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we will probably be extinct before we see this happen. in the event that we do survive, we'll probably have the technology to be able to relocate somewhere else. even if it comes in a few million years, that is a long time seeing as how much our technology has advanced since 5,000 - 10,000 years ago. by a million years from now we will probably have some crazy ass technology like manipulation of matter and energy or some other scary shit like that. i'm willing to bet we'll be gone before that though.
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Yeah, which is probably why it is taking longer to do than the observer satellites. All the others have to do is look, after all.


But personally I think there wasting their time with that, going to Titan should be higher up on the to do list, and getting a close up of its entire surface, to look for anything thats not naturally occurring I.E a built structure or man made formation or rocks or something along those lines, before actually landing on its surface ansd taking soil samples and atmosphere samples and all that good shit, a non naturally occurring anything would be an immediate sign that life is there and its intelligent enough to create stuff out of its enviroment.
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Well, they can do that but it will also be nice that they actually search for other spots to search while doing the machines for the moons. But yeah, a lander to there will be helpful but maybe they are waiting for the right year that Jupiter is closest to Earth. Mars is like every two years so Jupiter might take longer, and as they do the robots to go there, it might be also good to search the vast unknown galaxies scattered and possibly undiscovered.

The latest information (2005?) on Mars are also interesting by the way. The last two robots there suggested that there was water there (clues provided by the spherical tiny rock formations, an iron oxide that only forms with water, and the long discovered trenches) (NOVA).

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Well, they can do that but it will also be nice that they actually search for other spots to search while doing the machines for the moons. But yeah, a lander to there will be helpful but maybe they are waiting for the right year that Jupiter is closest to Earth. Mars is like every two years so Jupiter might take longer, and as they do the robots to go there, it might be also good to search the vast unknown galaxies scattered and possibly undiscovered.

The latest information (2005?) on Mars are also interesting by the way. The last two robots there suggested that there was water there (clues provided by the spherical tiny rock formations, an iron oxide that only forms with water, and the long discovered trenches) (NOVA).

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Well of course there was liquid water there, mars was rather earth like at one point, had liquid water, could have had life evolve on it, but that never happened, the liquid water froze into a polar ice cap, might be some liquid or frozen water sub surface tho. I mean where else could the massive trenches come from, unless they were carved by water or formed by some techtonic plate deal, so finding ice in the trenches is no surprise. those trenches were probally filled with a liquid water or a glacier at one point. Most of the water/ice is probally subsurface tho
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Yeah, the theory states that the water is below ground, and the poles of course, as seen through satellites and strong telescopes. It might have been too late for us though to see if it had life or not since it is pretty barren now. Maybe they should try experimenting on Earth like creating a cell through other liquids and one that has the ability to facilitate reactions as well as divide? Not like they have not, I mean, they most likely did since life creation has been puzzling for years. Though, I still need to find sources on those that do not involve water.

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Yeah, the theory states that the water is below ground, and the poles of course, as seen through satellites and strong telescopes. It might have been too late for us though to see if it had life or not since it is pretty barren now. Maybe they should try experimenting on Earth like creating a cell through other liquids and one that has the ability to facilitate reactions as well as divide? Not like they have not, I mean, they most likely did since life creation has been puzzling for years. Though, I still need to find sources on those that do not involve water.



Well there could be bacteria like organisms in the soil or maybe frozen in the ice somewhere, but single celled life is still life. Possible, hell for all we know there could be bacteria like things on the ice rings of saturn. But i'd say bacteria on mars is possible. Well we've been able to make molocules that can divide but they werent self sustaining molocules and they would have died on there own from what i've read. dunno if its true or not. but i can see bacteria on mars, would make sense.
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azn099 wrote:

we will probably be extinct before we see this happen. in the event that we do survive, we'll probably have the technology to be able to relocate somewhere else. even if it comes in a few million years, that is a long time seeing as how much our technology has advanced since 5,000 - 10,000 years ago. by a million years from now we will probably have some crazy ass technology like manipulation of matter and energy or some other scary shit like that. i'm willing to bet we'll be gone before that though.


