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Member TheAncientOne 2713 cr points Send Message: 49 / M / U.S.A. Offline	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Oct 10 2009 infinitycubed wrote: Spoiler Alert!!! click to hide or show TheAncientOne wrote: infinitycubed wrote: Speaking theoretically, I think that any rational person would have to be about 1000 in your fear of dying scale,although sometimes I fear that I am not nearly as high on the scale as I should be. Whoa. So with 100 being, "I'd sell all my relatives and friends into torture and slavery if I could be immortal", you think a rational person would be 10x that!? Even if one takes the atheistic view of death (total cessation of existence), I cannot even conceive of that level of fear of death. Of course, if I felt that outcome was an absolute certainty, my fear of death would actually be even lower. After all, if I didn't exist, I certainly wouldn't miss being alive. :) The only thing I can conceive of engendering such fear of death in a rational person would be if they knew with absolute certainty that when they died they would be consigned to eternal torment even worse than hell for eternity. So if you didn't exist you wouldn't miss being alive. That is the trouble with your imagination. You think that it is better to be in a situation where you have no frustrated desires, even if it means having no satisfied desires either and no desires, sensations, thoughts, and feelings at all, than to be in a situation where you exist and think and feel but your thoughts and feelings are unhappy ones, such as being tortured in hell forever. I believe that even if you are suffering intense pain you will still be experiencing more pleasure than a dead person would (unless there is an afterlife). I say that being tortured is more fun than that not being at all, that there is more pleasure in agonizing pain than in non existence. People tend to imagine that intense pain and intense pleasure are at opposite ends of a scale and that death is kind of a neutral feeling in the middle between pain and pleasure -- and thus sort of like an more or less average state of mind. But I suggest that a better mental picture .would be to think of intense pain and intense pleasure as being points on the rim of a circle, with a neutral feeling halfway between them. Imagine that the circle is infinitely large, and non existence is in the center point and is infinitely evil. The farther away from the central point of non existence, the better. All known human experiences are on the circle infinitely far away from the central point of death and oblivion and thus are infinitely superior to it, even though some are more pleasurable or painful than others. "Imagine that the circle is infinitely large, and non existence is in the center point and is infinitely evil". Taken literally, that would mean a life never conceived also represented infinite evil. Even if we take this only in the context of death, I still strongly disagree. Death is a natural part of life. Indeed, I feel it is a requirement. Imagine the problems the world would not suffer if no one ever died. Even if that also came at the cost of no one being born, the consequences would be even greater than most could imagine.
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infinitycubed 835 cr points Send Message: 59 / M Offline	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Oct 10 2009, edited Oct 10 2009 TheAncientOne wrote: infinitycubed wrote: Spoiler Alert!!! click to hide or show TheAncientOne wrote: infinitycubed wrote: Speaking theoretically, I think that any rational person would have to be about 1000 in your fear of dying scale,although sometimes I fear that I am not nearly as high on the scale as I should be. Whoa. So with 100 being, "I'd sell all my relatives and friends into torture and slavery if I could be immortal", you think a rational person would be 10x that!? Even if one takes the atheistic view of death (total cessation of existence), I cannot even conceive of that level of fear of death. Of course, if I felt that outcome was an absolute certainty, my fear of death would actually be even lower. After all, if I didn't exist, I certainly wouldn't miss being alive. :) The only thing I can conceive of engendering such fear of death in a rational person would be if they knew with absolute certainty that when they died they would be consigned to eternal torment even worse than hell for eternity. So if you didn't exist you wouldn't miss being alive. That is the trouble with your imagination. You think that it is better to be in a situation where you have no frustrated desires, even if it means having no satisfied desires either and no desires, sensations, thoughts, and feelings at all, than to be in a situation where you exist and think and feel but your thoughts and feelings are unhappy ones, such as being tortured in hell forever. I believe that even if you are suffering intense pain you will still be experiencing more pleasure than a dead person would (unless there is an afterlife). I say that being tortured is more fun than that not being at all, that there is more pleasure in agonizing pain than in non existence. People tend to imagine that intense pain and intense pleasure are at opposite ends of a scale and that death is kind of a neutral feeling in the middle between pain and pleasure -- and thus sort of like an more or less average state of mind. But I suggest that a better mental picture .would be to think of intense pain and intense pleasure as being points on the rim of a circle, with a neutral feeling halfway between them. Imagine that the circle is infinitely large, and non existence is in the center point and is infinitely evil. The farther away from the central point of non existence, the better. All known human experiences are on the circle infinitely far away from the central point of death and oblivion and thus are infinitely superior to it, even though some are more pleasurable or painful than others. "Imagine that the circle is infinitely large, and non existence is in the center point and is infinitely evil". Taken literally, that would mean a life never conceived also represented infinite evil. Even if we take this only in the context of death, I still strongly disagree. Death is a natural part of life. Indeed, I feel it is a requirement. Imagine the problems the world would not suffer if no one ever died. Even if that also came at the cost of no one being born, the consequences would be even greater than most could imagine. You say" Death is a natural part of life" . It is true that other people's deaths are a part of every person's life since people die every minute. But a person's own death is not a part of his life, but the end, unless you count any hypothetical afterlife as part of his life. You say that there would be be a lot of problems if nobody died. I think that facing those problems is quite acceptable, considering the alternative. Besides, a human body could only be kept alive for centuries or thousands of years (possibly spaced over a much longer span by suspended animation or something with a similar effect. To live longer than that a person would have be radically transformed,by copying his memories into an intelligent robot body and brain, for example.. Thus he would have far different physical requirements for survival than a biological being and would not contribute to the nightmare of an overcrowded Earth you are probably imagining.
