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Cannibalism, It's part of human nature
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Ever notice, how when you have a group of several people, stranded out in the middle of nowhere, and their food runs of, that they usually resort to cannibalism, it happens more often then you think, and what that shows, is that cannibalism is part of human nature, it's part of the instinct to survive.


Survival Cannibalism

Anthropologists divide anthropophagy into two broad categories, based on its context. One is learned cannibalism, also called customary anthropophagy. The other broad classification, survival cannibalism, is perhaps the most disturbing. Survival cannibalism isn't learned, it appears to be innate(part of human nature). It's also the one most easily forgiven in the minds of Westerners. And it's happened more commonly than civilized society would feel comfortable admitting.

The Donner Party is one striking example. In 1846, a group of Westward expansionists set out for California from the Iowa territory. A group of 89 settlers broke off from the original party, taking a shortcut through the Sierra Nevada Mountains. Stranded in the mountains by a harsh winter and faced with starvation, the group splintered again. As the weather grew worse, the original and expedition sections of the Donner Party depleted their food, their animals and eventually turned to cannibalism to survive.

Forty years later, four men on a yacht named the Mignonette sailing from England to Australia were stranded in a lifeboat after the yacht sank in the Atlantic. They remained adrift for more than two months and exhausted the meat of a sea turtle they'd captured. One of the men -- a sailor named Richard Parker -- drank seawater out of desperate thirst. As his health declined, his shipmates opted to kill and eat him rather than wait for the young man to die naturally. In an excruciating twist of irony, a sailor named Richard Parker was eaten by his fellow castaways after they'd eaten a tortoise in a 1838 Edgar Allen Poe short story, "The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym" [source: The New York Times].

In 1972, a group of 16 people, including members of a Uruguayan rugby team, faced a similar situation when a plane crash stranded them in the Andes Mountains in Chile. During their 70 days in the mountains, the surviving members of the team ate the flesh of others who died in the plane crash [source: Simpson].

Survival cannibalism has happened enough that by the 19th century, it was an unspoken fact of life in the event of a shipwreck. This, the custom of the sea, included general guidelines. Drawing lots (straws) was the traditional method of deciding who would be killed and eaten and who would carry out the killing. Usually, the person with the shortest straw died and the person with the next shortest straw was the killer [source: Salon].

Survival cannibalism is a last resort. In the case of one group adrift in a lifeboat, 116 days passed without food before the party turned to eating human flesh. In most cases, anything even remotely resembling food was first eaten. Dogs, candles, leather, shoes and blankets are all consumed first before cannibalism becomes the only recourse for survival.

Under these terrible circumstances, cannibalism seems like a logical step. It appears in Looney Tunes cartoons when characters find themselves in some other life-threatening situation. Suddenly, Bugs Bunny or Elmer Fudd notices a companion looks an awful lot like a nice, perfectly cooked porterhouse steak. As terrible as the thought is, it just makes sense. But Western society's willingness to forgive its members' consumption of human flesh in the direst of circumstances is in stark contrast to how the West views learned cannibalism.


So as that says, resorting to cannibalism to survive is hardwired into everyone's head, yours, mine, everyone. It's instinct. So remember that if you ever get stranded somewhere with a bunch of people, your next meal, could very well be sitting next to you. Although it appears to be a last resort thing. But it could very well save your life one day.
Posted 5/16/09
Logic says that it's better to have a sacrifice and keep everyone else alive than to all die.
However, cannibalism is not so understandable for sexual fantasies or for any other reason than survival, obviously.
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As an Anthropology major myself, I've been exposed to a lot of weird theories and studies about the innate human nature.Yet most of those concepts make sense. And this concept of "Survival Cannibalism" is no exception.

Most people who don't study science or Anthropology are so simple minded when it comes to nature. I even heard a few ignorant people claiming that cannibalism, "isn't natural" yet are completely oblivious to the blatant evidence of cannibalism in nature. The same with concepts like "homosexuality" or "Incest"

Of course one must always be aware of the adage that says "Just because something is naturally inherent doesn't mean that it can be justified."

It's interesting that nature can be so unusual at times, huh?
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Allhailodin wrote:


As an Anthropology major myself, I've been exposed to alot of weird theories and studies about the innate human nature.Yet most of those concepts make sense. And this concept of "Survival Cannibalism" is no exception.

Most people who don't study science or Anthropology are so simple minded when it comes to nature. I even heard a few ignorant people claiming that cannibalism, "isn't natural" yet are complete oblivious to the blatant evidence of cannibalism in nature. The same with concepts like "homosexuality" or "Incest"

Of course one must always be aware of the adage that says "Just because something is naturallu inherent doesn't mean that is can be justified."

It's interesting that nature can be so unusual at times, huh?