I concur. We are pretty much screwing up the planet without the sun to be contributing. Seriously technology went from a steady to a high

excuse my bad drawing LOL but yes with technology contiruting to the pollution our chances of needed a resolution about the sun blow up or even seeing it is slim to none.

My theory: The human race will no longer stand to see the sun blow up.
Posted 4/10/09
Good thing we're going to die before all that happens.
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I agree with most of the people here on the fact that the human race will be long gone before the sun comes close to killing us all.
and any way its not like we'll be alive to see it happen unless we make some thing that allows us to live for thousands of years...short of that many of us won't even see 2100 T^T
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I believe humans will be gone before that happens but I watched a program about black holes. Supposedly black holes are another gate way to another part of our galaxy or universe. In theory we can build machines that can rip space and create a black hole with very powerful high level lasers. If we have these machines by this time then long journey space travel will probably exist, like gundam or cowboy bebop. For ever what reasons we leave the Earth they say black hole travel be a option to save the human race from extinction. Of course these are only ideas and in theory. Hell black hole travel more than likey will destory anything a molecular level I think. Correct me if Im wrong. I still believe humans race will be long gone before that.
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As you can see from this chart, in another 5 billion years we're all screwed. The Sun will enter its Red Giant phase, than its outer layers will expand. Blah, blah, blah, helium fusion. It will expand so large that it engulfs Mercury and Venus, turning the earth into nothing but a firey rock (or destroying it I guess) and killing just about everyone and anything that's still alive at that time.

Doesn't have enough mass to turn supernova though.

Feel kinda sorry for the people that have to suffer through that...I'll be long dead but still.
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As you can see from this chart, in another 5 billion years we're all screwed. But than again, I really don't care what happens, since I won't be alive that long. Sucks for the people who do though.


Its actually 1 billion years, because the sun will get hotter, and once it gets hotter, earth's temp will be too high for life to survive, water boils off, and so on, kinda suck to be that generation. a billion years ago it was dimmer, and in a billion years it'll be brighter.
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Gaia93 wrote:



As you can see from this chart, in another 5 billion years we're all screwed. But than again, I really don't care what happens, since I won't be alive that long. Sucks for the people who do though.


Its actually 1 billion years, because the sun will get hotter, and once it gets hotter, earth's temp will be too high for life to survive, water boils off, and so on, kinda suck to be that generation. a billion years ago it was dimmer, and in a billion years it'll be brighter.


I'm just looking at the part where it turns into a red giant. But I guess as it gets hotter, people will start dying, right? So will be long dead before the sun even reaches that stage.

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Allhailodin wrote:


Gaia93 wrote:



As you can see from this chart, in another 5 billion years we're all screwed. But than again, I really don't care what happens, since I won't be alive that long. Sucks for the people who do though.


Its actually 1 billion years, because the sun will get hotter, and once it gets hotter, earth's temp will be too high for life to survive, water boils off, and so on, kinda suck to be that generation. a billion years ago it was dimmer, and in a billion years it'll be brighter.


I'm just looking at the part where it turns into a red giant. But I guess as it gets hotter, people will start dying, right? So will be long dead before the sun even reaches that stage.



Yeah, when it turns into a red giant, the earth will be dead long before the expanding sun ever actually reaches it, I remember hearing somewhere, that in a mere million years, the sun will have expanded by 11% and thus cause the earth to become to hot, dunno if it's true or not, but in a billion years there will be no life on this rock. Unless we've moved to other earth like planets we're fucked, but we'll probally be long dead because of a nuclear war or something long before that, Meteor or something, doubt we'll last another 1000 years myself.
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Hmm.. So, Sun will not become a blackhole?

So, Sun will just turn to Red Giant and then poosh~* into a small dwarf..


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