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Member TheAncientOne 2713 cr points Send Message: 49 / M / U.S.A. Offline	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Oct 11 2009 infinitycubed wrote: TheAncientOne wrote: infinitycubed wrote: Spoiler Alert!!! click to hide or show TheAncientOne wrote: infinitycubed wrote: Speaking theoretically, I think that any rational person would have to be about 1000 in your fear of dying scale,although sometimes I fear that I am not nearly as high on the scale as I should be. Whoa. So with 100 being, "I'd sell all my relatives and friends into torture and slavery if I could be immortal", you think a rational person would be 10x that!? Even if one takes the atheistic view of death (total cessation of existence), I cannot even conceive of that level of fear of death. Of course, if I felt that outcome was an absolute certainty, my fear of death would actually be even lower. After all, if I didn't exist, I certainly wouldn't miss being alive. :) The only thing I can conceive of engendering such fear of death in a rational person would be if they knew with absolute certainty that when they died they would be consigned to eternal torment even worse than hell for eternity. So if you didn't exist you wouldn't miss being alive. That is the trouble with your imagination. You think that it is better to be in a situation where you have no frustrated desires, even if it means having no satisfied desires either and no desires, sensations, thoughts, and feelings at all, than to be in a situation where you exist and think and feel but your thoughts and feelings are unhappy ones, such as being tortured in hell forever. I believe that even if you are suffering intense pain you will still be experiencing more pleasure than a dead person would (unless there is an afterlife). I say that being tortured is more fun than that not being at all, that there is more pleasure in agonizing pain than in non existence. People tend to imagine that intense pain and intense pleasure are at opposite ends of a scale and that death is kind of a neutral feeling in the middle between pain and pleasure -- and thus sort of like an more or less average state of mind. But I suggest that a better mental picture .would be to think of intense pain and intense pleasure as being points on the rim of a circle, with a neutral feeling halfway between them. Imagine that the circle is infinitely large, and non existence is in the center point and is infinitely evil. The farther away from the central point of non existence, the better. All known human experiences are on the circle infinitely far away from the central point of death and oblivion and thus are infinitely superior to it, even though some are more pleasurable or painful than others. "Imagine that the circle is infinitely large, and non existence is in the center point and is infinitely evil". Taken literally, that would mean a life never conceived also represented infinite evil. Even if we take this only in the context of death, I still strongly disagree. Death is a natural part of life. Indeed, I feel it is a requirement. Imagine the problems the world would not suffer if no one ever died. Even if that also came at the cost of no one being born, the consequences would be even greater than most could imagine. You say" Death is a natural part of life" . It is true that other people's deaths are a part of every person's life since people die every minute. But a person's own death is not a part of his life, but the end, unless you count any hypothetical afterlife as part of his life. You say that there would be be a lot of problems if nobody died. I think that facing those problems is quite acceptable, considering the alternative. Besides, a human body could only be kept alive for centuries or thousands of years (possibly spaced over a much longer span by suspended animation or something with a similar effect. To live longer than that a person would have be radically transformed,by copying his memories into an intelligent robot body and brain, for example.. Thus he would have far different physical requirements for survival than a biological being and would not contribute to the nightmare of an overcrowded Earth you are probably imagining. Regarding the first paragraph, arguing the a person's death is not part of their life is not a part of their life is a semantic argument. It akin to claiming that the end of a road is not part of the road. Regarding your last sentence, you overlooked the fact that I already addressed that when I stated, "Even if that also came at the cost of no one being born,...". I thought I made it quite clear I was taking problems due to population growth out of the equation.
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Member xXblasreiterXx 140 cr points Send Message: 13 / M / united states Offline	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Nov 1 2009 where can i watch season 2?
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Member kariema24's Avatar Level 0 Anime-Girl kariema24 23 cr points Send Message: 15 / F / pasig city Offline	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Nov 1 2009 you wanna know why lelouch sacrificed himself in the end? its simply because to eliminate the hatred gathered all upon him. remember that he wanted to create a new world for his sister nunally. anyway i think you must review the episodes of the anime to understand better the revelations and turns in the story. and besides, lelouch is not yet dead. there are rumors that there would be R3 coming soon.
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mourneblade 824 cr points Send Message: 21 Offline	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Nov 30 2009 whoa! season 3.....hehe that's very unexpected......where can i see Kallen again?
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