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What humans have is not instinct. It's reaction if you dive out of the way so you don't get hit by the car. Reaction, nothing more,nothing less.
And by the way: I know all this. We are not stronger than a bear, we can't fly like birds do, i know. But i told you: Knowledge is Power. We have the Knowledge. Humans invented many things so that they can fly, so that they can lift heavy things, etc etc. We did this thanks to our Knowledge.
No, diving of of the way of a car is instinct, its a survival instinct, fear is also a survival instinct, all animals have and use instinct, its a subconsious thing. Defenition of Instinct : An inborn pattern of behavior that is characteristic of a species and is often a response to specific environmental stimuli : Diving out of the way of a car.
And yeap, humans have invented lots of things, and that's due to evolution, when our jaw muscles loosened thus our cranium was allowed to expand, thus allowing our brain to evolve and expand further over a long period of time, thus giving us a higher intelligence and more advanced language abilities than any other animal. We didn't get our intelligence overnight, took millions of years. But that's all we have over other animals, were still failures in the other categories. And we learn just like most other animals learn through, observation, trial and error, and so on. We are animals, we've been animals for the last 2.2 million years, even though we were human, we are still animals.
Whatever.
I don't think so. I never will.
I know animals are great creatures and i really love them. But I still don't think that we are animals. We are human. A Human is a Human, not an animal. I don't have any arguments or explanations anymore but I still think the way I did in the beginning of this never-ending discussion.
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An animal.....yeah,what defines it? It is their instincts.
That's not true, in biological taxonomy, which you learned about in school apparently, animals are defined as multicellular, eukaryotic, heterotrophic organisms. We are made up of many cells, right? Those cells are eukaryotic, right? (I'm assuming you know what eukaryotic means since you "go to school") We need to eat to survive, which is what heterotrophic means, right? So since we do all of those things, then in biology we are classified as "animals."
If you don't think that we should be classified as animals in biology, then you either think that:
1. We are either plants, fungi, or single-celled organisms, since those are the only other domains/kingdoms of biological taxonomy that exist.
2. We are not living organisms and cannot be classified by biological taxonomy.
If you believe either of those, then obviously you haven't been paying attention in school even though you go there. Or they haven't taught you very well.
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What humans have is not instinct. It's reaction if you dive out of the way so you don't get hit by the car. Reaction, nothing more,nothing less.
And by the way: I know all this. We are not stronger than a bear, we can't fly like birds do, i know. But i told you: Knowledge is Power. We have the Knowledge. Humans invented many things so that they can fly, so that they can lift heavy things, etc etc. We did this thanks to our Knowledge.
No, diving of of the way of a car is instinct, its a survival instinct, fear is also a survival instinct, all animals have and use instinct, its a subconsious thing. Defenition of Instinct : An inborn pattern of behavior that is characteristic of a species and is often a response to specific environmental stimuli : Diving out of the way of a car.
And yeap, humans have invented lots of things, and that's due to evolution, when our jaw muscles loosened thus our cranium was allowed to expand, thus allowing our brain to evolve and expand further over a long period of time, thus giving us a higher intelligence and more advanced language abilities than any other animal. We didn't get our intelligence overnight, took millions of years. But that's all we have over other animals, were still failures in the other categories. And we learn just like most other animals learn through, observation, trial and error, and so on. We are animals, we've been animals for the last 2.2 million years, even though we were human, we are still animals.
Whatever.
I don't think so. I never will.
I know animals are great creatures and i really love them. But I still don't think that we are animals. We are human. A Human is a Human, not an animal. I don't have any arguments or explanations anymore but I still think the way I did in the beginning of this never-ending discussion.
It's as cuddlebuns says . Animals are defined as multicellular, eukaryotic, heterotrophic organisms. We are made up of more then one cell, Those cells are eukaryotic, We need to eat to survive, Any living thing that fits those conditions is an animal.
We are not plants, fungi, or single celled organisms, nor minerals (rocks), thus the only thing left for us to be is an animal. That's the truth, besides it's not like it's a big deal to be an animal anyway. Doesn't change who you are or anything. Your a human and a human is an animal, what's the problem with that ?
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Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide Allhailodin wrote:
For all of you people who for some reason seem to think that humans are not animals or that humans are "above" animals, well that's simply not true, and I'm tired of seeing retards who think that, so I'm going to prove that humans are animals and humans are not above animals for all of you people who seem to think that we aren't animals and we are above animals. And I'm also going to prove that we are also classified as apes.
