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Anyway anyone wonders how come rika changes from childish and suddenly becomes this pessimistic girl..That pessimistic girl is actually God^2
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Anyway anyone wonders how come rika changes from childish and suddenly becomes this pessimistic girl..That pessimistic girl is actually God^2


wrong... she have too personality... i ask u
if u see her friends... at her age... being pessimistic... you think they still will befirend rika? besides... rika is rika
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anyways hat ever it is it sure is interesting...a person above hanyuu?? i wonder what kind of effect will it make or something like that...

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nope.. she is not a witch... she is someone who keep living...


just like rika?


the new naku koro ni series seems to suggest otherwise. the way she talks makes it sound like she has full control of where she's going, which puts her at a level above Rika.


She is someone above rika... Someone who respect hanyuu as Oyashiro we can say... she is actually like hanyuu yet above hanyuu,,, She can travel through diff worlds as she like.. whereas Hanyuu is alwyas with rika




another possible thing is that she is human... she lives and die... but she knows what is going on in each world... and coz she remember... she doesn't really die
thats how we can say from

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Matsuribayashi-hen (Ending Credit Roll Part
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That's because
I'm gonna become much much more happy from now on.

I'm not gonna compromise with just this.
We are gonna take back all of our happiness that we lost.

For me, that's about a hundred year's worth.
For you, a thousand year's worth.

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Rika ended her thousand year journey...
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Message from Frederica Bernkastel
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I am who I am; Frederica Bernkastel.
Furude Rika and Frederica are different. Shame on you if you thought so.
My age? I've gotten bored with it, so I've quit counting.

Huh? Are you speculating that the real identity of the Oyashiro-sama is me?
Giggle giggle. You are so insolent.
The Oyashiro-sama is the Oyashiro-sama. You want me to introduce it to you? It's rather shy.
It gets frightened easily so don't scare it, okay? However, it seems that you are the one that's scared.

Giggle giggle giggle...
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she can remember what happen so she don't really die... she just move on to a next world so in a way... she is ageless....maybe thats why she say she got bored with her age and quit counting... and also for herself 100 years and for rika 1000 years
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~_~

In Umineko there's a character called Bernkastel who looks like Frederica.
I haven't played the game so I'm not sure, but someone who did said that there's a part of it where the witches talk about events that could be related to Higurashi...

and LOL I just noticed.

Furederika is how you'd romanize the way you write Frederica in Japanese. It's one letter off from "Furude Rika". xD
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~_~

In Umineko there's a character called Bernkastel who looks like Frederica.
I haven't played the game so I'm not sure, but someone who did said that there's a part of it where the witches talk about events that could be related to Higurashi...

and LOL I just noticed.

Furederika is how you'd romanize the way you write Frederica in Japanese. It's one letter off from "Furude Rika". xD


err Frederica is meant to be spelt that way... her name is Frederica Bernkastel.... and if u see some words before the starting.. thats the poems by Frederica Bernkastel
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skittty wrote:

~_~

In Umineko there's a character called Bernkastel who looks like Frederica.
I haven't played the game so I'm not sure, but someone who did said that there's a part of it where the witches talk about events that could be related to Higurashi...

and LOL I just noticed.

Furederika is how you'd romanize the way you write Frederica in Japanese. It's one letter off from "Furude Rika". xD


err Frederica is meant to be spelt that way... her name is Frederica Bernkastel.... and if u see some words before the starting.. thats the poems by Frederica Bernkastel


Frederica in Japanese is フレデリーカ (Furederika). I was just saying that it sounds so close to Furude Rika.
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bigben1989 wrote:


skittty wrote:

~_~

In Umineko there's a character called Bernkastel who looks like Frederica.
I haven't played the game so I'm not sure, but someone who did said that there's a part of it where the witches talk about events that could be related to Higurashi...

and LOL I just noticed.

