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Seizing control of god for ourselves
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Ever heard the expression the creation taking control of the creator, and example of this would be if humanity created an artifical intelligence and it enslaved us, why can't we apply this concept to "god", is were truly his "Creation"" what's stopping us (the creation) from simply turning around and seizing control of "god" (the creator) and using it for ourselves ? Tons of people say they've found "god", so what's stopping them from seizing control of it ? Is it possible to turn on "god" and seize control of it for ourselves ? and if not why not ? If god truly exists, what's stopping us from taking control of it ?
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Well the fact that he can supposedly do anything and everything, which includes wiping us all from existence in an instant, is a pretty big obstacle.
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Well the fact that he can supposedly do anything and everything, which includes wiping us all from existence in an instant, is a pretty big obstacle.


even, so if you believed in god wouldn't you still try to gain control of him ? I mean if you had control of "god" you could do whatever the fuck you wanted, solve world hunger and poverty, make yourself fucking rich, make every human on earth except you dance and sing without stopping till they die from exaustion, or just a few people who piss you off dance to their death. If i believed in god i'd try to get my hands on that power, even if the entire human race is at risk. Be awesome, i'd have so much fun doing shit to people, like teleporting them 10,000 feet above ground and letting them discover gravity first hand. all kinds of shit. be great.
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Cuddlebuns wrote:

Well the fact that he can supposedly do anything and everything, which includes wiping us all from existence in an instant, is a pretty big obstacle.


even, so if you believed in god wouldn't you still try to gain control of him ? I mean if you had control of "god" you could do whatever the fuck you wanted, solve world hunger and poverty, make yourself fucking rich, make every human on earth except you dance and sing without stopping till they die from exaustion, or just a few people who piss you off dance to their death. If i believed in god i'd try to get my hands on that power, even if the entire human race is at risk. Be awesome, i'd have so much fun doing shit to people, like teleporting them 10,000 feet above ground and letting them discover gravity first hand. all kinds of shit. be great.


The problem is that you can't gain control of him, since he can do anything and everything, then he can simply prevent you from controlling him.
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Allhailodin wrote:


Cuddlebuns wrote:

Well the fact that he can supposedly do anything and everything, which includes wiping us all from existence in an instant, is a pretty big obstacle.


even, so if you believed in god wouldn't you still try to gain control of him ? I mean if you had control of "god" you could do whatever the fuck you wanted, solve world hunger and poverty, make yourself fucking rich, make every human on earth except you dance and sing without stopping till they die from exaustion, or just a few people who piss you off dance to their death. If i believed in god i'd try to get my hands on that power, even if the entire human race is at risk. Be awesome, i'd have so much fun doing shit to people, like teleporting them 10,000 feet above ground and letting them discover gravity first hand. all kinds of shit. be great.


The problem is that you can't gain control of him, since he can do anything and everything, then he can simply prevent you from controlling him.


Well isnt the idea he gave us free will ? If i have free will i can try. ANd besides there has to be some loophole, everything has a way around it, nothing is perfect. So it has to be possible. BEsides id i fail i can just contract satan to help right ?
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Allhailodin wrote:
Well isnt the idea he gave us free will ? If i have free will i can try. ANd besides there has to be some loophole, everything has a way around it, nothing is perfect. So it has to be possible. BEsides id i fail i can just contract satan to help right ?


The Christian God is a perfect being, so there is no loophole. Even if you somehow found one, he's God and he can do anything, so he'd just fix it. And he could easily get rid of Satan, so no point in asking him.
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Allhailodin wrote:
Well isnt the idea he gave us free will ? If i have free will i can try. ANd besides there has to be some loophole, everything has a way around it, nothing is perfect. So it has to be possible. BEsides id i fail i can just contract satan to help right ?


The Christian God is a perfect being, so there is no loophole. Even if you somehow found one, he's God and he can do anything, so he'd just fix it. And he could easily get rid of Satan, so no point in asking him.


Pshh, nothing is a prefect being, and simply fixing a loophole isn't that easy, and last time i checked god and satan were just about even in their power and abilities, so asking satan would get a lot further then doing it alone. Still be fun to try.
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Allhailodin wrote:
Pshh, nothing is a prefect being, and simply fixing a loophole isn't that easy, and last time i checked god and satan were just about even in their power and abilities, so asking satan would get a lot further then doing it alone. Still be fun to try.


The Christian God is a perfect being. If you're going to assume he exists, then you have to play by his rules. And since he can change those rules at any time to suit his desires, then there's no way to beat him.
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Allhailodin wrote:
Pshh, nothing is a prefect being, and simply fixing a loophole isn't that easy, and last time i checked god and satan were just about even in their power and abilities, so asking satan would get a lot further then doing it alone. Still be fun to try.


The Christian God is a perfect being. If you're going to assume he exists, then you have to play by his rules. And since he can change those rules at any time to suit his desires, then there's no way to beat him.


Pshh, nothing is a perfect being, not even the non existant christain god. Perfection does not exist. And it's simple why should i have to play by his rules, his rules mean nothing to me. he shall play by my rules.
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Allhailodin wrote:


Cuddlebuns wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:
Pshh, nothing is a prefect being, and simply fixing a loophole isn't that easy, and last time i checked god and satan were just about even in their power and abilities, so asking satan would get a lot further then doing it alone. Still be fun to try.


The Christian God is a perfect being. If you're going to assume he exists, then you have to play by his rules. And since he can change those rules at any time to suit his desires, then there's no way to beat him.


Pshh, nothing is a perfect being, not even the non existant christain god. Perfection does not exist. And it's simple why should i have to play by his rules, his rules mean nothing to me. he shall play by my rules.


Your rules mean nothing to him, because he's perfect and he can make them as important or as trivial as he likes. If you're going to assume that he doesn't exists, then there's no way to take control of him and his non-existent divine powers.
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Yeah it is tricky to kill what you cannot see , but I guess if you could make yourself a god through immortality, invulnerability, and you could also create life of many different forms and then not be taken down by some higher power then I think you would win since you have proven that the god we seem to all know does not exist.
Posted 4/3/09
I feel that humans are going to create god.
I mean really.
Look at evolution.
So far, whatever genetic trait that benefits the continuation of the genes is always kept.
So, won't we keep fucking each other until some mutant pops out with the power of god?
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I feel that humans are going to create god.
I mean really.
Look at evolution.
So far, whatever genetic trait that benefits the continuation of the genes is always kept.
So, won't we keep fucking each other until some mutant pops out with the power of god?


He'd be taked by the goverment and expermianted on.
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...But you cant see god ._. Sure he exists but since you cant even see him (let alone lay a finger on him) then no matter how hard you try its futile. Oh, are you an atheist or free-thinker? o.o Uh nvm. So basically....You can never control god. I suppose if god isnt fair, he'd kill you on the spot and send you to hell for eternity or somethin (my own religious belief....almost) Now then..... If someone (like you) were to take control of the world, this place will be in a catastrophe of some sort. So what? Youre gonna use the powers you so called "seized" from god and use it for your own purposes? If that was His intentions then the whole word will have godly powers and never die (unless of course...soomeone kills another person, bombing, wars etc). Ugh i guess ridiculous people do exist. And if god were really materialised, people around the world will be hunting him down and battling each other to take control of him. Common sense =.= And dont go telling me about some religions that pray to their god-statues bcos im not so retarded tyvm. And i still dont know why i bother answering such a ridiculous question.
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