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Post Reply Who is most compatible with Gintoki?
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Posted 12/15/13
Wel buddy, Gintoki x Tsukuyo
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Posted 1/29/14
GINTOKI X TSUKUYO FOR EVER!!!!!
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TSUKUYO!!!! Plus, I can feel the sparks comin from the computer screen;3


I think that's a sign you need a new monitor.


I can feel the burn in my anus.
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I don't ship anyone in this series, since I think Gintoki is destined to die a bachelor & has serious commitment issues, but you have to admit that Gintoki's been in a lot of embarrassing, awkward, & accidental naked situations Taizo & Kondou, & I find that hilarious.

For her, I'd say Tsukuyo based on interactions in the manga, but they don't seem like they could commit to eachother. Kagura's out, as far as the manga's concerned. There was a whole storyline where Kagura, her father, & he himself kept referring to Gintoki as "Kagura's Earth Father."

The historical character he's based on is an unmarried mama's boy with no children, so hilariously enough, he could end up with old Otose.

You do have to keep in mind that Gintama falls under the "troll author" trope, meaning Hideaki Sorachi is likely to squash all ships & have a totlly unromantic ending with no hook-ups, not unlike that Pendleton Ward does with Adventure Time. I'd even bet money on it.
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You do have to keep in mind that Gintama falls under the "troll author" trope, meaning Hideaki Sorachi is likely to squash all ships & have a totlly unromantic ending with no hook-ups, not unlike that Pendleton Ward does with Adventure Time. I'd even bet money on it.


Totally agree. Sorachi continues to casually ship Gin with every girl every few chapters/episodes/whatever.
For example, in the arc with the previous shogun and his corruption, there was total Gin/Tsukuyo shipping.
But then in the movie that came soon after, there was ALL the shipping, especially Gin and Otae.
Like WHAT.

I'm so for Gin/Tsukky though. They're soooooo cute and perfect, like remember during the Red Spider arc when Gin held Tsukky after she stopped being attacked by her master? That was so beautiful.
But then all of the other ships just keep coming back.
:'(
Why don't authors give us what we want and provide us with a proper canon romantic sidestory?
*sigh*

... Not like Naruto, though. That was too much rapidfire shipping with not enough development for the most part.
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Totally agree. Sorachi continues to casually ship Gin with every girl every few chapters/episodes/whatever.
For example, in the arc with the previous shogun and his corruption, there was total Gin/Tsukuyo shipping.
But then in the movie that came soon after, there was ALL the shipping, especially Gin and Otae.
Like WHAT.

I'm so for Gin/Tsukky though. They're soooooo cute and perfect, like remember during the Red Spider arc when Gin held Tsukky after she stopped being attacked by her master? That was so beautiful.
But then all of the other ships just keep coming back.
:'(
Why don't authors give us what we want and provide us with a proper canon romantic sidestory?
*sigh*

... Not like Naruto, though. That was too much rapidfire shipping with not enough development for the most part.


I have strong anti-shipping goggles with mangas. I don't like romance derailing the story or taking screentime away from potential fight scenes or trying to attempt to blend in with the comedy. I also hate how forums on MangaFox are dedicated to crack shipping potential love interests & very little talking about the actual story.
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LikaLaruku wrote:

I have strong anti-shipping goggles with mangas. I don't like romance derailing the story or taking screentime away from potential fight scenes or trying to attempt to blend in with the comedy. I also hate how forums on MangaFox are dedicated to crack shipping potential love interests & very little talking about the actual story.


I agree with this as well but in my opinion Gintama doesn't ever really go out of its way to blatantly ship anyone.
Any of the actions Gin has done that "ships" anything could easily be an act of friendship.
But some of those actions more strongly deviate to the shipping end of the spectrum, and when Sorachi does this, he does it subtly and beautifully in my opinion.

Well, all I know is, Gin+Tsukky for life ok?!?!
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I don't see how "romance is derailing the story" because Gintama is mostly about life, first and foremost. People fall in love, they marry, they build a life together. When we were being introduced to Otose's past, we were told that the old man had an unrequited love for her. We also knew about Jiroucho, we also knew that she married Tatsugorou, all of which has romance involved. Every fight, every adventure has a motive. Love has never been excluded from the motives. What about Hijikata's fight with Mitsuba's ex-fiance? He fought him because he believed it was the one time he could make things right for her. He even admitted that he loved her. Isn't that an element of romance? Romance IS part of Gintama, even though it's a very small part.