Human Being :
Domain : Eukarya ---> Kingdom : Animilia ---> Phylum : Chordata ---> Class : Mammalia ---> Infraclass : Eutheria ---> Superorder : Euarchontoglires ---> Order : Primates ---> Suborder : Haplorrhini ( tarsiers, monekys and apes so yes we are classified as apes ) ---> Infraorder : Simiiformes ---> Parvorder : Catarrhini ---> Superfamily: Hominoidea ---> Family Hominidae ---> Subfamily : Homininae ---> Tribe : Hominini ---> Genus : Homo ---> Species : Homo sapiens sapiens.
And these are our closest relatives, the other members of the "Hominidae" family.
Chimpanzee :
Domain : Eukarya ---> Kingdom : Animilia ---> Phylum : Chordata ---> Class : Mammalia ---> Infraclass : Eutheria ---> Superorder : Euarchontoglires ---> Order : Primates ---> Suborder : Haplorrhini ( tarsiers, monekys and apes ) ---> Infraorder : Simiiformes ---> Parvorder : Catarrhini ---> Superfamily: Hominoidea ---> Family Hominidae ---> Subfamily : Homininae ---> Tribe : Hominini ---> Genus : Pan ---> Species : Pan troglodytes.
Gorilla :
Domain : Eukarya ---> Kingdom : Animilia ---> Phylum : Chordata ---> Class : Mammalia ---> Infraclass : Eutheria ---> Superorder : Euarchontoglires ---> Order : Primates ---> Suborder : Haplorrhini ( tarsiers, monekys and apes ) ---> Infraorder : Simiiformes ---> Parvorder : Catarrhini ---> Superfamily: Hominoidea ---> Family Hominidae ---> Subfamily : Homininae ---> Tribe : Gorillini ---> Genus : Gorilla ---> Species : Gorilla gorilla (western gorilla ).
Orangutans :
Domain : Eukarya ---> Kingdom : Animilia ---> Phylum : Chordata ---> Class : Mammalia ---> Infraclass : Eutheria ---> Superorder : Euarchontoglires ---> Order : Primates ---> Suborder : Haplorrhini ( tarsiers, monekys and apes ) ---> Infraorder : Simiiformes ---> Parvorder : Catarrhini ---> Superfamily: Hominoidea ---> Family Hominidae ---> Subfamily : Ponginae ---> Genus : Pongo ---> Species : Pongo pygmaeus.
So anyone who think that we are not animals is wrong.
How can you say that anyone who thinks that we are not animals is wrong?
You know,the ones who classified humans as apes were the humans themselves! So how can we know if it is true?
I don't think that we are animals. Because there is one big difference between animals and humans. Humans are able to think about things, they can make up their mind about things. Animals can't do that, can they? They act after their instincts. Humans can decide for themselves what is right and what is wrong. That makes the difference. And so we are not animals.
what you are saying is just the special skill/trait in our species; which is high intellect
yes we are the only species that can do that
but just because a whale can hold its breath for hours doesnt mean its not an animal
or that there are birds that can fly for months without stoping doesnt mean its not an animal
or that an ant can lift several times its weight, it is still an animal
so... we have one thing that the other animals dont have
havnt you stopped to think that the other animals have things we cant do?
we are animals
we have high intellect because the smartest humans survived better, and so they passed on thier intellect to thier children
and the dumb ones died out, because they didnt have what was needed to survive.
so basicly we evolved to become smarter, its called natural selection
Okay,okay. I know that most of the animals can do things we can't do. And that's how it should be.
But humans took the animals as role models and invented many things and now we can do things that they can do too.
And there are no "dumb" humans. Every human has his opinion and every human thinks in a different way.
But animals are almost the same. Because they have their instincts. If we are animals, where are our instincts??
all the humans who lived of instincts dies thousands of years ago
think of it this way, if you we're born on instincts as a human thousands of years ago
you would have a hard time making tools and die, without giving birth to any children
and if you lived of intellect, you could build useful tools and you survived realy well
and you gave birth to many children who lived of intellect
have you ever wondered why your so similar to your parents?
soon all the humans that lived of instincts died and didnt pass on thier genetic code
and there wouldnt be any left, only humans who lived of intellect
becasue they needed to build tools to survive
this is the way evolution works
Question: How do you know that there were people who lived of instincts if they died out many thousand years ago o.0 ??
Besides- I am so similar to my parents because we all have DNA. That's how it works.
[Lol, i can see this discussion leads to nothing xD I will never ever think that we are animals]
i know because, thousands of years ago humans started using tools
we had to evolve to have the ability to make them
i ask you a question, what defines an animal?
it is not instincts,
sientists invented the word, animalia, written short as animal
it is just a group sientists made to classify living things
anything that respires(intakes oxygen), eats, reproduces and moves
that is the definition of an animal
it has nothing to do with instincts or your brain or your skills
And? "Humans started using tools" doesn't explain how you can even know that there really were people who lived of instincts?
