me, or anybody else have a more accurate percentage than they do? i doubt it.

those videos have nothing to do with china not being a sovereign country. do you know what the definition of a sovereign country is? it is a where a nation is independent and fully able to govern the territory inside its borders.

i doubt that. fresh water could easily be purified through any one of the ridiculous number of dams china is popping up on its rivers. of course the chinese people will and already do regret the damage they have done to their environment. however between choosing the environment or living a privileged life in a modern city, most would choose the city.

i'll use america as an example to demonstrate this. america was once covered with forests and all of the continental united states was once a lush green land. now what do you see? cities, lights, roads, cars, and people all over the place. do you think anybody regrets living in that? no except maybe some naturalists who want to live "as one with nature." most people in developed countries by nature are selfish. americans are happy with their current lives that include electricity, running water, cell phones, the internet (and the massive amount of porn on it), naruto, and ak-47s.

azn099 wrote:



i don't know how many people were affected by the handover. however i doubt it was immensely dramatic and serious. many people that lived in HK before the handover, are still there. yes a number moved before the handover, but after it's not like everybody ran out and HK became a ghost city. also i don't see many people flying out of HK crying about how their lives were ruined, how much china sucks dick, and how it needs to burn in hell for being so utterly evil.

i don't know how many factories the US had back then or how many factories china has now. the number of factories in the US peaked during around world war II, and during that time there were factories all across the united states. china today has many more factories than any other country in the world but that is not the reason why china is producing so much pollution. the reason is that all the cities, factories, etc. in china need power. power comes from electrical plants which in china, run on mainly on coal. coal produces a lot of greenhouse gas emissions. china is trying to lower its use on coal and build more on hydroelectrical power and other methods. china has made a goal of harnessing 10% of its total power from renewable sources by around 2025 i think.

however to be realistic, today there is still no truly clean way that is also efficient enough to provide to everybody. all fossil fuels cause enormous amounts of air pollution, solar power isn't enough to power everybody, wind power can only be used in certain areas, nuclear fission produces large amounts of the radioactive and dangerous nuclear waste, hydroelectric power can only be harnessed in areas near rivers, nuclear fusion still needs to be invented, etc etc etc. until we find a way that will work both ways, we'll be stuck until our fossil fuels run low, and we eventually start world war III. if we can find a way that will work before that, then yay.

the US did not just sell amongst themselves. they sold them to europe and japan as the US was one of the world's major providers of manufactured goods. the US only sunk away from world trade in the second half of the 1920's when the fordney-mccumber tariff was passed and also through the worst part of the great depression. once world war II started and especially after the US joined the war, production skyrocketed and unemployment was near 0%. after the war the US took up reign as the leader in world trade, and today the US imports most of its goods.

china IS aware of the pollution it is causing. however there's not much they can do about it. do you really expect china to just shut down all its factories? no that would crazy. once industrialization and modernization start, there's nothing you can really do to stop it. there are sweatshops across the country where workers work for some of the lowest wages in the world. the weird thing is, people in china rarely ever complain. they never ask for less hours, and employers sometimes have to force them to go home because they won't stop working. crazy ass mofo's

global warming will not end the world. it will just melt the ice caps. that will cause a drastic change in world climate and possibly wipe out thousands or more of different species of animals and plants. i forget how high ocean levels will rise by, but it will be enough to flood coast areas around the world. however the world will not end. it'll just be very different from today, and you probably won't be able to find any areas in the world that are freezing cold.

i'm not bragging. it's true how much china has contributed to the world. i could say the same for a number of other civilizations. the greeks, romans, egyptians, indians (the ones in india), persians, and mesopotamians also had a large impact on the world, and their contributions were just as important as the chinese. perhaps the most influential civilization in history were the sumerians.

that might possibly be true but if the chinese government (which would certainly have the most accurate data) and numerous international organizations all say that the poverty level in china is less than 10%, then what can you do to disprove that. do you, me, or anybody else have a more accurate percentage than they do? i doubt it.

those videos have nothing to do with china not being a sovereign country. do you know what the definition of a sovereign country is? it is a where a nation is independent and fully able to govern the territory inside its borders.

i doubt that. fresh water could easily be purified through any one of the ridiculous number of dams china is popping up on its rivers. of course the chinese people will and already do regret the damage they have done to their environment. however between choosing the environment or living a privileged life in a modern city, most would choose the city.

i'll use america as an example to demonstrate this. america was once covered with forests and all of the continental united states was once a lush green land. now what do you see? cities, lights, roads, cars, and people all over the place. do you think anybody regrets living in that? no except maybe some naturalists who want to live "as one with nature." most people in developed countries by nature are selfish. americans are happy with their current lives that include electricity, running water, cell phones, the internet (and the massive amount of porn on it), naruto, and ak-47s.