Post Reply Deadliest Warrior: Who would win in a one on one fight?
Posted 5/2/09
I choose it depends even though I favor the samurai because honestly skill, terrain, and weapons are all a important factor. There were samurai of varying skills and weaponary. Same goes with the other 3.




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Posted 5/4/09
Skill vs skill alone? I would have to say Samurai. When I think "one on one",pirates are out since they normally fight in groups like wolves in a way, right?

Ninja, the main thing they have going for them is the element of surprise. The Spartans might come close though.
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Posted 5/5/09
I choose Samurai.... cause they have a fast and sharp katana..... They are also a skilled swordsmanship..... Ninja is an assasination type where it will get disadvantage in a one on one battle.... Though I think Samurai would be disadvantage by terrain cause I think asi sabaki is one of their basic technique (not always or maybe just in my practice only)
Posted 5/5/09 , edited 5/5/09

666monster wrote:

I choose Samurai.... cause they have a fast and sharp katana.....


The Katana is awesome, but the only problem about it is that it can't cut through everything . It would not be able to go through the spartans shield or a chain mail.

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Posted 5/6/09
U should realize that every armor has a joint which can be cut.... That`s your answer..... about shield.... it is only a matter of skill..... Nuff said
Posted 5/9/09
Hm.... Well, it depends on what weapons, tactics they use. And it also depends on their actions, like planning what to do in a battle and how to attack. It also depends on the techniques that you use to. ^^
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Posted 5/13/09
Why are pirates even on here? They are just people who go around on boats and steal things, maybe shoot a few people with firearms or brandish blades at their victims in groups. I doubt they should even be considered warriors. They are on par with back alley criminals and gang members to me.

I voted ninja because they have the element of surprise, can utilize some very lethal techniques and poisons, and are more geared toward one on one combat. Their goal is to stay hidden, after all, so if they get into conflicts, they are probably more adept at killing one or two people at once.

Spartans or Samurai would probably win if it is an open battleground where they can see their enemies though.
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Posted 7/21/09
hmm. idk ninja's move pretty swiftly and their tactics are good. they are sneaky but i also like samurai's because of their pride and they fight pretty well too. pirates are out (unless it's luffy!) so idk which one to decide! >.<
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Posted 8/19/09
Spartans are on par with some of the best warriors of time their disadvantage is their bronze weapons, but they make up for that in skill, experience, and hardened training. the ninjas were good they just cant do direct battle that well.

I was pissed that the pirates beat the knight but eh pirates play dirty.

The samurai vs viking was pretty good though very close.

The monk vs Maori warrior was a very good fight i was not surprised when monk won.
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Posted 8/23/09 , edited 9/30/09


Okay...

1. Ninja: Ninja are not actually warriors at all. They are spies and nothing more. There's a plethora of evidence proving this standpoint and no valid evidence supporting the idea that they were a militant class. Conclusion: Forfeit

2. Pirate: Pirates are not warriors either. They were naval thieves. Very few pirates ever had any sort of martial training. They were most often either escaped prisoners, wanted men, or peasants who joined Pirates in order to avoid being press ganged [brutally forced] into joining the Navy.

3. Spartan: Spartans, though warriors with reputable and great prowess in battle, are too outdated to stand up against the last poll entree. Several reasons.
1. Equipment: Spartans wore no armor but their shields. They fought nude. [Source: Herodotus] Samurai were well armored. Their shields and spears were bronze. Think about this for a second... Bronze vs. Steel.... Need I say more?
2. Training: Spartans fought using outdated tactics [The Phalanx] and did not have much formal training. The Spartans were trained primarily in the use of the spear. The Samurai were trained in Bow,. Spear, Sword, and unarmed combat [Jujutsu] which includes explicitly how to disarm and kill opponents armed with bows, spears, and swords when you have nothing.
3. Mobility: Samurai were elite cavalry units. Spartans were generally footsoldiers.

4. Samurai: Had superior weaponry and equipment, tactics, training, mobility, and likely experience than the greatest portion of the opposition on this poll. Also they have the odds. Spartans had Thermopylae, but the Samurai had numerous battles in which they WON against extreme odds. The Spartans lost at Thermopylae. Think the battle of Okehazama where Oda Nobunaga with a measely 2,000 troops faced and obliterated the mighty Imagawa Yoshimoto with 20,000? Yeah. Sorry Spartans.