An animal.....yeah,what defines it? It is their instincts. They are animals because they act after their instincts. For example, tiger babys. They know who their mother is from the moment they were born. They know exactly how to behave in special situations from the day they were born. Because of their instincts.
We don't know anything when we are born. We have to learn everything. Yes, i know the tiger babys have to learn many things too but because of their instincts they know many things from the beginning.
Whatever.
I still won't believe that. I never will. I don't even have an explanation for it but I know it anyway. That Humans aren't Animals.
Being an animal doesnt have anything to do with instincts, it doesnt have to do with how intelligent you are.
An animal is simply anything that moves, breathes, eats, and reproduces.
theres nothing else to being an animal
dont take being called an animal an insult, all it is is saying that you move, beathe, eat and reproduce
and we do
Thats the definition of an animal, the meaning of being an animal. It says it in the dictionary.
and thats how the word was made, its just a word, and thats its true definition.
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Daniel9878 wrote:
Luna681993 wrote:
Daniel9878 wrote:
Luna681993 wrote:
Daniel9878 wrote:
Luna681993 wrote:
Daniel9878 wrote:
Luna681993 wrote:
Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide Allhailodin wrote:
For all of you people who for some reason seem to think that humans are not animals or that humans are "above" animals, well that's simply not true, and I'm tired of seeing retards who think that, so I'm going to prove that humans are animals and humans are not above animals for all of you people who seem to think that we aren't animals and we are above animals. And I'm also going to prove that we are also classified as apes.
Human Being :
Domain : Eukarya ---> Kingdom : Animilia ---> Phylum : Chordata ---> Class : Mammalia ---> Infraclass : Eutheria ---> Superorder : Euarchontoglires ---> Order : Primates ---> Suborder : Haplorrhini ( tarsiers, monekys and apes so yes we are classified as apes ) ---> Infraorder : Simiiformes ---> Parvorder : Catarrhini ---> Superfamily: Hominoidea ---> Family Hominidae ---> Subfamily : Homininae ---> Tribe : Hominini ---> Genus : Homo ---> Species : Homo sapiens sapiens.
And these are our closest relatives, the other members of the "Hominidae" family.
Chimpanzee :
Domain : Eukarya ---> Kingdom : Animilia ---> Phylum : Chordata ---> Class : Mammalia ---> Infraclass : Eutheria ---> Superorder : Euarchontoglires ---> Order : Primates ---> Suborder : Haplorrhini ( tarsiers, monekys and apes ) ---> Infraorder : Simiiformes ---> Parvorder : Catarrhini ---> Superfamily: Hominoidea ---> Family Hominidae ---> Subfamily : Homininae ---> Tribe : Hominini ---> Genus : Pan ---> Species : Pan troglodytes.
Gorilla :
Domain : Eukarya ---> Kingdom : Animilia ---> Phylum : Chordata ---> Class : Mammalia ---> Infraclass : Eutheria ---> Superorder : Euarchontoglires ---> Order : Primates ---> Suborder : Haplorrhini ( tarsiers, monekys and apes ) ---> Infraorder : Simiiformes ---> Parvorder : Catarrhini ---> Superfamily: Hominoidea ---> Family Hominidae ---> Subfamily : Homininae ---> Tribe : Gorillini ---> Genus : Gorilla ---> Species : Gorilla gorilla (western gorilla ).
Orangutans :
Domain : Eukarya ---> Kingdom : Animilia ---> Phylum : Chordata ---> Class : Mammalia ---> Infraclass : Eutheria ---> Superorder : Euarchontoglires ---> Order : Primates ---> Suborder : Haplorrhini ( tarsiers, monekys and apes ) ---> Infraorder : Simiiformes ---> Parvorder : Catarrhini ---> Superfamily: Hominoidea ---> Family Hominidae ---> Subfamily : Ponginae ---> Genus : Pongo ---> Species : Pongo pygmaeus.
So anyone who think that we are not animals is wrong.
How can you say that anyone who thinks that we are not animals is wrong?
You know,the ones who classified humans as apes were the humans themselves! So how can we know if it is true?
I don't think that we are animals. Because there is one big difference between animals and humans. Humans are able to think about things, they can make up their mind about things. Animals can't do that, can they? They act after their instincts. Humans can decide for themselves what is right and what is wrong. That makes the difference. And so we are not animals.
what you are saying is just the special skill/trait in our species; which is high intellect
yes we are the only species that can do that
but just because a whale can hold its breath for hours doesnt mean its not an animal
or that there are birds that can fly for months without stoping doesnt mean its not an animal
or that an ant can lift several times its weight, it is still an animal
so... we have one thing that the other animals dont have
havnt you stopped to think that the other animals have things we cant do?
we are animals
we have high intellect because the smartest humans survived better, and so they passed on thier intellect to thier children
and the dumb ones died out, because they didnt have what was needed to survive.
so basicly we evolved to become smarter, its called natural selection
Okay,okay. I know that most of the animals can do things we can't do. And that's how it should be.