For Gintoki and his old friends at the temple school, it was their love for their teacher that motivated them to join the war. Love comes in many forms - familial, friendship, camaraderie, mentor-mentee, including romantic. To exclusively reject "romantic love" as the "love that derails the story" is just... irrational.

I like Gintoki and Tsukuyo, but I really don't think Gintoki has any particular feelings for anyone. :| That's the very sad part for me. LOL

But I don't really mind that they will not get together.

Gintama is still a series I enjoy, and the thing I love most about it is the comedy, the bonds Gintoki has built with EVERYONE, the action, and the wisdom Sorachi injects into his arcs. I won't rule romance out, but at this point in time, it seems Sorachi isn't interested in having Gintoki getting romantically involved with anyone. Not sure about the ending - I personally doubt it, though. I only say this because Gintama is so unpredictable. However to exclusively claim that "romance" will derail the story just doesn't make sense to me. Sorachi is capable of writing romance, as we have seen through numerous very moving arcs in the past. He has never allowed that to take control of Gintama, and Gintoki as we all know, is unable to commit to anyone anyway. This was already reaffirmed by Tsukuyo in the Aizen Kou arc.

I don't know, I probably sound very "final" with accepting that Gintoki and Tsukuyo won't end up together, but lol. I just can't see them together, even though I love them so much.

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I don't see how "romance is derailing the story" because Gintama is mostly about life, first and foremost. People fall in love, they marry, they build a life together. When we were being introduced to Otose's past, we were told that the old man had an unrequited love for her. We also knew about Jiroucho, we also knew that she married Tatsugorou, all of which has romance involved. Every fight, every adventure has a motive. Love has never been excluded from the motives. What about Hijikata's fight with Mitsuba's ex-fiance? He fought him because he believed it was the one time he could make things right for her. He even admitted that he loved her. Isn't that an element of romance? Romance IS part of Gintama, even though it's a very small part.

For Gintoki and his old friends at the temple school, it was their love for their teacher that motivated them to join the war. Love comes in many forms - familial, friendship, camaraderie, mentor-mentee, including romantic. To exclusively reject "romantic love" as the "love that derails the story" is just... irrational.

I like Gintoki and Tsukuyo, but I really don't think Gintoki has any particular feelings for anyone. :| That's the very sad part for me. LOL

But I don't really mind that they will not get together.

Gintama is still a series I enjoy, and the thing I love most about it is the comedy, the bonds Gintoki has built with EVERYONE, the action, and the wisdom Sorachi injects into his arcs. I won't rule romance out, but at this point in time, it seems Sorachi isn't interested in having Gintoki getting romantically involved with anyone. Not sure about the ending - I personally doubt it, though. I only say this because Gintama is so unpredictable. However to exclusively claim that "romance" will derail the story just doesn't make sense to me. Sorachi is capable of writing romance, as we have seen through numerous very moving arcs in the past. He has never allowed that to take control of Gintama, and Gintoki as we all know, is unable to commit to anyone anyway. This was already reaffirmed by Tsukuyo in the Aizen Kou arc.

I don't know, I probably sound very "final" with accepting that Gintoki and Tsukuyo won't end up together, but lol. I just can't see them together, even though I love them so much.



When a romantic subplot is introduced to a series that is not labeled as a romance, then it's derailing from the story as filler. Fortunately, the shipping is sort of a joke within itself in this series, because pairings are like cat toys & the author is dangles toys in front of a cat with no intention of letting the cat ever catch it. & if the cat does catch it, he will yank it away.

Love & marriage are not for everyone. Few stay married to a single person their whole lives. Romance & ties of friendship pretty much fizzle once a baby comes into the picture. I know more single parents & divorced persons. Some people abstain from relationships for personal, mental, health, or career reasons. I have many friends with kids who live with partners unmarried (they're boyfriends all have bad credit they don't want their kids to inherit, or are opposed to marriage for reasons of non-religion). For me, romance is stories is a huge sappy saccharine cliche you can't escape from, it sticks its nose into everything.

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When a romantic subplot is introduced to a series that is not labeled as a romance, then it's derailing from the story as filler. Fortunately, the shipping is sort of a joke within itself in this series, because pairings are like cat toys & the author is dangles toys in front of a cat with no intention of letting the cat ever catch it. & if the cat does catch it, he will yank it away.