Well it does make logical sense, correct, humans being social animals, are usually gathered together, and since humans are carnivores, and again are usually gathered in groups, it makes perfect sense, that if the normal food supply runs out, you can consume your fellow humans, as they too as made of meat. So it makes logical sense that cannibalism would be a survival instinct. I mean a starving wolf would attack a fellow wolf given the right conditions. If you have to you have to right ? As for incest, i fail to see the problem with incest, and homosexuality is present in other animals throughout "nature". Actually cannibalism is a common ecological interaction in the animal kingdom and has been recorded for more than 1500 species. So its perfectly normal and common in nature.
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I wonder who is going to eat who, thats the problem. As if the other person wants to sacrifice himself as source of food.
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...so i'm gonna eat the next person who posts?
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i hope not.
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QuasimodoSunday wrote:


As an Anthropology major myself, I've been exposed to a lot of weird theories and studies about the innate human nature.Yet most of those concepts make sense. And this concept of "Survival Cannibalism" is no exception.

Most people who don't study science or Anthropology are so simple minded when it comes to nature. I even heard a few ignorant people claiming that cannibalism, "isn't natural" yet are completely oblivious to the blatant evidence of cannibalism in nature. The same with concepts like "homosexuality" or "Incest"

Of course one must always be aware of the adage that says "Just because something is naturally inherent doesn't mean that it can be justified."

It's interesting that nature can be so unusual at times, huh?


I've got two questions: is there an agreed theory on what exactly makes homosexuality (at least by the majority) and how is incest natural? I'm especially more curious about the later since I've learned in biology it's rather a bad idea to inbreed because of minimum gene variation during the breeding process which leads to sickly children and also explains why clones never live long.
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QuasimodoSunday wrote:


As an Anthropology major myself, I've been exposed to a lot of weird theories and studies about the innate human nature.Yet most of those concepts make sense. And this concept of "Survival Cannibalism" is no exception.

Most people who don't study science or Anthropology are so simple minded when it comes to nature. I even heard a few ignorant people claiming that cannibalism, "isn't natural" yet are completely oblivious to the blatant evidence of cannibalism in nature. The same with concepts like "homosexuality" or "Incest"

Of course one must always be aware of the adage that says "Just because something is naturally inherent doesn't mean that it can be justified."

It's interesting that nature can be so unusual at times, huh?


I've got two questions: is there an agreed theory on what exactly makes homosexuality (at least by the majority) and how is incest natural? I'm especially more curious about the later since I've learned in biology it's rather a bad idea to inbreed because of minimum gene variation during the breeding process which leads to sickly children and also explains why clones never live long.


Well a recent study done on the brains of gay people and straight people, showed that the brain of a homosexual male looked an awful lot like the brain of a heterosexual female, and the brain of a homosexual female looked like the brain of a heterosexual male, which shows that some people are born gay, as it's not possible for a human to rearrange their brain by choice. So since they are born gay, I can only assume that it'd be genetic, as I don't see what else can cause that to happen.

And I dunno too much about incest, but i seem to remember hearing that some animals other than humans do it as well. but i dunno too much on that. But they think humans dislike of incest seems to be a genetic failsafe that's hardwired into most people's head.
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Well it does make logical sense, correct, humans being social animals, are usually gathered together, and since humans are carnivores, and again are usually gathered in groups, it makes perfect sense, that if the normal food supply runs out, you can consume your fellow humans, as they too as made of meat. So it makes logical sense that cannibalism would be a survival instinct. I mean a starving wolf would attack a fellow wolf given the right conditions. If you have to you have to right ? As for incest, i fail to see the problem with incest, and homosexuality is present in other animals throughout "nature".


I understand how cannibalism as a "survival mechanism" makes sense.Clearly, other animals resort to cannibalism as well.Yet, when it comes down to it, I truly can't imagine eating another human being. Just thinking about it disgusts me.But then again, I've never been in a situation where I have to kill a human being in order to eat so it's easy for me to say that(The most I ever went without food is about a week and all I do to remedy that is drink a lot of water and wait until my next paycheck the following week. haha.) All the same, I understand the logic behind it.

Homosexuality is clearly natural as is incest in a lesser extent(Some incest have been documented in Bonobo apes where Bonobo infants and adolescences would have non conception sex with even their own siblings and parents. They done this on order to practice for conception sex and by means of bonding). I have no problem with homosexuality and incest(Though I wouldn't really dream of doing it with a family member.) Of course some of the main issues in Incest between heteros is the possibility a child might be deformed or suffer birth defects. That and the fact that there would be no variety in the offspring genes. Of course if two homos engage in incest it really wouldn't make a bit of difference, now would it?


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QuasimodoSunday wrote:


As an Anthropology major myself, I've been exposed to a lot of weird theories and studies about the innate human nature.Yet most of those concepts make sense. And this concept of "Survival Cannibalism" is no exception.