But humans took the animals as role models and invented many things and now we can do things that they can do too.
And there are no "dumb" humans. Every human has his opinion and every human thinks in a different way.
But animals are almost the same. Because they have their instincts. If we are animals, where are our instincts??
all the humans who lived of instincts dies thousands of years ago
think of it this way, if you we're born on instincts as a human thousands of years ago
you would have a hard time making tools and die, without giving birth to any children
and if you lived of intellect, you could build useful tools and you survived realy well
and you gave birth to many children who lived of intellect
have you ever wondered why your so similar to your parents?
soon all the humans that lived of instincts died and didnt pass on thier genetic code
and there wouldnt be any left, only humans who lived of intellect
becasue they needed to build tools to survive
this is the way evolution works
Question: How do you know that there were people who lived of instincts if they died out many thousand years ago o.0 ??
Besides- I am so similar to my parents because we all have DNA. That's how it works.
[Lol, i can see this discussion leads to nothing xD I will never ever think that we are animals]
i know because, thousands of years ago humans started using tools
we had to evolve to have the ability to make them
i ask you a question, what defines an animal?
it is not instincts,
sientists invented the word, animalia, written short as animal
it is just a group sientists made to classify living things
anything that respires(intakes oxygen), eats, reproduces and moves
that is the definition of an animal
it has nothing to do with instincts or your brain or your skills
And? "Humans started using tools" doesn't explain how you can even know that there really were people who lived of instincts?
An animal.....yeah,what defines it? It is their instincts. They are animals because they act after their instincts. For example, tiger babys. They know who their mother is from the moment they were born. They know exactly how to behave in special situations from the day they were born. Because of their instincts.
We don't know anything when we are born. We have to learn everything. Yes, i know the tiger babys have to learn many things too but because of their instincts they know many things from the beginning.
Whatever.
I still won't believe that. I never will. I don't even have an explanation for it but I know it anyway. That Humans aren't Animals.
Being an animal doesnt have anything to do with instincts, it doesnt have to do with how intelligent you are.
An animal is simply anything that moves, breathes, eats, and reproduces.
theres nothing else to being an animal
dont take being called an animal an insult, all it is is saying that you move, beathe, eat and reproduce
and we do
Thats the definition of an animal, the meaning of being an animal. It says it in the dictionary.
and thats how the word was made, its just a word, and thats its true definition.
They rather you call them MUD... Because to them God made them from Mud.
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Yes, didn't we already know this?
But am i allowed to say that humans evolved from apes? Or was that now what the theory of evolution was about? My mind kind of just feels wiped. Or are they just our ancestors from very long ago? I'm not sure if i believe this, and i wonder what the evidence of this being true is. I will believe it once i find out : ) Just the similarities make it a believable theory IMO, i haven't learnt enough about it myself.
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Yes, didn't we already know this?
If you read through the thread, you'd see that a fair amount of people didn't, and they refuse to accept it because they don't think we're living creatures, or they think we're plants or fungi or single-celled organisms.
But am i allowed to say that humans evolved from apes? Or was that now what the theory of evolution was about? My mind kind of just feels wiped. Or are they just our ancestors from very long ago? I'm not sure if i believe this, and i wonder what the evidence of this being true is. I will believe it once i find out : ) Just the similarities make it a believable theory IMO, i haven't learnt enough about it myself.
We're in the order Primate, so we must have evolved from some other type of ape. If you're reffering to currently living apes, we didn't evolve from any of them, we share a common ancestor with chimps that is no longer living today (as far as we know).
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An animal.....yeah,what defines it? It is their instincts.
That's not true, in biological taxonomy, which you learned about in school apparently, animals are defined as multicellular, eukaryotic, heterotrophic organisms. We are made up of many cells, right? Those cells are eukaryotic, right? (I'm assuming you know what eukaryotic means since you "go to school") We need to eat to survive, which is what heterotrophic means, right? So since we do all of those things, then in biology we are classified as "animals."
If you don't think that we should be classified as animals in biology, then you either think that:
1. We are either plants, fungi, or single-celled organisms, since those are the only other domains/kingdoms of biological taxonomy that exist.
2. We are not living organisms and cannot be classified by biological taxonomy.
If you believe either of those, then obviously you haven't been paying attention in school even though you go there. Or they haven't taught you very well.