Love & marriage are not for everyone. Few stay married to a single person their whole lives. Romance & ties of friendship pretty much fizzle once a baby comes into the picture. I know more single parents & divorced persons. Some people abstain from relationships for personal, mental, health, or career reasons. I have many friends with kids who live with partners unmarried (they're boyfriends all have bad credit they don't want their kids to inherit, or are opposed to marriage for reasons of non-religion). For me, romance is stories is a huge sappy saccharine cliche you can't escape from, it sticks its nose into everything.



This isn't real life. The shounen demographic is primarily aimed at kids anywhere from 7 to 15 years old. There are older readers but the main base are much younger. A good majority of shounen protagonists, and Weekly Shounen Jump protagonists, DO in fact, get married after the end of each adventure and journey. No one is asking for the subplot to overtake the main story. However, love and romance is *still* a part of life. It is a *part* of human life. I never implied that every single person has to get married or get involved with someone, I was only saying that it is NOT entirely impossible. However, in your case, you were dismissing the idea entirely simply because you have a disaffectation for it.

To bring up a few examples from Weekly Shounen Jump itself where protagonists ended up with a significant other:

Dragonball Z - Goku got married even before the journey's end. And then his son in turn got married.
Rurouni Kenshin - Kenshin was married twice, only because his first wife was killed.
Bakuman - BOTH main protagonists were married, and in Masshiro's case, his goal in the series from start to finish was actually to marry Miho.
Busou Renkin, City Hunter, Double Arts, NARUTO, all of which, have seen their main protagonists happily married.

Non-WSJ examples but are still categorised as SHOUNEN:

Fullmetal Alchemist, Inuyasha, have all seen their protagonists happily married.

There are many other ongoing shounen in other magazines (non-WSJ) that incorporate romance in their stories.

They are NOT labeled as romance because ultimately, the stories DO NOT revolve around romance. However, it is NOT to say romance will absolutely be non-existent. Take for example BLEACH. The romance element actually defines some of its characters. The author made it a point over and over again that the character Orihime's motivation comes from her so-called "love" for Ichigo. She vowed to love him for five lifetimes. She vowed to get stronger for him. Byakuya's love for his wife spurred him to go against his very strict upbringing and clan laws to adopt a common girl into his home as his younger sister.

What about Gol D Roger in ONE PIECE? He was the King of the Seas, but he fell in love, got married and his wife gave birth to Portgas D Ace. Despite Oda saying there won't be romance in the story, nevertheless his characters have gone through the trials and tribulations of love itself. "Romance" is not a grand genre. It is a necessary element to tell a story. In shounen, it simply will NOT be expounded upon. That does not mean romance is NON-EXISTENT. That does not mean one should never ever incorporate romance into their story.

In stories, there are bound to be characters that simply interact better with one another than the others. This is where fans will have fun speculating what would their relationship be like. In fanworks. Now, I dislike fans who distort canon and assassinate characters to fit in their romantic fantasies, but I will not go as far as to reject an author's intention to inject some romantic element into his work so that he could tell a much bigger story of action, adventure and drama.

The manga world is evolving. Protagonists are no longer the stoic, emotionless heroes such as those buffed up men like Dark Scheider from BASTARD in the 1970s' or 1980s who are incapable of falling in love. Romance and love are a part of life. No one says it has to be a happy ever after ending. No one says the guys have to have a partner. But to simply reject it outright is ridiculous. People aren't even looking at it from a 50/50 spectrum. They're either for 100% NO ROMANCE or 100% ROMANCE. That's illogical.















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Posted 1/28/15 , edited 1/28/15

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Ask me how many shits I give. I find romance intrucive & revolting & do not enjoy having it or fanservice shoved down my throat like inescapable commercials & taxes.

I can only take it that you're the type who lives to ship & will defend injecting wishfull romance into noneromantic mangas to the death.

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EW. Kagura is like 14 don't even put her in here. It's obvious they have a father/daughter relationship.

Also I know Sorachi at first designed for Kyuubei to be sexually confused but it seems more and more in the manga that he has decided for her to be transgender homoromantic, a good representation to the lgbt community.

Otea seems to have more of a sister relationship with Gintoki. And she wants to be married one day. So out of the question.

Tsukuyo has a similar background to Gintoki's, can hold her own, they seem to be getting closer and closer in the manga. Also Tsukuyo is the only true female tsundere. It is canon that Gintoki has a thing for tsunderes.

All in all I don't think Ginsan will end up with anyone in the end. And if he does it'll probably be like Hasegawa or Hijikata.
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Gintoki and Kagura have a father-daughter relationship. That would be really weird.
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I hope Gintoki end up with Sa-chan. I don't like Tsukuyo.
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GinTae!! since Benizakura arc..xD
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