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Cannibalism, It's part of human nature
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Posted 1/15/10

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As an Anthropology major myself, I've been exposed to alot of weird theories and studies about the innate human nature.Yet most of those concepts make sense. And this concept of "Survival Cannibalism" is no exception.

Most people who don't study science or Anthropology are so simple minded when it comes to nature. I even heard a few ignorant people claiming that cannibalism, "isn't natural" yet are complete oblivious to the blatant evidence of cannibalism in nature. The same with concepts like "homosexuality" or "Incest"

Of course one must always be aware of the adage that says "Just because something is naturallu inherent doesn't mean that is can be justified."

It's interesting that nature can be so unusual at times, huh?


Well it does make logical sense, correct, humans being social animals, are usually gathered together, and since humans are carnivores, and again are usually gathered in groups, it makes perfect sense, that if the normal food supply runs out, you can consume your fellow humans, as they too as made of meat. So it makes logical sense that cannibalism would be a survival instinct. I mean a starving wolf would attack a fellow wolf given the right conditions. If you have to you have to right ? As for incest, i fail to see the problem with incest, and homosexuality is present in other animals throughout "nature". Actually cannibalism is a common ecological interaction in the animal kingdom and has been recorded for more than 1500 species. So its perfectly normal and common in nature.


canabalism, incest, ect. being characterized as "normal" and "common" depends on yur definition of normal and common. Throughout human societies, the "norms" and "commons" change from culture to culture, time from time. (im going to edit my previous post, but for now)-in most societies if not all, canabalism/incest is not the normal means of attaining food and sex.Its usually a last resort, mental issue, or some ritual (for incest- means of keeping wealth, keeping other stuff in the family, lack of mates, ninjutsu, ect.)

I honestly cant imagine a society where hunting and eating your fellow man is a norm and a main way of attaining meat. Societies wouldn't function very long.Murder would cease to exists.Same with incests, when other mates r attainable, most simply wouldnt settle with a sibling they have lived with their entire life. I think the examples of incest and canabalism in human societies r an exception to the rule, not the rule its self.Outside of rituals, survival, and self interest, this shit just isnt done under any "normal/common" circumstances. peace over war
It's also rather interesting to study real cannibalism among animals. As we can see, although cannibalism is more commonly seen among the insect, arachnid, and the reptilian species. The act of cannibalizing among mammals and primates were done solely in order to secure resources.




Like sexual cannibalism among insects for example, when after mating one mate eats the other.

But survival cannibalism, any species will do that if driven to it. Man, cats, dogs, snakes, hell some species will even self cannibalize if driven to it.
Posted 1/15/10 , edited 1/15/10

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Incest :

Incest is incest, if you want to have a relationship with your sister or cousin, go for it, if you love her / him and want a family but don't want a genetically mutant baby, adopt a kid, problem solved. Its no big deal, besides, if you trace human history back far enough, 2 + million years, were all related by blood, we all came from the same ancestors(this also hold true if you believe in adam + eve, we are all decendants of them right). So if you want to get technical, its incest no matter who you are with, as we are all related, and if you continue to trace it back, you'll find your related to your neighbors dog or cat, or the bacterial in yours or anyone else's mouth. We all came from the same first protocell after all, but that's another topic, but my point is, even if you have sex with a dog or horse or a stranger, its still incest if you trace it back far enough. So leave it be, if we want to have relations with our known family, so what, let them. Who cares, not going to cause you or me any physical and / or mental ailments now is it ? I'm not going to get aids because my cousin decided to sleep with my other cousin. So why bother caring ?
No. The fact that incestuous procreation will give birth to more offspring with birth defects, is a sure sign of natural selection does not favorite the practice of incest among certain animal species. Who with a particular social sexual behaviors can lead to the incestuous offspring to mutate and loose their ability to procreate with their own kinds.

And guess what, we humans are one of those animal species that don't get any benefit from incestuous sexual procreation. But I guees some of us just got too lazy at trying to be more social, and decided to get "creative" with whatever that's available.
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Posted 1/16/10

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Incest :

Incest is incest, if you want to have a relationship with your sister or cousin, go for it, if you love her / him and want a family but don't want a genetically mutant baby, adopt a kid, problem solved. Its no big deal, besides, if you trace human history back far enough, 2 + million years, were all related by blood, we all came from the same ancestors(this also hold true if you believe in adam + eve, we are all decendants of them right). So if you want to get technical, its incest no matter who you are with, as we are all related, and if you continue to trace it back, you'll find your related to your neighbors dog or cat, or the bacterial in yours or anyone else's mouth. We all came from the same first protocell after all, but that's another topic, but my point is, even if you have sex with a dog or horse or a stranger, its still incest if you trace it back far enough. So leave it be, if we want to have relations with our known family, so what, let them. Who cares, not going to cause you or me any physical and / or mental ailments now is it ? I'm not going to get aids because my cousin decided to sleep with my other cousin. So why bother caring ?