Furederika is how you'd romanize the way you write Frederica in Japanese. It's one letter off from "Furude Rika". xD


err Frederica is meant to be spelt that way... her name is Frederica Bernkastel.... and if u see some words before the starting.. thats the poems by Frederica Bernkastel


Frederica in Japanese is フレデリーカ (Furederika). I was just saying that it sounds so close to Furude Rika.


but somehow... i no idea why... i still feel.. those 2 know each other.... but.. hanyuu doesn't really feel the existance of Frederica
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skittty wrote:


bigben1989 wrote:


skittty wrote:

~_~

In Umineko there's a character called Bernkastel who looks like Frederica.
I haven't played the game so I'm not sure, but someone who did said that there's a part of it where the witches talk about events that could be related to Higurashi...

and LOL I just noticed.

Furederika is how you'd romanize the way you write Frederica in Japanese. It's one letter off from "Furude Rika". xD


err Frederica is meant to be spelt that way... her name is Frederica Bernkastel.... and if u see some words before the starting.. thats the poems by Frederica Bernkastel


Frederica in Japanese is フレデリーカ (Furederika). I was just saying that it sounds so close to Furude Rika.


but somehow... i no idea why... i still feel.. those 2 know each other.... but.. hanyuu doesn't really feel the existance of Frederica


Some people say that Frederica is the consciousness of all the Rikas that died in all the previous worlds.. o.o
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skittty wrote:


bigben1989 wrote:


skittty wrote:


bigben1989 wrote:


skittty wrote:

~_~

In Umineko there's a character called Bernkastel who looks like Frederica.
I haven't played the game so I'm not sure, but someone who did said that there's a part of it where the witches talk about events that could be related to Higurashi...

and LOL I just noticed.

Furederika is how you'd romanize the way you write Frederica in Japanese. It's one letter off from "Furude Rika". xD


err Frederica is meant to be spelt that way... her name is Frederica Bernkastel.... and if u see some words before the starting.. thats the poems by Frederica Bernkastel


Frederica in Japanese is フレデリーカ (Furederika). I was just saying that it sounds so close to Furude Rika.


but somehow... i no idea why... i still feel.. those 2 know each other.... but.. hanyuu doesn't really feel the existance of Frederica


Some people say that Frederica is the consciousness of all the Rikas that died in all the previous worlds.. o.o


but from what Frederica's message... they are 2 different ppl... and also she won't want to see her friends in all those kind of stuff... like akasaka in the wrong side... etc
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bigben1989 wrote:


skittty wrote:


bigben1989 wrote:


skittty wrote:


bigben1989 wrote:


skittty wrote:

~_~

In Umineko there's a character called Bernkastel who looks like Frederica.
I haven't played the game so I'm not sure, but someone who did said that there's a part of it where the witches talk about events that could be related to Higurashi...

and LOL I just noticed.

Furederika is how you'd romanize the way you write Frederica in Japanese. It's one letter off from "Furude Rika". xD


err Frederica is meant to be spelt that way... her name is Frederica Bernkastel.... and if u see some words before the starting.. thats the poems by Frederica Bernkastel


Frederica in Japanese is フレデリーカ (Furederika). I was just saying that it sounds so close to Furude Rika.


but somehow... i no idea why... i still feel.. those 2 know each other.... but.. hanyuu doesn't really feel the existance of Frederica


Some people say that Frederica is the consciousness of all the Rikas that died in all the previous worlds.. o.o


but from what Frederica's message... they are 2 different ppl... and also she won't want to see her friends in all those kind of stuff... like akasaka in the wrong side... etc


Yeah... It might be like the thing I said about the witches talking about the events.. it makes it seem like Frederica was just bored so she made all those things happen. That sort of ruins the story if it was just for fun.. =/
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skittty wrote:


bigben1989 wrote:


skittty wrote:


bigben1989 wrote:


skittty wrote:


bigben1989 wrote:


skittty wrote:

~_~

In Umineko there's a character called Bernkastel who looks like Frederica.
I haven't played the game so I'm not sure, but someone who did said that there's a part of it where the witches talk about events that could be related to Higurashi...

and LOL I just noticed.