Most people who don't study science or Anthropology are so simple minded when it comes to nature. I even heard a few ignorant people claiming that cannibalism, "isn't natural" yet are completely oblivious to the blatant evidence of cannibalism in nature. The same with concepts like "homosexuality" or "Incest"

Of course one must always be aware of the adage that says "Just because something is naturally inherent doesn't mean that it can be justified."

It's interesting that nature can be so unusual at times, huh?


I've got two questions: is there an agreed theory on what exactly makes homosexuality (at least by the majority) and how is incest natural? I'm especially more curious about the later since I've learned in biology it's rather a bad idea to inbreed because of minimum gene variation during the breeding process which leads to sickly children and also explains why clones never live long.


Read my second response to Allhailodin for the answer.
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I understand how cannibalism as a "survival mechanism" makes sense.Clearly, other animals resort to cannibalism as well.Yet, when it comes down to it, I truly can't imagine eating another human being. Just thinking about it disgusts me.But then again, I've never been in a situation where I have to kill a human being in order to eat so it's easy for me to say that(The most I ever went without food is about a week and all I do to remedy that is drink a lot of water and wait until my next paycheck the following week. haha.) All the same, I understand the logic behind it.

Homosexuality is clearly natural as is incest(Some incest have been documented in Bonobo apes where Bonobo infants and adolescences would have non conception sex with even their own siblings and parents. They done this on order to practice for conception sex and by means of bonding). I have no problem with homosexuality and incest(Though I wouldn't really dream of doing it with a family member.) Of course some of the main issues in Incest between heteros is the possibility a child might be deformed or suffer birth defects. That and the fact that there would be no variety in the offspring genes. Of course if two homos engage in incest it really wouldn't make a bit of difference, now would it?


So


Actually cannibalism is a common ecological interaction in the animal kingdom and has been recorded for more than 1500 species. So its far from unnatural. Its actually rather natural. And I can imagine myself eating another human being, if I had too, I mean if I have to I have to right ? Don't have much choice in the matter do I ?

As for incest, they seem think that humans dislike of incest, seems to be a genetic failsafe to prevent the production of genetically fucking offspring. So it seems to be hard wired into your head. Personally I could see myself in a relationship with a family member, As I get long well with some of them and some of then are actually somewhat hot. Doesn't mean i'd going to produce a kid, but I'd be willing to go as far as a relationship.
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Allhailodin wrote:


crunchypibb wrote:


QuasimodoSunday wrote:


As an Anthropology major myself, I've been exposed to a lot of weird theories and studies about the innate human nature.Yet most of those concepts make sense. And this concept of "Survival Cannibalism" is no exception.

Most people who don't study science or Anthropology are so simple minded when it comes to nature. I even heard a few ignorant people claiming that cannibalism, "isn't natural" yet are completely oblivious to the blatant evidence of cannibalism in nature. The same with concepts like "homosexuality" or "Incest"

Of course one must always be aware of the adage that says "Just because something is naturally inherent doesn't mean that it can be justified."

It's interesting that nature can be so unusual at times, huh?


I've got two questions: is there an agreed theory on what exactly makes homosexuality (at least by the majority) and how is incest natural? I'm especially more curious about the later since I've learned in biology it's rather a bad idea to inbreed because of minimum gene variation during the breeding process which leads to sickly children and also explains why clones never live long.


Well a recent study done on the brains of gay people and straight people, showed that the brain of a homosexual male looked an awful lot like the brain of a heterosexual female, and the brain of a homosexual female looked like the brain of a heterosexual male, which shows that some people are born gay, as it's not possible for a human to rearrange their brain by choice. So since they are born gay, I can only assume that it'd be genetic, as I don't see what else can cause that to happen.

And I dunno too much about incest, but i seem to remember hearing that some animals other than humans do it as well. but i dunno too much on that. But they think humans dislike of incest seems to be a genetic failsafe that's hardwired into most people's head.


The fact that it's been definitely proven there are homosexual animals pretty much gives credibility that homosexuality is natural. In fact there are species of animals in which there are a larger percentage of homosexual members than in humans(e.g. 44% of Galah Cockatoos are homosexual in comparison to 10% of the human population as a whole being homosexual. In the USA alone only 3-4% of the USA population are homosexual.)

I've already gave my take on incest in my other reply to you.haha.
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QuasimodoSunday wrote:

The fact that it's been definitely proven there are homosexual animals pretty much gives credibility that homosexuality is natural. In fact there are species of animals in which there are a larger percentage of homosexual members than in humans(e.g. 44% of Galah Cockatoos are homosexual in comparison to 10% of the human population as a whole being homosexual. In the USA alone only 3-4% of the USA population are homosexual.)

I've already gave my take on incest in my other reply to you.haha.


yeap, homosexuality is present in many animals, so i assume it's genetic in them. So why is it a big deal. But as much as 10% of the worlds population is homosexual. So as far as I'm concerned its natural.
Posted 5/16/09
Even it was to save my own life i could not eat another person at all, I would rather I die than do that I really would.
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