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Atheist against all Gods? Not really (explained.)
Posted 10/9/10
Im not against god or people believing in god, I just lost faith in him. Really any sort of god doesn't mean much to me.
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Posted 10/9/10
S'okay. Haruhi is god anyways.

Well, I'm "pretty" sure.
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Posted 10/11/10

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

CHristians are atheist to pagan gods...




Probably the dumbest thing I've heard recently.

Atheism is not synonymous to "not believing in". Atheism means "not believing in deities", period.
Pagan god worshipers or Christians cannot possibly be "atheist", period.
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Posted 3/17/11
Not necessarily. I am an atheist and I have plenty of religious friends. I respect their beliefs, don't try to "convert" them, and I certainly don't hold anything against who they believe in. Just because you don't believe in something, doesn't mean you're against it.
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Posted 3/18/11

pasteloverdose wrote:

Not necessarily. I am an atheist and I have plenty of religious friends. I respect their beliefs, don't try to "convert" them, and I certainly don't hold anything against who they believe in. Just because you don't believe in something, doesn't mean you're against it.

+1 Thank you. I myself am an agnostic.
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Posted 3/19/11
I'm, Atheist, Antitheist and Nihilistic. I actually take offense to religion and think it needs to be wiped of the face of this planet.
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Posted 3/19/11
In my opinion, you can dislike every religion that you don't lke, but in fact, there is no "real" proof for any god to exist. But there are a few facts which suggest that Jesus might have existed and what is so bad about a guy who said that killing was bad and that people should be nice to each other?
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Posted 7/9/11
The religion topics get on my nerves!
This is the reason we have war dammit!!!
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Posted 7/11/11
Well, I can say that I'm an atheist. Let me set aside my other beliefs and look at this alone. The only requirement about atheism is that you do not believe in any sort god or supreme being. It is not to a specific god or gods, it is the entire concept. As priorly mentioned, a Christian and a Pagan will not agree on what a god is, but they both believe in the existance of one (or many). Thus, they can not be atheist. An atheist is nothing more than this.

Some people try saying that atheists are actively against god, that's antitheism. (Little tidbit, especially for note to an earlier post: you can not be both atheist and antitheist. Being antitheist requires the acknowledgment of a god, or the concept of such, to be against. An atheist does not believe in such, and thus has nothing to go against.) Others may say that atheists are against religion; that's nihilism. An atheist CAN also be a nihilist, but this is not always the case. (If you try to say you don't believe religion exists, then the word for that is delusional.) Likewise, being nihilist does not mean you are atheist; agnostic is actually the most common type of nihilism. (An agnostic nihilist does believe in god(s), but believes that religions' interpretations are wrong, and are against these with their wrong views.)

I will also admit, that yes, I am nihilist. I think the number of people who die for religion is insane, and the way that religion still dictates laws even to people who don't believe is a shame. (Especially in the US, seperation of church and state my ass! Sorry, I'm a little... annoyed... about this hypocracy.) I do think if people stopped having a crutch to lean on, the world would be a better and more tolerant place. But that's starting to go into another topic...
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Posted 7/11/11

dunno001 wrote:
Some people try saying that atheists are actively against god, that's antitheism. (Little tidbit, especially for note to an earlier post: you can not be both atheist and antitheist. Being antitheist requires the acknowledgment of a god, or the concept of such, to be against. An atheist does not believe in such, and thus has nothing to go against.) Others may say that atheists are against religion; that's nihilism. An atheist CAN also be a nihilist, but this is not always the case. (If you try to say you don't believe religion exists, then the word for that is delusional.) Likewise, being nihilist does not mean you are atheist; agnostic is actually the most common type of nihilism. (An agnostic nihilist does believe in god(s), but believes that religions' interpretations are wrong, and are against these with their wrong views.)

I will also admit, that yes, I am nihilist. I think the number of people who die for religion is insane, and the way that religion still dictates laws even to people who don't believe is a shame. (Especially in the US, seperation of church and state my ass! Sorry, I'm a little... annoyed... about this hypocracy.) I do think if people stopped having a crutch to lean on, the world would be a better and more tolerant place. But that's starting to go into another topic...