The human classified himself as an "animal". That has nothing to do with this damn biology. The humans themselves say this. But how do we know it is true? How? How? How? Only God knows the truth. And he made us humans, not animals. Humans!
And i don't think we are #1 or #2. I think humans are humans. Just Humans. Nothing More,nothing Less. Humans.
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Luna681993 wrote:
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What humans have is not instinct. It's reaction if you dive out of the way so you don't get hit by the car. Reaction, nothing more,nothing less.
And by the way: I know all this. We are not stronger than a bear, we can't fly like birds do, i know. But i told you: Knowledge is Power. We have the Knowledge. Humans invented many things so that they can fly, so that they can lift heavy things, etc etc. We did this thanks to our Knowledge.
No, diving of of the way of a car is instinct, its a survival instinct, fear is also a survival instinct, all animals have and use instinct, its a subconsious thing. Defenition of Instinct : An inborn pattern of behavior that is characteristic of a species and is often a response to specific environmental stimuli : Diving out of the way of a car.
And yeap, humans have invented lots of things, and that's due to evolution, when our jaw muscles loosened thus our cranium was allowed to expand, thus allowing our brain to evolve and expand further over a long period of time, thus giving us a higher intelligence and more advanced language abilities than any other animal. We didn't get our intelligence overnight, took millions of years. But that's all we have over other animals, were still failures in the other categories. And we learn just like most other animals learn through, observation, trial and error, and so on. We are animals, we've been animals for the last 2.2 million years, even though we were human, we are still animals.
Whatever.
I don't think so. I never will.
I know animals are great creatures and i really love them. But I still don't think that we are animals. We are human. A Human is a Human, not an animal. I don't have any arguments or explanations anymore but I still think the way I did in the beginning of this never-ending discussion.
It's as cuddlebuns says . Animals are defined as multicellular, eukaryotic, heterotrophic organisms. We are made up of more then one cell, Those cells are eukaryotic, We need to eat to survive, Any living thing that fits those conditions is an animal.
We are not plants, fungi, or single celled organisms, nor minerals (rocks), thus the only thing left for us to be is an animal. That's the truth, besides it's not like it's a big deal to be an animal anyway. Doesn't change who you are or anything. Your a human and a human is an animal, what's the problem with that ?
My way of thinking is the problem. I don't think so. It's not because I can't deal with it. I could deal with it. But I don't believe it. And so i won't deal with it. Humans are Humans.
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Daniel9878 wrote:
Luna681993 wrote:
Daniel9878 wrote:
Luna681993 wrote:
Daniel9878 wrote:
Luna681993 wrote:
Daniel9878 wrote:
Luna681993 wrote:
Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide Allhailodin wrote:
For all of you people who for some reason seem to think that humans are not animals or that humans are "above" animals, well that's simply not true, and I'm tired of seeing retards who think that, so I'm going to prove that humans are animals and humans are not above animals for all of you people who seem to think that we aren't animals and we are above animals. And I'm also going to prove that we are also classified as apes.
Human Being :
Domain : Eukarya ---> Kingdom : Animilia ---> Phylum : Chordata ---> Class : Mammalia ---> Infraclass : Eutheria ---> Superorder : Euarchontoglires ---> Order : Primates ---> Suborder : Haplorrhini ( tarsiers, monekys and apes so yes we are classified as apes ) ---> Infraorder : Simiiformes ---> Parvorder : Catarrhini ---> Superfamily: Hominoidea ---> Family Hominidae ---> Subfamily : Homininae ---> Tribe : Hominini ---> Genus : Homo ---> Species : Homo sapiens sapiens.
And these are our closest relatives, the other members of the "Hominidae" family.
Chimpanzee :
Domain : Eukarya ---> Kingdom : Animilia ---> Phylum : Chordata ---> Class : Mammalia ---> Infraclass : Eutheria ---> Superorder : Euarchontoglires ---> Order : Primates ---> Suborder : Haplorrhini ( tarsiers, monekys and apes ) ---> Infraorder : Simiiformes ---> Parvorder : Catarrhini ---> Superfamily: Hominoidea ---> Family Hominidae ---> Subfamily : Homininae ---> Tribe : Hominini ---> Genus : Pan ---> Species : Pan troglodytes.
Gorilla :
Domain : Eukarya ---> Kingdom : Animilia ---> Phylum : Chordata ---> Class : Mammalia ---> Infraclass : Eutheria ---> Superorder : Euarchontoglires ---> Order : Primates ---> Suborder : Haplorrhini ( tarsiers, monekys and apes ) ---> Infraorder : Simiiformes ---> Parvorder : Catarrhini ---> Superfamily: Hominoidea ---> Family Hominidae ---> Subfamily : Homininae ---> Tribe : Gorillini ---> Genus : Gorilla ---> Species : Gorilla gorilla (western gorilla ).