No. The fact that incestuous procreation will give birth to more offspring with birth defects, is a sure sign of natural selection does not favorite the practice of incest among certain animal species. Who with a particular social sexual behaviors can lead to the incestuous offspring to mutate and loose their ability to procreate with their own kinds.

And guess what, we humans are one of those animal species that don't get any benefit from incestuous sexual procreation. But I guees some of us just got too lazy at trying to be more social, and decided to get "creative" with whatever that's available.


No, not quite, as more and more humans appeared, their genetic diversity increased and it became less and less of a problem remember at one point in human history, humans and chimps were able to cross breed.

Protoman and Protochimp were close enough genetically to cross breed. But as more humans and more chimps came to be, genetic diversity increased and they were no longer able to do that, as early scientists found out when they tried to create Chumans and Humanzees
and it didn't work.

But technically all life on earth came from that same first cell, so we are all descendants of it, thus all life on earth is related because of that first cell we all came from, and incest is sex with someone you are related to. However earths biodiversity is huge, so genetically mutant kids is not an issue.

Human genetic diversity is wide enough that even tho we are all related to everyone else when we have sex with someone who is not closely genetically related ( mom, dad, sis, bro, cousin) its not a problem. Human DNA is like 99% the same between all humans. its varies tho because of environmental things like sun, cold, wind, water effecting early mans ability to survive so he would get new traits to combat his harsh environment. These new traits that differ between areas are what causes biodiversity. That biodiversity is what prevents all human babies from being retarded.
Posted 1/17/10
I'd only eat someone under the following circumstances (all have to be active):

1. No other source of food.
2. body dead
3. body warm
4. ...with a nice Chianti, and some fava beans... ~fkfkfkfkfk~ (joke from Hannibal Lecter)
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:/ Uh...I don't know...Seems gross...But MAYBE for desperate measures...MAYBE..
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Lol...
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That's ridiculous. I'll never will result to canabilsm, the body is god tempo and is wrong!
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That's ridiculous. I'll never will result to canabilsm, the body is god tempo and is wrong!


When you are half starved, and surrounded by perfectly edible meat, I am sure you will give in. It is easy for you to say that as you have not, and probably will never, face such conditions which would create the desperation needed to make us forsake these 'moral' of ours and consume flesh.
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:/ Uh...I don't know...Seems gross...But MAYBE for desperate measures...MAYBE..


Why is the flesh of human sacred compared to the flesh of swine, cows, poultry, or of any beast?
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Wonkaloo wrote:

:/ Uh...I don't know...Seems gross...But MAYBE for desperate measures...MAYBE..


Why is the flesh of human sacred compared to the flesh of swine, cows, poultry, or of any beast?


Cause we lived around the person, got to know them, spent time with them? If you had a pet dog and it died and you were starving you'd be hard pressed to eat it. However if you didn't know the dog it'd be easier because there's no emotional attachment. Same with humans. And screw morals. They mean nothing to anyone if the person is dead. I'd rather forsake my morals for a while and be alive then dead with my morals.
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orangeflute wrote:


Wonkaloo wrote:

:/ Uh...I don't know...Seems gross...But MAYBE for desperate measures...MAYBE..


Why is the flesh of human sacred compared to the flesh of swine, cows, poultry, or of any beast?


Cause we lived around the person, got to know them, spent time with them? If you had a pet dog and it died and you were starving you'd be hard pressed to eat it. However if you didn't know the dog it'd be easier because there's no emotional attachment. Same with humans. And screw morals. They mean nothing to anyone if the person is dead. I'd rather forsake my morals for a while and be alive then dead with my morals.


Actually, I wouldn't, it was either my life of theirs, and if they didn't want to take the opportunity to continue living and back-stab me, I may as well kill them for both their foolish loyalty and my sustained survival.
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Well it may have been but mad cow virus would indicate we learned what happens to people who eat others. Not too hard to understand is it. The same for people way back when Pork was eaten disease. They did not understand why buy it killed
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Well it may have been but mad cow virus would indicate we learned what happens to people who eat others. Not too hard to understand is it. The same for people way back when Pork was eaten disease. They did not understand why buy it killed


The Aztec consumed the flesh of other humans, and their civilisation turned up alright. Indeed, if their civilisation was not in the delusion that some bearded, pale-faced fella was a God, they probably would have lasted a little longer.
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I did some quick research apparently the Aztec did some cabalism but not very mush and was blown out of portion Spanish seeing this. (Wikipedia)
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tarakelly wrote:

I did some quick research apparently the Aztec did some cabalism but not very mush and was blown out of portion Spanish seeing this. (Wikipedia)


They still consumed flesh.

And, while consuming flesh, they still created a kickass calender and kept their streets cleaner than the refuse heap of Toledo and Madrid.
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