Bear in mind, though, that the popular connotation of anti-theist has changed due to linguistic evolution. Nowadays it is most commonly identified as 'anti-religion'. In that sense an atheist may be an anti-theist. Nihilism stands for lack of belief of any sort. A nihilist need not be opposed to religion. A nihilist may support anything from religion through genocide to social improvement. Anything. Nihilism, as commonly understood, is a rejection of values, preferable states of affairs and purpose (a mixture of moral and teleological nihilism). There is plenty of similarity between agnosticism and nihilism in certain respects, but the definition of agnosticism focuses on knowledge, a lack of 'gnosis' - knowledge, whereas nihilism concentrates on a lack of belief. Nihilism has an element of radical scepticism to it which can be seen in certain forms of agnosticism (the main issue being the reliability and testability of evidence). A nihilist does not believe. God, as understood by the majority if, indeed, not all of our species is an artificial, human construct. As a result, the possibility that a greatly powerful being might exist is not, entirely, ruled out, but the being can have no moral authority, unlike the gods we imagine.

I, too, would prefer a world without religion.
Posted 7/12/11

DerfelCadarn wrote:


dunno001 wrote:
Some people try saying that atheists are actively against god, that's antitheism. (Little tidbit, especially for note to an earlier post: you can not be both atheist and antitheist. Being antitheist requires the acknowledgment of a god, or the concept of such, to be against. An atheist does not believe in such, and thus has nothing to go against.) Others may say that atheists are against religion; that's nihilism. An atheist CAN also be a nihilist, but this is not always the case. (If you try to say you don't believe religion exists, then the word for that is delusional.) Likewise, being nihilist does not mean you are atheist; agnostic is actually the most common type of nihilism. (An agnostic nihilist does believe in god(s), but believes that religions' interpretations are wrong, and are against these with their wrong views.)

I will also admit, that yes, I am nihilist. I think the number of people who die for religion is insane, and the way that religion still dictates laws even to people who don't believe is a shame. (Especially in the US, seperation of church and state my ass! Sorry, I'm a little... annoyed... about this hypocracy.) I do think if people stopped having a crutch to lean on, the world would be a better and more tolerant place. But that's starting to go into another topic...


Bear in mind, though, that the popular connotation of anti-theist has changed due to linguistic evolution. Nowadays it is most commonly identified as 'anti-religion'. In that sense an atheist may be an anti-theist. Nihilism stands for lack of belief of any sort. A nihilist need not be opposed to religion. A nihilist may support anything from religion through genocide to social improvement. Anything. Nihilism, as commonly understood, is a rejection of values, preferable states of affairs and purpose (a mixture of moral and teleological nihilism). There is plenty of similarity between agnosticism and nihilism in certain respects, but the definition of agnosticism focuses on knowledge, a lack of 'gnosis' - knowledge, whereas nihilism concentrates on a lack of belief. Nihilism has an element of radical scepticism to it which can be seen in certain forms of agnosticism (the main issue being the reliability and testability of evidence). A nihilist does not believe. God, as understood by the majority if, indeed, not all of our species is an artificial, human construct. As a result, the possibility that a greatly powerful being might exist is not, entirely, ruled out, but the being can have no moral authority, unlike the gods we imagine.

I, too, would prefer a world without religion.


We could use instead just a simple handbook of life's dos and don'ts, plus a rather heady disclaimer.
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Posted 7/12/11

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


Nedesukawaii wrote:


spensaur wrote:

Wrong.

Atheism is not believing in anything what so ever, which ever god that person chooses, you do not believe in it. Not you per-say, because you don't even know what it means. But yes, atheism would be denying the existence of the Volcano God as well. Not just one single god. What a shame.


The pocky eater is correct. Atheism is the position that deities(of any kind) do not exist. No wonder your arguments against religion were so weak sir (Darkphoenix). You don't even understand what being an atheist means. Weak atheism which refers to all the other types of non-theism.



'Atheism is not believing in a god or gods...
If some one worships a volcano I can see it... So I know its real... It does not mean I think its a God but I can not be a atheist to something that is real. Like a valcano. Just like if you worship a actor, I can not be an atheist to that actor because he is a real person. I might not believ him to be a god, but I can not say that he is not real do to lack of evidence. For there is evidence of him being a real.

'PS.. Pocky is wrong Like I have pointed out Christians are atheist to other Gods and religion. they only believe there god to be real, not eny of the other, and if thats the case than CHristians are atheist wen it comes to Odin, Radin, or any other god other than there own.'

'I understand fully what an atheist is, I don't think you understand the true meaning bahind it. ' For one can have religion and still be an atheist. One can believe in a God or gods, yet still be atheist wen it comes to other Gods. '

'LIke most Religous kids you try to group people into well do to lack of a better word groups, before you even taken the time to understand what words really mean.'