Orangutans :
Domain : Eukarya ---> Kingdom : Animilia ---> Phylum : Chordata ---> Class : Mammalia ---> Infraclass : Eutheria ---> Superorder : Euarchontoglires ---> Order : Primates ---> Suborder : Haplorrhini ( tarsiers, monekys and apes ) ---> Infraorder : Simiiformes ---> Parvorder : Catarrhini ---> Superfamily: Hominoidea ---> Family Hominidae ---> Subfamily : Ponginae ---> Genus : Pongo ---> Species : Pongo pygmaeus.
So anyone who think that we are not animals is wrong.
How can you say that anyone who thinks that we are not animals is wrong?
You know,the ones who classified humans as apes were the humans themselves! So how can we know if it is true?
I don't think that we are animals. Because there is one big difference between animals and humans. Humans are able to think about things, they can make up their mind about things. Animals can't do that, can they? They act after their instincts. Humans can decide for themselves what is right and what is wrong. That makes the difference. And so we are not animals.
what you are saying is just the special skill/trait in our species; which is high intellect
yes we are the only species that can do that
but just because a whale can hold its breath for hours doesnt mean its not an animal
or that there are birds that can fly for months without stoping doesnt mean its not an animal
or that an ant can lift several times its weight, it is still an animal
so... we have one thing that the other animals dont have
havnt you stopped to think that the other animals have things we cant do?
we are animals
we have high intellect because the smartest humans survived better, and so they passed on thier intellect to thier children
and the dumb ones died out, because they didnt have what was needed to survive.
so basicly we evolved to become smarter, its called natural selection
Okay,okay. I know that most of the animals can do things we can't do. And that's how it should be.
But humans took the animals as role models and invented many things and now we can do things that they can do too.
And there are no "dumb" humans. Every human has his opinion and every human thinks in a different way.
But animals are almost the same. Because they have their instincts. If we are animals, where are our instincts??
all the humans who lived of instincts dies thousands of years ago
think of it this way, if you we're born on instincts as a human thousands of years ago
you would have a hard time making tools and die, without giving birth to any children
and if you lived of intellect, you could build useful tools and you survived realy well
and you gave birth to many children who lived of intellect
have you ever wondered why your so similar to your parents?
soon all the humans that lived of instincts died and didnt pass on thier genetic code
and there wouldnt be any left, only humans who lived of intellect
becasue they needed to build tools to survive
this is the way evolution works
Question: How do you know that there were people who lived of instincts if they died out many thousand years ago o.0 ??
Besides- I am so similar to my parents because we all have DNA. That's how it works.
[Lol, i can see this discussion leads to nothing xD I will never ever think that we are animals]
i know because, thousands of years ago humans started using tools
we had to evolve to have the ability to make them
i ask you a question, what defines an animal?
it is not instincts,
sientists invented the word, animalia, written short as animal
it is just a group sientists made to classify living things
anything that respires(intakes oxygen), eats, reproduces and moves
that is the definition of an animal
it has nothing to do with instincts or your brain or your skills
And? "Humans started using tools" doesn't explain how you can even know that there really were people who lived of instincts?
An animal.....yeah,what defines it? It is their instincts. They are animals because they act after their instincts. For example, tiger babys. They know who their mother is from the moment they were born. They know exactly how to behave in special situations from the day they were born. Because of their instincts.
We don't know anything when we are born. We have to learn everything. Yes, i know the tiger babys have to learn many things too but because of their instincts they know many things from the beginning.
Whatever.
I still won't believe that. I never will. I don't even have an explanation for it but I know it anyway. That Humans aren't Animals.
Being an animal doesnt have anything to do with instincts, it doesnt have to do with how intelligent you are.
An animal is simply anything that moves, breathes, eats, and reproduces.
theres nothing else to being an animal
dont take being called an animal an insult, all it is is saying that you move, beathe, eat and reproduce
and we do
Thats the definition of an animal, the meaning of being an animal. It says it in the dictionary.
and thats how the word was made, its just a word, and thats its true definition.
I don't care what the definition of an animal is!! It is what it is. And we are what we are. And we are Humans. And a Human is a Human.
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For all of you people who for some reason seem to think that humans are not animals or that humans are "above" animals, well that's simply not true, and I'm tired of seeing retards who think that, so I'm going to prove that humans are animals and humans are not above animals for all of you people who seem to think that we aren't animals and we are above animals. And I'm also going to prove that we are also classified as apes.