Furederika is how you'd romanize the way you write Frederica in Japanese. It's one letter off from "Furude Rika". xD


err Frederica is meant to be spelt that way... her name is Frederica Bernkastel.... and if u see some words before the starting.. thats the poems by Frederica Bernkastel


Frederica in Japanese is フレデリーカ (Furederika). I was just saying that it sounds so close to Furude Rika.


but somehow... i no idea why... i still feel.. those 2 know each other.... but.. hanyuu doesn't really feel the existance of Frederica


Some people say that Frederica is the consciousness of all the Rikas that died in all the previous worlds.. o.o


but from what Frederica's message... they are 2 different ppl... and also she won't want to see her friends in all those kind of stuff... like akasaka in the wrong side... etc


Yeah... It might be like the thing I said about the witches talking about the events.. it makes it seem like Frederica was just bored so she made all those things happen. That sort of ruins the story if it was just for fun.. =/


Not say ruin the story... but more of... letting us have more info about her... if u notice... we really don't have much info on her... if she don't say more... we will not even know the person at the end of kai is frederica and keep thinking its rika grow old and somehow have power to go back in time....
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so what is her relation with rika and hanyuu???does she know her personally?? if she has the power higher than hanyuu then maybe she can do something about things such as dying again and again and such....afterall doesn't she get tired of being killed again and again??? i quite confused....
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That definitely ain't Frederica Bernkatsel... that one was definitely Furede Rika... We all know that she lived at the end of Kai, and Hanyuu was with them... Also, we know that Hanyuu has the ability to travel back in time.

My theory is, Hanyuu traveled back in time with Rika during the time when Miyo was still a kid. More or less she would have known about Miyo's past during the time after Kai. If Hanyuu and Rika sees that event being the reason why Miyo did all that in the 2 previous seasons, then it would be just logical that they would go back in time to save her, for them to be saved from all those series of unfortunate events.

Also, Rika did say that they were playing Old Geezer and not Old Maid. If one adds the missing card that is taken out in a game of Old Geezer, it becomes a game without losers. Hanyuu being the missing card, gave Rika the possibility to travel back in time and save Miyo.

Also, it just showed that no one there is truly evil.
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That definitely ain't Frederica Bernkatsel... that one was definitely Furede Rika... We all know that she lived at the end of Kai, and Hanyuu was with them... Also, we know that Hanyuu has the ability to travel back in time.

My theory is, Hanyuu traveled back in time with Rika during the time when Miyo was still a kid. More or less she would have known about Miyo's past during the time after Kai. If Hanyuu and Rika sees that event being the reason why Miyo did all that in the 2 previous seasons, then it would be just logical that they would go back in time to save her, for them to be saved from all those series of unfortunate events.

Also, Rika did say that they were playing Old Geezer and not Old Maid. If one adds the missing card that is taken out in a game of Old Geezer, it becomes a game without losers. Hanyuu being the missing card, gave Rika the possibility to travel back in time and save Miyo.

Also, it just showed that no one there is truly evil.


about ur 2 points
1)she live to end of kai... she could just live and die
2)hanyuu said... this is the last world.. her powers pretty much gone and hanyuu's power is not traveling back in time... its bring rika to another world tgt with her and changing from a spirit form to a human form... these are pretty much her powers
she can't travel back in time which start ur theroy wrong

This scene at the end of kai was shown and illuminous have mention what Frederica said in that ending....
Frederica have the power to change the way thigns go and also to travel to different worlds as she please... she mentioned she wanted to see Akasaka was seduced by Takano and went to the enemy side.or a world where Satoshi is together with them or a world where the Sonozaki twins don't change places... she can see all that if she wants to in the differnet world that happen...

o and one more thing

The poems are taken by things related to Higurashi and also from the game Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Matsuri... and ya... people played the game... so there is no chance those who play the game will mistaken Frederica and Rika
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Frederica in Japanese is フレデリーカ (Furederika). I was just saying that it sounds so close to Furude Rika.

I mentioned this in anouther thread and totaly agree with you.
It seems way to big a coincidance, and as far as i've seen the writer of higurishi are to smart to make a mistake like giving two of there charictors simalar names.
so even if they arnt the same person i think there must at least be some conection between them or at least a reason that the writers wanted them to be asociated with each other
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