I try to explain to you that atheist in it self Is lack of belief in a god or Gods, mostly do to lack of evidence for that god.
'back to the volcano we can see the volcano we know what it does, as long as we do not give it other abilities I have no angest agenst someone that wishis to call it a god. Hell I find it more logical to worship sun as if it was a god than some thing that has no form nore eny evidence for it. And It was the sun that created are planet, and helped us to grow.






Let's break the word down. a theism. a=not theism=theology. atheism=against theology
Posted 7/12/11

branondorf wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


Nedesukawaii wrote:


spensaur wrote:

Wrong.

Atheism is not believing in anything what so ever, which ever god that person chooses, you do not believe in it. Not you per-say, because you don't even know what it means. But yes, atheism would be denying the existence of the Volcano God as well. Not just one single god. What a shame.


The pocky eater is correct. Atheism is the position that deities(of any kind) do not exist. No wonder your arguments against religion were so weak sir (Darkphoenix). You don't even understand what being an atheist means. Weak atheism which refers to all the other types of non-theism.



'Atheism is not believing in a god or gods...
If some one worships a volcano I can see it... So I know its real... It does not mean I think its a God but I can not be a atheist to something that is real. Like a valcano. Just like if you worship a actor, I can not be an atheist to that actor because he is a real person. I might not believ him to be a god, but I can not say that he is not real do to lack of evidence. For there is evidence of him being a real.

'PS.. Pocky is wrong Like I have pointed out Christians are atheist to other Gods and religion. they only believe there god to be real, not eny of the other, and if thats the case than CHristians are atheist wen it comes to Odin, Radin, or any other god other than there own.'

'I understand fully what an atheist is, I don't think you understand the true meaning bahind it. ' For one can have religion and still be an atheist. One can believe in a God or gods, yet still be atheist wen it comes to other Gods. '

'LIke most Religous kids you try to group people into well do to lack of a better word groups, before you even taken the time to understand what words really mean.'

I try to explain to you that atheist in it self Is lack of belief in a god or Gods, mostly do to lack of evidence for that god.
'back to the volcano we can see the volcano we know what it does, as long as we do not give it other abilities I have no angest agenst someone that wishis to call it a god. Hell I find it more logical to worship sun as if it was a god than some thing that has no form nore eny evidence for it. And It was the sun that created are planet, and helped us to grow.






Let's break the word down. a theism. a=not theism=theology. atheism=against theology


You're pretty funny. An atheist can have a neutral stance on theology, as in being neither for nor against it.

Everyone, don't feed this kid's trolling.
Posted 7/12/11 , edited 7/12/11

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Let's break the word down. a theism. a=not theism=theology. atheism=against theology
No. Theism and theology are categorically two different practices. The former is the belief system of religion, the latter is an academic study of just such system within human history and prehistory. That means a theist can have blind faith in sheer superstitions, whereas an atheist can still be a theologian without oneself believing the existence of deities. While all theists could just be claiming their false-positive patterns being true, without themselves able to prove their claims of just such agency being correct.

I said back in our little thought experiment, you're a hominid walking on the plains of Africa. Is it just the wind or a dangerous predator? What's the difference between those? Well, the wind is inanimate; the dangerous predator is an intentional agent. And I call this process agenticity. That is the tendency to infuse patterns with meaning, intention and agency, often invisible beings from the top down. This is an idea that we got from a fellow TEDster here, Dan Dennett, who talked about taking the intentional stance.

So it's a type of that expanded to explain, I think, a lot of different things, souls, spirits, ghosts, gods, demons, angels, aliens, intelligent designers, government conspiracists and all manner of invisible agents with power and intention, are believed to haunt our world and control our lives. I think it's the basis of animism and polythiesm and monotheism. It's the belief that aliens are somehow more advanced than us, more moral than us, and the narrative's always are that they're coming here to save us and rescue us from on high. The intelligent designer's always portrayed as this super intelligent, moral being that comes down to design life. Even the idea that government can rescue us. That's no longer the wave of the future. But that is, I think, a type of agenticity, the projecting somebody up there, big and powerful will come rescue us.(citation)
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Posted 7/30/11
I lean more towards natural balance of good and evil in the Earth.
Or karma.
No God, promising if you act like this you're soul is saved.
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