Human Being :
Domain : Eukarya ---> Kingdom : Animilia ---> Phylum : Chordata ---> Class : Mammalia ---> Infraclass : Eutheria ---> Superorder : Euarchontoglires ---> Order : Primates ---> Suborder : Haplorrhini ( tarsiers, monekys and apes so yes we are classified as apes ) ---> Infraorder : Simiiformes ---> Parvorder : Catarrhini ---> Superfamily: Hominoidea ---> Family Hominidae ---> Subfamily : Homininae ---> Tribe : Hominini ---> Genus : Homo ---> Species : Homo sapiens sapiens.
And these are our closest relatives, the other members of the "Hominidae" family.
Chimpanzee :
Domain : Eukarya ---> Kingdom : Animilia ---> Phylum : Chordata ---> Class : Mammalia ---> Infraclass : Eutheria ---> Superorder : Euarchontoglires ---> Order : Primates ---> Suborder : Haplorrhini ( tarsiers, monekys and apes ) ---> Infraorder : Simiiformes ---> Parvorder : Catarrhini ---> Superfamily: Hominoidea ---> Family Hominidae ---> Subfamily : Homininae ---> Tribe : Hominini ---> Genus : Pan ---> Species : Pan troglodytes.
Gorilla :
Domain : Eukarya ---> Kingdom : Animilia ---> Phylum : Chordata ---> Class : Mammalia ---> Infraclass : Eutheria ---> Superorder : Euarchontoglires ---> Order : Primates ---> Suborder : Haplorrhini ( tarsiers, monekys and apes ) ---> Infraorder : Simiiformes ---> Parvorder : Catarrhini ---> Superfamily: Hominoidea ---> Family Hominidae ---> Subfamily : Homininae ---> Tribe : Gorillini ---> Genus : Gorilla ---> Species : Gorilla gorilla (western gorilla ).
Orangutans :
Domain : Eukarya ---> Kingdom : Animilia ---> Phylum : Chordata ---> Class : Mammalia ---> Infraclass : Eutheria ---> Superorder : Euarchontoglires ---> Order : Primates ---> Suborder : Haplorrhini ( tarsiers, monekys and apes ) ---> Infraorder : Simiiformes ---> Parvorder : Catarrhini ---> Superfamily: Hominoidea ---> Family Hominidae ---> Subfamily : Ponginae ---> Genus : Pongo ---> Species : Pongo pygmaeus.
So anyone who think that we are not animals is wrong.
How can you say that anyone who thinks that we are not animals is wrong?
You know,the ones who classified humans as apes were the humans themselves! So how can we know if it is true?
I don't think that we are animals. Because there is one big difference between animals and humans. Humans are able to think about things, they can make up their mind about things. Animals can't do that, can they? They act after their instincts. Humans can decide for themselves what is right and what is wrong. That makes the difference. And so we are not animals.
what you are saying is just the special skill/trait in our species; which is high intellect
yes we are the only species that can do that
but just because a whale can hold its breath for hours doesnt mean its not an animal
or that there are birds that can fly for months without stoping doesnt mean its not an animal
or that an ant can lift several times its weight, it is still an animal
so... we have one thing that the other animals dont have
havnt you stopped to think that the other animals have things we cant do?
we are animals
we have high intellect because the smartest humans survived better, and so they passed on thier intellect to thier children
and the dumb ones died out, because they didnt have what was needed to survive.
so basicly we evolved to become smarter, its called natural selection
Okay,okay. I know that most of the animals can do things we can't do. And that's how it should be.
But humans took the animals as role models and invented many things and now we can do things that they can do too.
And there are no "dumb" humans. Every human has his opinion and every human thinks in a different way.
But animals are almost the same. Because they have their instincts. If we are animals, where are our instincts??
all the humans who lived of instincts dies thousands of years ago
think of it this way, if you we're born on instincts as a human thousands of years ago
you would have a hard time making tools and die, without giving birth to any children
and if you lived of intellect, you could build useful tools and you survived realy well
and you gave birth to many children who lived of intellect
have you ever wondered why your so similar to your parents?
soon all the humans that lived of instincts died and didnt pass on thier genetic code
and there wouldnt be any left, only humans who lived of intellect
becasue they needed to build tools to survive
this is the way evolution works
Question: How do you know that there were people who lived of instincts if they died out many thousand years ago o.0 ??
Besides- I am so similar to my parents because we all have DNA. That's how it works.
[Lol, i can see this discussion leads to nothing xD I will never ever think that we are animals]
i know because, thousands of years ago humans started using tools
we had to evolve to have the ability to make them
i ask you a question, what defines an animal?
it is not instincts,
sientists invented the word, animalia, written short as animal
it is just a group sientists made to classify living things
anything that respires(intakes oxygen), eats, reproduces and moves
that is the definition of an animal
it has nothing to do with instincts or your brain or your skills
And? "Humans started using tools" doesn't explain how you can even know that there really were people who lived of instincts?
