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Posted 5/19/09
economy as weall know is very poor right this moment but so I'd the health of our planet so wich should come first ? Well in my opinion global crisis such as global warming polar caps melting us cutting down trees such be our number one concern why because with out the planet resources there wouldn't even be an economy to rely on get the picture If u like this topic check out this group and if its your kind of group as for a group join request the groups name is intellectual group
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Posted 5/19/09
The economy comes first. It’s a short term goal. Why deal with the needs of tomorrow when you haven’t even dealt with the needs of today? But, when the economy is strong we can afford to do more for the environment.
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Posted 5/19/09
Planet comes first, I find the healthy planet would help the economy for the long term but not vice versa.
Perhaps, we need to live, so when there's no alternative way but to break the health of planet , we have no choice but do it and just as the needs without exceeding.
Posted 5/19/09
both all u need to do is to get the backs to drope the lones and re start but thay whont its just greed
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Posted 5/19/09
Economy. Many of the eco stuff is lies (like global warming). What should be regulated is water pollution and gas pollution in crowded cities, which is regulated fairly well.
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Id say you could help to brighten both at the same time. The "green energy" movement that is gaining ground in America (at least in some circles, many still look to fossil fuels because of the monetary aspects of it) could be used not only to bolster the economy by providing many people with jobs at wind turbine manufacturers and also other energy generating firms (such as geothermal, tidal, solar and hydroelectric) but people will also be needed to maintain these systems, build the infrastructure, and run them once they are in place. These thousands upon thousands of additional jobs would serve to lower the unemployment rate and also create an influx of capital into our economy from people who were once on the verge of losing their homes spending money again both on necessities like paying their mortgages, other bills and buying groceries; but also buying more disposable income related items like entertainment, leisure, and other products of the sort. I respectfully disagree that "most of the eco stuff are lies" While I dont believe that we are the sole reason for the climate change that our planet is going through (as we are on the tail end of an ice age and these hot and cold periods have been found to be cyclical throughout the geologic record) but id say we are definitely contributing to it.
Posted 5/19/09
Note: Playing devil's advocate

Isn't cool that Blockbuster action movies do a lot of pyrotechnics and explosions?

Yes, we can create computer graphic images of an explosion.. BUT... how much real it is, the better.

Thus, they don't realize that they also contribute to global warming,

... but think how much money they make per week.



What? $54 million in 1 week?!!! What? $87 million in just 3 days after it was recently opened?!!
Let's blow up three buildings and a gas station in one go this time! Put those carnage on film.

WHAM!! See how much money from people we will get next time. $$$$$ katching katching.
Posted 5/19/09
The planet should come first, with out the planet there would be no economy to worry about. God put us here to take care of the planet, he is not going to come down and fix all the problems that we do cause here, that is our job to do so.
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Posted 5/19/09 , edited 5/19/09

digs wrote:

Economy. Many of the eco stuff is lies (like global warming). What should be regulated is water pollution and gas pollution in crowded cities, which is regulated fairly well.


When you say global warming is a lie, do you mean that it is not occurring, or that humans aren't the ones causing it?

I do agree that we should fix the economy first, since we can't help the environment if we don't have the money to do so.
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Posted 5/19/09

Cuddlebuns wrote:


digs wrote:

Economy. Many of the eco stuff is lies (like global warming). What should be regulated is water pollution and gas pollution in crowded cities, which is regulated fairly well.


When you say global warming is a lie, do you mean that it is not occurring, or that humans aren't the ones causing it?

I do agree that we should fix the economy first, since we can't help the environment if we don't have the money to do so.


Well, somewhat of both. Right now the polar ice caps are actually growing and the global temperature has dropped for the past two years, it's all due to the solar cycle. And as for anthropogenic warming (man made) I believe that is a lie too, especially considering that atmospheric CO2 has only risen by about 25 ppm, which is extremely small figure.

And you are right, we do need to fix the economy first because without the strong economy and funding we won't be able to move towards cheaper alternative fuels. I am may be against anthropogenic global warming, but I am not pro-pollution. I believe that it's important to reduce pollution for health reasons. I also support renewable energy because it will move us towards energy independence and we will never have to worry about it running out.
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Posted 5/20/09
Economy, provide jobs for the people who is in need, eradicate poverty, clear corruption.
Posted 5/20/09
planet duh. what's good about having money if you live on a planet that will inhabitable? =T
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Posted 5/20/09 , edited 5/20/09
I believe that the economy is droping due to increase of imports, delivery and transportation
and the fact that everyone is the world is slowly becoming more and more connected

what im saying is, we are only living a good life, because someone is living a bad life
im saying that the rich are rich because people are poor

and the things that seperate us are slowly going away

i make 10 australian dollars an hour, im just a student
a farmer in vietnam can make as little as 50cents an hour

my job is easier, safer, and with more pay
his job is harder, dirty and he gets less pay

now that the world is becoming more and more fair, our lifestyle is decreasing

our economy is going down because others are going up
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Posted 5/20/09

rikenstorm wrote:

economy as weall know is very poor right this moment but so I'd the health of our planet so wich should come first ? Well in my opinion global crisis such as global warming polar caps melting us cutting down trees such be our number one concern why because with out the planet resources there wouldn't even be an economy to rely on get the picture If u like this topic check out this group and if its your kind of group as for a group join request the groups name is intellectual group


All human behavior is economic behavior of a sort, and the idea that a strong economy and a healthy ecosystem are mutually exclusive is a rather simplistic view.

Take for instance the recent changes in the German economy in which a shifting to green industry such as solar power and various other projects has in recent years actually bolstered the economy while old industries such as the auto industry have started to fail. We are on the verge of a new age of green economies and you would do well to learn appropriate skills in order to capitalize on the huge wave of change that is on the way.

One of my personal favorites of the new age of green economic technology is the power system that I will be incorporating into my new house. A wind turbine powers an apparatus used to crack well water into hydrogen and oxygen both are then bottled also powered by the wind turbine. The hydrogen is then used to power the home when the wind dies down and can also be made to power a car/truck whatever.

The bottled oxygen is sold to whoever will need it regionally thereby easing burdens on the medical industry and and lowering the cost of metalworking slightly. In this model the only potential environmental damage is caused by the initial manufacture of the devices needed and with responsible manufacturing practices these are quite minimal.

Houses built in this fashion would would both create local jobs and lower the cost of living for its owner while lowering dependence of petrochemicals. Less time spent paying for the necessities = more free time for learning/arts and what I hope will eventually be a new Renaissance. These kinds of houses are only viable for low/med density populations however the principles are sound enough to be used in larger scale power generation.

It is certainly possible to be wealthy and environmentally responsible, it just takes a bit of simple wisdom and forethought.
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Posted 5/22/09
in the philippines we need to look into the problems in the environment because our economy depends on it greatly. we rely so much with the natural resources we have, which had since then, supported the livelihood of the Filipinos and our economy. Our products consist mainly of agricultural ones, one of our main livelihood is fishing... we really have to take care of the earth...so planet first before the economy... although i think they're interrelated... if one think of improving the latter, he'll also think of looking into and discovering the inconsistencies of the former...
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