Conclusion: Samurai wins by default.
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Posted 8/28/09
lol yeah they did say that the spartans stuff was outdated compared to the others weapons...as well for their tactics alone yeah those are outdated as well but a good point as well they are trained long and hard and have required a very tough resistance towards pain. but i do agree on the samurai they were amazing warriors some of the best when the europeans set sites on japan the samurais fought guns with swords, spears, bows and what not. their fault though is vs a large group sure samurais where good in groups as well but i would like to see them stand up against a hord of viking warriors. that would be a great battle to see.
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Posted 10/7/09
i think the reason that led to the samurai's demise is that they were too well seated in culture and could not move forward in terms of technology

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I believe that ninjas, are best suited for a more closed terrain. Fighting out in the open would not be a good thing. Something such as a forested hill would be ideal, at night, it would be killer.
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Posted 10/8/09

bhavik15 wrote:

i think the reason that led to the samurai's demise is that they were too well seated in culture and could not move forward in terms of technology


You're 100% on the dot on this one. I agree with you totally. It was only a matter of time until they didn't have the modern means to enforce their isolation edict; and what happened? Mathew Perry happened.
What? No, not the dude from Friends; The commodore!

Armed with a fleet of black sloop-of-wars armed to the teeth? Yeah that's a scary sight in a place where firearm technology still consists of arquebuses....






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I believe that ninjas, are best suited for a more closed terrain. Fighting out in the open would not be a good thing. Something such as a forested hill would be ideal, at night, it would be killer.


I reiterate; Ninja are not actually warriors at all. They are spies and nothing more. There's a plethora of evidence proving this standpoint and no valid evidence supporting the idea that they were a militant class.

Even if they were assassins or warriors, they would never be able to access of the fact that training of a Samurai as 90% of Japanese Martial Arts [bujutsu] were EXCLUSIVE to the Samurai.
Guerrilla warfare certainly does have it's advantages, [mostly for small scare battles and skirmishes] but sometimes it is applicable to fight in the open. Most large-scale battles are strategically fought in the open to ensure visibility to avoid ambushes, provide more mobility and room to fight, and
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Posted 10/15/09

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Okay...

1. Ninja: Ninja are not actually warriors at all. They are spies and nothing more. There's a plethora of evidence proving this standpoint and no valid evidence supporting the idea that they were a militant class. Conclusion: Forfeit

2. Pirate: Pirates are not warriors either. They were naval thieves. Very few pirates ever had any sort of martial training. They were most often either escaped prisoners, wanted men, or peasants who joined Pirates in order to avoid being press ganged [brutally forced] into joining the Navy.

3. Spartan: Spartans, though warriors with reputable and great prowess in battle, are too outdated to stand up against the last poll entree. Several reasons.
1. Equipment: Spartans wore no armor but their shields. They fought nude. [Source: Herodotus] Samurai were well armored. Their shields and spears were bronze. Think about this for a second... Bronze vs. Steel.... Need I say more?
2. Training: Spartans fought using outdated tactics [The Phalanx] and did not have much formal training. The Spartans were trained primarily in the use of the spear. The Samurai were trained in Bow,. Spear, Sword, and unarmed combat [Jujutsu] which includes explicitly how to disarm and kill opponents armed with bows, spears, and swords when you have nothing.
3. Mobility: Samurai were elite cavalry units. Spartans were generally footsoldiers.

4. Samurai: Had superior weaponry and equipment, tactics, training, mobility, and likely experience than the greatest portion of the opposition on this poll. Also they have the odds. Spartans had Thermopylae, but the Samurai had numerous battles in which they WON against extreme odds. The Spartans lost at Thermopylae. Think the battle of Okehazama where Oda Nobunaga with a measely 2,000 troops faced and obliterated the mighty Imagawa Yoshimoto with 20,000? Yeah. Sorry Spartans.


Conclusion: Samurai wins by default.


Hmm... from what i can tell the Spartans wore some form of lacquered leather armor, at least from the last book on them i read. Regardless, that was fiction, but it was realistic fiction, so I'm skeptical as to whether they fought in the nude. It just doesn't make sense. I'm pretty sure Herodotus was just trying to be poetic and make the Spartans sound epic or something...
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