An animal.....yeah,what defines it? It is their instincts. They are animals because they act after their instincts. For example, tiger babys. They know who their mother is from the moment they were born. They know exactly how to behave in special situations from the day they were born. Because of their instincts.
We don't know anything when we are born. We have to learn everything. Yes, i know the tiger babys have to learn many things too but because of their instincts they know many things from the beginning.
Whatever.
I still won't believe that. I never will. I don't even have an explanation for it but I know it anyway. That Humans aren't Animals.
Being an animal doesnt have anything to do with instincts, it doesnt have to do with how intelligent you are.
An animal is simply anything that moves, breathes, eats, and reproduces.
theres nothing else to being an animal
dont take being called an animal an insult, all it is is saying that you move, beathe, eat and reproduce
and we do
Thats the definition of an animal, the meaning of being an animal. It says it in the dictionary.
and thats how the word was made, its just a word, and thats its true definition.
I don't care what the definition of an animal is!! It is what it is. And we are what we are. And we are Humans. And a Human is a Human.
A grasshopper is a grasshopper. A grasshopper is also an insect.
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What humans have is not instinct. It's reaction if you dive out of the way so you don't get hit by the car. Reaction, nothing more,nothing less.
And by the way: I know all this. We are not stronger than a bear, we can't fly like birds do, i know. But i told you: Knowledge is Power. We have the Knowledge. Humans invented many things so that they can fly, so that they can lift heavy things, etc etc. We did this thanks to our Knowledge.
No, diving of of the way of a car is instinct, its a survival instinct, fear is also a survival instinct, all animals have and use instinct, its a subconsious thing. Defenition of Instinct : An inborn pattern of behavior that is characteristic of a species and is often a response to specific environmental stimuli : Diving out of the way of a car.
And yeap, humans have invented lots of things, and that's due to evolution, when our jaw muscles loosened thus our cranium was allowed to expand, thus allowing our brain to evolve and expand further over a long period of time, thus giving us a higher intelligence and more advanced language abilities than any other animal. We didn't get our intelligence overnight, took millions of years. But that's all we have over other animals, were still failures in the other categories. And we learn just like most other animals learn through, observation, trial and error, and so on. We are animals, we've been animals for the last 2.2 million years, even though we were human, we are still animals.
Whatever.
I don't think so. I never will.
I know animals are great creatures and i really love them. But I still don't think that we are animals. We are human. A Human is a Human, not an animal. I don't have any arguments or explanations anymore but I still think the way I did in the beginning of this never-ending discussion.
It's as cuddlebuns says . Animals are defined as multicellular, eukaryotic, heterotrophic organisms. We are made up of more then one cell, Those cells are eukaryotic, We need to eat to survive, Any living thing that fits those conditions is an animal.
We are not plants, fungi, or single celled organisms, nor minerals (rocks), thus the only thing left for us to be is an animal. That's the truth, besides it's not like it's a big deal to be an animal anyway. Doesn't change who you are or anything. Your a human and a human is an animal, what's the problem with that ?
My way of thinking is the problem. I don't think so. It's not because I can't deal with it. I could deal with it. But I don't believe it. And so i won't deal with it. Humans are Humans.
Doesn't matter if you believe it or not, the reality is that humans are animals and apes. You can ignorantly deny it all you want, but that doesn't mean it's going to change anything, humans are animals, humans are apes, that is reality. Continuing to deny it when faced with facts that prove what your saying is wrong does nothing but make you ignorant.
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The human classified himself as an "animal". That has nothing to do with this damn biology.
This is a great example of a stupid comment. It's like saying "these chemicals in my soda have nothing to do with chemistry, because soda is man-made." I really don't like to use the word "stupid" because I like to think that most people are misinformed about certain things for a good reason, but there's really no other word that can describe a comment like that, considering that you "go to school."
If you actually knew anything about biology, like you said you do, you'd know that taxonomy, which is the classification of all living things, is a huge part of it.
The humans themselves say this. But how do we know it is true? How? How? How? Only God knows the truth. And he made us humans, not animals. Humans!
We know we are animals because we, humans, made up the word "animal" and gave it a definition, and we, humans, fit into that definition.
If God only knows the truth, then how can you be so certain that we're not animals? How can you be so certain that you know anything if God is the only one who knows anything?
And i don't think we are #1 or #2. I think humans are humans. Just Humans. Nothing More,nothing Less. Humans.
So what exactly is a human? What are we made of? How do we stay alive? Are we even alive?
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